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    Larisa Trembovler's Blog

    This one's for Russian speakers.

    http://larissat.livejournal.com/

    Larisa Trembovler is the wife of Yigal Amir, one of the most noble Jewish heros, who sacrificed his life for his country and people by getting rid of a traitorous Israeli politician Itzhak Rabin. As such he deserves a place in history amonst other Jewish heros, like Zeev Jabotinsky, Joseph Trumpeldor, Menachem Begin, and the heros of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

    Unfortunately, the blog is written only in Russian. But here are some Hebrew sites that support Yigal Amir and his cause of fulfilling his citizen's duty:

    http://www.yigalamir.co.il/
    http://www.yigal-amir.com/

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    []Larisa Trembovler is the wife of Yigal Amir,[/b]

    Durochka.


    one of the most noble Jewish heros, who sacrificed his life for his country and people by getting rid of a traitorous Israeli politician Itzhak Rabin. As such he deserves a place in history amonst other Jewish heros, like Zeev Jabotinsky, Joseph Trumpeldor, Menachem Begin, and the


    Itzhak Rabin did more for Israel then Joseph Trumpeldor and Menachem Begin combined. I hope you are really speaking for yourself especially when you have an urge to kill another Jew.

    heros of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

    And why did you bring this up here exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mil
    Itzhak Rabin did more for Israel then Joseph Trumpeldor and Menachem Begin combined. I hope you are really speaking for yourself especially when you have an urge to kill another Jew.
    I wouldn't condemn someone killing a former Nazi collaborator. Rabin was no different. Him being Jew is not an issue here. And what exactly has he done for Israel? Ran away from the battlefield? Ordered shooting of Jewish patriots on Altalena? Supported Ben-Gurion's cowardly collaboration with the British?

    heros of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising.

    And why did you bring this up here exactly?
    Because Yigal Amir's self-sacrifice is no less heroic.

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    Posted by KettleWhistle:

    I wouldn't condemn someone killing a former Nazi collaborator.

    Well, to me Liberman sounds like the second coming of Vladimir Vulfovich. Go figure.

    Rabin was a Nazi colloborator?

    Rabin was no different. Him being Jew is not an issue here. And what exactly has he done for Israel?

    Say Again?


    Ran away from the battlefield? Ordered shooting of Jewish patriots on Altalena? Supported Ben-Gurion's cowardly collaboration with the British?

    Cowardly? Whatever suites you.

    Because Yigal Amir's self-sacrifice is no less heroic.

    Excuse me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yigal Amir is more heroic then the fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto?!!!!!! I am sorry but my and your ideas of courage, ideals and principles are diametrically opposite.

    To all those brave Jews who were killed during the uprising I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR OUR BRAINWASHED POSTER KETTLE!!!!!

    SAD!!!!!



    Amir will rot in jail till hell freezes over!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mil
    Posted by KettleWhistle:

    I wouldn't condemn someone killing a former Nazi collaborator.

    Well, to me Liberman sounds like the second coming of Vladimir Vulfovich. Go figure.
    What does Lieberman have to do with this discussion?

    Rabin was a Nazi colloborator?

    Rabin was no different. Him being Jew is not an issue here. And what exactly has he done for Israel?

    Say Again?
    I said "no different" from a Nazi collaborator. He collaborated with our enemies, and should've gotten electric chair for it.

    Because Yigal Amir's self-sacrifice is no less heroic.

    Excuse me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yigal Amir is more heroic then the fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto?!!!!!! I am sorry but my and your ideas of courage, ideals and principles are diametrically opposite.
    I said "no less" heroic. He sacrificed himself for his people. It was a courageous act of civil duty and loaylty to his country and people.

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    Posted by Kettle:

    What does Lieberman have to do with this discussion?

    Why not? A hero of all brave Russian-kick-**ers, half of which don't even speak Hebrew.

    I said "no different" from a Nazi collaborator. He collaborated with our enemies, and should've gotten electric chair for it.

    Ah!!!! So, may be you should take a gun and go shoot some Arabs - Goldstein style. PLEASE DO!!!!!

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    Because Yigal Amir's self-sacrifice is no less heroic.

    Excuse me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yigal Amir is more heroic then the fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto?!!!!!! I am sorry but my and your ideas of courage, ideals and principles are diametrically opposite.

    I said "no less" heroic. He sacrificed himself for his people.


    For his people? I am "his" people. He did not sacrafice himself for me.

    It was a courageous act of civil duty and loaylty to his country and people.

    Since when did you start speaking for "all" Jews and especially "all" people of Israel? Next time, please, don't speak in my name without asking me first.

    The fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto fought for their dignity and freedom. To die free men fighting.

    Amir, a political assassin, killed a a democratically elected leader over a political cause. Don't you dare compare the Warsaw Ghetto to this heck Amir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mil
    Posted by Kettle:

    What does Lieberman have to do with this discussion?

    Why not? A hero of all brave Russian-kick-**ers, half of which don't even speak Hebrew.
    Again, what does it have to do with discussion about Yigal Amir and his wife's blog?

    Quote:
    Because Yigal Amir's self-sacrifice is no less heroic.

    Excuse me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yigal Amir is more heroic then the fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto?!!!!!! I am sorry but my and your ideas of courage, ideals and principles are diametrically opposite.

    I said "no less" heroic. He sacrificed himself for his people.


    For his people? I am "his" people. He did not sacrafice himself for me.
    Whether or not you realize it or want to admit it, he did.

    The fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto fought for their dignity and freedom. To die free men fighting.

    Amir, a political assassin, killed a a democratically elected leader over a political cause. Don't you dare compare the Warsaw Ghetto to this heck Amir.
    Cut down on rhetoric... him being "democratically elected" isn't the issue here. Hitler too was democratically elected. He was killed for commiting and act of treason. Yigal Amir sacrificed his life to rid Israel of a monster that was destroying the country, so that Jews can get back some of their dignity and regain our country's integrity.

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    Kettle, your lid is off. Do adjust. There's way too much steam going out.

    Yigal Amir is a murderer, plain simple. One can see him as a traitor to the state as well, as the murder of a prime minister is an act against the democratic nature of the state of Israel.

    Not to mention that the bastard had almost gotten Shimon Peres elected in 1996 on the "