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Glad to see I'm having a positive effect.



Label as you please, it makes no difference to me. I don't consider myself post-Zionist, and as far as I'm concerned that's all that really matters.
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So you propose we do what about internal disagreements? Ignore them? That they present a united front in support of terrorists like Hamas speaks volumes about them. But I'm not prepared to just...

The pot calling the kettle black... I specifically said I UNDERSTAND YOUR VIEWS NOW - and simply explained why I took from your posts what I did. I'm not accusing you of holding those views now that...

Again, that it has relatively less traction in Israel is quite likely, for the reasons you give. But I think that outside of Israel, among young, educated, secular/traditional Jews, this is pretty...

Reffo, I think you should at least be open to the possibility that your posts in that thread were capable of being interpreted in the manner that I understood them... Look at your post #69 which you...

The term 'war crime' applies to crimes committed in armed conflict generally, so yeah, it wasn't actually applicable to the uprooting of the settlements.

Having said that, this is a good example....

To clarify, I'm talking about the diaspora (hence my use of the words 'around the world'). Of course, how Israelis choose to vote is a matter entirely for them and they are the ones directly affected...

We'll have to agree to disagree as to your evaluation of me.

I don't see myself bending over backward for the Palestinians, I just happen to think that in navigating through this conflict Israel...

Thanks for making this analogy and demonstrating why your 'solution' is unacceptable. The hornets (i.e. the ones with the stings) are not the whole population of Gaza. You want Israeli soldiers to go...

I wouldn't go quite so far. We agree on fundamentals - re Israel's right to exist, Zionism, etc. That's not to be undervalued. On the other hand, we do sharply diverge when it comes to our opinions...

As you all probably know, the Palestinians are trying again at the UN this month. Unlike last year, where they sought admission as a member state (which would require approval by the Security...

No that's not what I meant. We weren't 'speaking the same language'. It's a bit of a futile exercise, we don't have a common vocabulary for speaking to each other. In my opinion (which you're at...

I'll believe it when I see it.

I wouldn't say we covered it from every angle. I'd say we spoke past each other over several days until the futility of the situation led to so much irritation that we stopped. At least that's how I...

Seems like many people share your sentiment, Aliyah...



http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/26/us-israel-election-idUSBRE89P0IG20121026

By the way, from a political strategy perspective this is a big success for Bibi. Likud and YB have been negotiating for months - they're organised to make this transition and have worked out the...

Barak is toxic. The left should not welcome him back. He should be made to retire from political life, that man has nothing to offer and everyone knows he's just an opportunist. It's more likely he...

This is very very very positive news.

I don't like the Likud or YB particularly, in fact I would never vote for either. But the fact of the matter is that Israel's political landscape is too...

An unconditional withdrawal is the worst possible outcome. I can't imagine Israel repeating that stupidity. Any creation of a Palestinian state must be negotiated on reasonable terms. But for that,...

That's a fair point. I guess a lot of these NGOs do try to get regular people involved, I remember being told that Btselem sometimes does tours of the territories. I guess, though, that once they...

Just to be clear, the reason I've suggested we discuss the human rights situation of Palestinian in the territories is because this is something we never do. If you look through this forum, how many...

I've been looking through some of the annual reports of the human rights organisations on Israel and the Territories and, to be honest, it seems to me like they do spend quite a lot of time...

By "being there" I don't just mean being in the territories. You can live in the territories and probably never see anything more than a token Palestinian up close, just like you can like in Tel-Aviv...

One thing that I find very interesting about all this is how little first-hand knowledge most Israelis have of the situation in the territories. I mean, given how passionate leftists and rightists...

I think you've hit the nail on the head here. What I see a lot of the time is conscious, deliberate self-censorship on these issues. It's evident, imo, in some of the comments made by Reffo and bara....