Greetings from Idiot America

[Mediocrates]

http://templeofpolemic.proboards42.c...ead=1130126466

also

http://www.aboyandhiscomputer.com/Gr...t_America.html

From news article:

Welcome to Idiot America.

LET'S TAKE A TOUR, shall we? For the sake of time, we'll just cover the last year or so. A federally funded abstinence program suggests that HIV can be transmitted through tears. An Alabama legislator proposes a bill to ban all books by gay authors. The Texas House passes a bill banning suggestive cheerleading. And nobody laughs at any of it, or even points out that, in the latter case, having Texas ban suggestive cheerleading is like having Nebraska ban corn. James Dobson, a prominent conservative Christian spokesman, compares the Supreme Court to the Ku Klux Klan. Pat Robertson, another prominent conservative preacher, says that federal judges are a more serious threat to the country than is Al Qaeda and, apparently taking his text from the Book of Gambino, later sermonizes that the United States should get with it and snuff the democratically elected president of Venezuela.

The Congress of the United States intervenes to extend into a televised spectacle the prolonged death of a woman in Florida. The majority leader of the Senate, a physician, pronounces a diagnosis based on heavily edited videotape. The majority leader of the House of Representatives argues against cutting-edge research into the use of human stem cells by saying that "an embryo is a person. . . . We were all at one time embryos ourselves. So was Abraham. So was Muhammad. So was Jesus of Nazareth." Nobody laughs at him or points out that the same could be said of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or whoever invented the baby-back rib.

And, finally, in August, the cover of Time —for almost a century the dyspeptic voice of the American establishment—clears its throat, hems and haws and hacks like a headmaster gagging on his sherry, and asks, quite seriously: "Does God have a place in science class?"

Fights over evolution—and its faddish new camouflage, intelligent design, a pseudoscience that posits without proof or method that science is inadequate to explain existence and that supernatural causes must be considered—roil up school districts across the country. The president of the United States announces that he believes ID ought to be taught in the public schools on an equal footing with the theory of evolution. And in Dover, Pennsylvania, during one of these many controversies, a pastor named Ray Mummert delivers the line that both ends our tour and, in every real sense, sums it up:

"We've been attacked," he says, "by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture."

And there it is.

Idiot America is not the place where people say silly things. It's not the place where people believe in silly things. It is not the place where people go to profit from the fact that people believe in silly things. Idiot America is not even those people who believe that Adam named the dinosaurs. Those people pay attention. They take notes. They take the time and the considerable mental effort to construct a worldview that is round and complete.

The rise of Idiot America is essentially a war on expertise. It's not so much antimodernism or the distrust of intellectual elites that Richard Hofstadter deftly teased out of the national DNA forty years ago. Both of those things are part of it. However, the rise of Idiot America today represents—for profit mainly, but also, and more cynically, for political advantage and in the pursuit of power—the breakdown of a consensus that the pursuit of knowledge is a good. It also represents the ascendancy of the notion that the people whom we should trust the least are the people who best know what they're talking about. In the new media age, everybody is a historian, or a preacher, or a scientist, or a sage. And if everyone is an expert, then nobody is, and the worst thing you can be in a society where everybody is an expert is, well, an actual expert.

Read the rest of this long piece - it's will go down in history as a great essay - probably on the same level as the essays of Jacques Barzun.

[ihatearabs]

k well your all terrorist sons of bitches in my point of view. were over there helping your in asses out and you guys try to riot and and are anti american? you should be kissing our asses.. if we left sadaam would obviously not come back, but some one else would take over because you guys are pussies and are too busy in praying 6 times a day to learn to fight...

also when those political cartoons were made, they were intended to say not only that people from the middle east(arabs) are terrorists, but also to criticize the violence over there... so what do you do when these are publicized? blow more things up! and riot! civilized people would have said something about it, and taken the writer/newspaper editor to court and sued his ... but yet again were dealing with rag heads...


and you are cowards... your former "leader" sadaam was a pussy.. during desert storm when the US kicked his out of kuwait the pussy started blowing up his own oil rigs... yeah...

plus if it wasnt for the United State's help in past years this war would be a big joke. you know why? because the United states tried to help you all out by armoring you all with the same equipment and technology as our army, which is the most advanced in the world.. so, if we hadnt tried to protect your , yet again, and supplied you with weapons you would be using stones, unreliable ak-47's, and of course, your specialties... suicide bombing....

and after calling you terrorists and pussies your saying to yourself "this guys a skinhead redneck american". well your wrong. first of all you arabic bastards cant even begin to criticize our nation because we would rape you anally.. check anything that is positive for a nation and ill bet my money that it beats yours. and you ARE TERRORISTS!

lets check out just three of the many dictorial leaderships in the middle east where arabs are dominant.....


yassir arafat, ossama bin laden , and of course the piece of , sadaam husein.


oh and just one parting gift....



http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7144/rag6pa.th.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1074/head6ni.th.jpg

[Hamsun]

ihatearabs:
God! I have rarely read sentiments as DUMB as yours! Wow, you really fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down! Go die somewhere by yourself, ok?

[Doxxs]

http://templeofpolemic.proboards42.c...ead=1130126466

also

http://www.aboyandhiscomputer.com/Gr...t_America.html

From news article:

Welcome to Idiot America.

LET'S TAKE A TOUR, shall we? For the sake of time, we'll just cover the last year or so. A federally funded abstinence program suggests that HIV can be transmitted through tears. An Alabama legislator proposes a bill to ban all books by gay authors. The Texas House passes a bill banning suggestive cheerleading. And nobody laughs at any of it, or even points out that, in the latter case, having Texas ban suggestive cheerleading is like having Nebraska ban corn. James Dobson, a prominent conservative Christian spokesman, compares the Supreme Court to the Ku Klux Klan. Pat Robertson, another prominent conservative preacher, says that federal judges are a more serious threat to the country than is Al Qaeda and, apparently taking his text from the Book of Gambino, later sermonizes that the United States should get with it and snuff the democratically elected president of Venezuela.

The Congress of the United States intervenes to extend into a televised spectacle the prolonged death of a woman in Florida. The majority leader of the Senate, a physician, pronounces a diagnosis based on heavily edited videotape. The majority leader of the House of Representatives argues against cutting-edge research into the use of human stem cells by saying that "an embryo is a person. . . . We were all at one time embryos ourselves. So was Abraham. So was Muhammad. So was Jesus of Nazareth." Nobody laughs at him or points out that the same could be said of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or whoever invented the baby-back rib.

And, finally, in August, the cover of Time —for almost a century the dyspeptic voice of the American establishment—clears its throat, hems and haws and hacks like a headmaster gagging on his sherry, and asks, quite seriously: "Does God have a place in science class?"

Fights over evolution—and its faddish new camouflage, intelligent design, a pseudoscience that posits without proof or method that science is inadequate to explain existence and that supernatural causes must be considered—roil up school districts across the country. The president of the United States announces that he believes ID ought to be taught in the public schools on an equal footing with the theory of evolution. And in Dover, Pennsylvania, during one of these many controversies, a pastor named Ray Mummert delivers the line that both ends our tour and, in every real sense, sums it up:

"We've been attacked," he says, "by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture."

And there it is.

Idiot America is not the place where people say silly things. It's not the place where people believe in silly things. It is not the place where people go to profit from the fact that people believe in silly things. Idiot America is not even those people who believe that Adam named the dinosaurs. Those people pay attention. They take notes. They take the time and the considerable mental effort to construct a worldview that is round and complete.

The rise of Idiot America is essentially a war on expertise. It's not so much antimodernism or the distrust of intellectual elites that Richard Hofstadter deftly teased out of the national DNA forty years ago. Both of those things are part of it. However, the rise of Idiot America today represents—for profit mainly, but also, and more cynically, for political advantage and in the pursuit of power—the breakdown of a consensus that the pursuit of knowledge is a good. It also represents the ascendancy of the notion that the people whom we should trust the least are the people who best know what they're talking about. In the new media age, everybody is a historian, or a preacher, or a scientist, or a sage. And if everyone is an expert, then nobody is, and the worst thing you can be in a society where everybody is an expert is, well, an actual expert.

Read the rest of this long piece - it's will go down in history as a great essay - probably on the same level as the essays of Jacques Barzun.

As an American and an internet forumer I have read about 1 billion "I hate America", "Americans are idiots" etc threads and at this point man I have to tell ya the effect is gone. My reaction amounts to shoulder shrug and a muttered "so another foriegner hates us."

I don't know if your intent was to vent or to just insult but the latter I think is losing it's potency due to many diatribes of this ilk out of Europe and the Mid east.

/shrugs shoulders

[Zlatorog]

I will try to explain some irrelevant things, such as, why the guy who killed the dragon died in Lod.

Handschars fought in Croatia and Hungary, the so called Soviet Muslims fought in Slovenia and Italy. Hungary of Austria was at first the most totalitarian of all the neighbouring states. Gathering and voting for independence (Wilson) was punishable by death. So the Jews who emigrated to Israel in winter 1948 saw the Hungarian communists trash the so called rich people property in the neighbouring 'state' (1915), followed by similar visits of anti-communists; all of this is rather unknown. Those who had German surnames changed them to Serb ones (French, US support). The area was occupied by Germany 1941, a week later they gave it to the Hungarians and was completely isolated from all sides. It was liberated by the partisans and the British Air Force. Pumpkin land (Halloween, salad oil, Krampus & Kurent, Borovo Gostuvanje).

Some Slovenes arrived in small groups in the sixth century. Borovo Gostuvanje is Roman, but the origin of Kurent is unknown (the first one is the oldest bride for a day married to a pine tree). Roman / Illyrian / Celtic population were called clumsy giants, later Greeks. They knew golem, but the meaning was different than in central and eastern Europe. Most agree it's Biblical, except here it could have spread among the old settlers who traded with Italy, the blacksmiths...

The Gauls and Arabs allegedly invented different soaps, but Slovenes were busy with deep plough farming (horses, unusual) on land with caves. They knew spas, but their version of Hades was probably the unknown Temava (Darkness). Most of the rivers disappear here, so does an entire lake (Witch Ursula, Underwater Man). They thought people should join the righteous in heaven and Kresnik (bonfires) who should have been replaced by Georgius (farmer) of Lydda (just died there), remained irrelevant (two spring holidays, bonfires and Jurij). Christianity must have come from the coast (Jason kills the dragon /deformed hiding creature so clumsy it causes floods, not true, but in the rest of Europe that happens in the late 11th century). They put stones on snake pits and sometimes destroyed such stones and threw them on the field (I have no idea why some tourists are looking for holy stones). Sometimes big stones were put around the linden tree. But it's obvious that people could sit on them.

None of this had any meaning elsewhere, like in a German town (unknown Christmas tree), except during festivals - most were about going to another village to get or share gifts on holidays, while some are entertainment (once upon a time just one cinema in Pumpkin land).

The defence against the Ottoman raiders began in 1408. Pumpkin land was destroyed twenty times, so the Germans arrived rather fast and the Slovenes kept to themselves, if they had to, they were 'walking in the Germans' (makes no sense, but that was the expression). There were some problems with Venice and other landlords, so the emperial army put down peasant uprisings and the last inteligentia was removed during the protestant wars. When the 'big powers' were trying to decide wether Serbia should fight with Austria or Russia, Russia intensified their panslavism (false mythology, Orthodoxy legacy, cities destroyed by Ivan Grozny) and there were first confrontations between the Croats and the Serbs (Vienna and Venice devide and rule). There was even a small Slovenian / Serb dispute after the Slovenian / Carinthian confrontation 1918 (the Germans were spared by the son of an Apache butcher, some Germanization statistics, Italian truck drivers, no voting in the second zone, monarchy fobia). Italy occupied free Trieste and the whole of Friuli and Istria, Croatia got Dalmatia, but Ustashe gave that back to Mussolini 1940, while they murdered all Slovenes who refused to join their army. Slovenes were sent to Italian jails 1918, everything was destroyed, so there were priests running around with the Hagganah (1944), starved to death in the Italian concentration camps, some German speaking bishop intervened to save Arbe prisoners, but never mind, he must have been a Nazi and the Italians brava gente.

[Reamed]

Yeppers, us 'merkins shore am stupid. We're stupid because we give BILLIONS OF DOLLARS a year to ungrateful countries while kids go hungry in ours. Ayup, we're complete boneheads on that one. Would someone explain that one to me? I mean, it just seems that every time we pony up for some little jerkwater hole of a country, they buy more tanks to oppress THEIR people with. Yups, that's pretty dumb, all right. Perhaps we should stop. I'd suggest that to my stupid Congressman but I'm almost positive that a little tiny bit of that money goes right into my stupid Congressmans stupid Swiss bank account. See? I knew there was a reason my leaders would do something as stupid as give my money to undeserving countries.
Maybe I should try to replace my stupid Congressman. With, y'know, someone less stupid.
Ned

[Reamed]

=) ;]

[Reamed]

Oops, the thing double posted. Would someone be kind enough to remove one of these? Theng yew.

Ned

[Arjunn]

there are some american policies i like and some i done like

a few of the ones i dont like are

1 severe restrictions on stem cell research

2 teaching of intelligent design!

"Fights over evolution—and its faddish new camouflage, intelligent design, a pseudoscience that posits without proof or method that science is inadequate to explain existence and that supernatural causes must be considered—roil up school districts across the country. The president of the United States announces that he believes ID ought to be taught in the public schools on an equal footing with the theory of evolution. And in Dover, Pennsylvania, during one of these many controversies, a pastor named Ray Mummert delivers the line that both ends our tour and, in every real sense, sums it up:

"We've been attacked," he says, "by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture." "

thats eaxctly what it is... some stupid religious theory formulated by stupid religion fundamentalists that poisons the mind of young children! these fundamentalist religious guys aint any different from osama or mullah omar!. its high time that americans take religion out of classrooms and politics

this SOOOOO reminds me of the scientists burnt on the stake when they said that the earth is a globe/orbits the sun

stupid idiots

[Reffo]

Doxxs

Don't get your knickers in a knot, have you clicked on the links and looked who wrote this? If not, you'll find that it was an American and it was published in an American magazine:

by Charles P. Pierce, as originally published in Esquire Magazine, 11/1/05

And the fact that someone chose to re-post it on this forum doesn't mean anything other than that he would like it to be the subject of a discussion. After all, that's what happens in forums.

[Mediocrates]

It's not "I hate America" It's "I hate stupid ideological wingnuts who live here". We live in an era where thinking, progress, knowledge, expertise itself are challenged. The internet is a great example of that. Now everyone is an expert on everything.

[RonPrice]

I wrote this piece today, so impressed was I by Jacques Barzun. I tried to place his life and ideas in a personal perspective, a perspective of my own values and beliefs.
________________________
JACQUES

In 1937 Jacques Barzun, then Professor of History at Columbia, published Race, A Study in Modern Superstition, not in the spirit of a tract for the times but as a part of a deep scrutiny of modern intellectual history. He surveyed notions of this superstition during the 150 years since the Revolution of 1789. What he found was disturbing. “The race question,” he wrote, “appears a much bigger affair than a trumped-up excuse for local persecution. It becomes rather a mode of thought endemic in Western civilization. It defaces every type of mental activity — history, art, politics, science and social reform.” Barzun found himself grappling, in this and later books, with philosophies that were then reaching their dark, perverted nadir in Nazi Germany. His writing and his life bore the marks of a deep civility and the pervasive imprint of a deeply civilized mind. In 1937 Barzun helped launch “Humanities A,” now famously known as “Literature Humanities” aimed at helping to produce educated men and women in the arts not just trained people for the professions. That same year, 1937, the Baha’is launched their first organized teaching Plan.-Ron Price with thanks to Thomas Vinciguerra, “Living Legacies,” Columbia College Today, January 2006.

You had no idea, Jacques, of that
much bigger affair also marked by
a deep civility and deeply civilized
minds then driving with increasing
force and new consecration its roots
deeper & deeper into American soil.

The inheritors, Jacques, of a fresh grace,
an ever-varying splendour deriving from
wisdom and the power of thought, were
and are, like yourself, enjoying new and
wonderful configurations, dazzling rays
of a strange, a heavenly power, godlike
impulses radiating from the minds of men.

Those were early days, Jacques,
the initial stage in the unfoldment
of a vision and a destiny: ours
and yours, Jacques, preliminary
tasks to help my rising generation
to labour and to fulfill, with the loins
of our endeavour, in the arena of service,
whatever the obstacles, the responsibilities.1

1 Shoghi Effendi, “Letter to American Baha’is: June 4th 1937,” Messages To America: 1932-1946, Wilmette, 1947, p.10.

Ron Price
July 23rd 2006.

[AppleEater]

It's not "I hate America" It's "I hate stupid ideological wingnuts who live here". We live in an era where thinking, progress, knowledge, expertise itself are challenged. The internet is a great example of that. Now everyone is an expert on everything.

You might want to take a look in the mirror.

[ofelas]

these fundamentalist religious guys aint any different from osama or mullah omar!.

Last time I checked, Jerry Falwell or Billy Graham hadn't bombed any civilians.

Your comparision is out of context, to say the least.

[Angel]

k well your all terrorist sons of bitches in my point of view. were over there helping your in asses out and you guys try to riot and and are anti american? you should be kissing our asses.. if we left sadaam would obviously not come back, but some one else would take over because you guys are pussies and are too busy in praying 6 times a day to learn to fight...

also when those political cartoons were made, they were intended to say not only that people from the middle east(arabs) are terrorists, but also to criticize the violence over there... so what do you do when these are publicized? blow more things up! and riot! civilized people would have said something about it, and taken the writer/newspaper editor to court and sued his ... but yet again were dealing with rag heads...


and you are cowards... your former "leader" sadaam was a pussy.. during desert storm when the US kicked his out of kuwait the pussy started blowing up his own oil rigs... yeah...

plus if it wasnt for the United State's help in past years this war would be a big joke. you know why? because the United states tried to help you all out by armoring you all with the same equipment and technology as our army, which is the most advanced in the world.. so, if we hadnt tried to protect your , yet again, and supplied you with weapons you would be using stones, unreliable ak-47's, and of course, your specialties... suicide bombing....

and after calling you terrorists and pussies your saying to yourself "this guys a skinhead redneck american". well your wrong. first of all you arabic bastards cant even begin to criticize our nation because we would rape you anally.. check anything that is positive for a nation and ill bet my money that it beats yours. and you ARE TERRORISTS!

lets check out just three of the many dictorial leaderships in the middle east where arabs are dominant.....


yassir arafat, ossama bin laden , and of course the piece of , sadaam husein.


oh and just one parting gift....



http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7144/rag6pa.th.jpg


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1074/head6ni.th.jpg

This is great. Tell it the way it is.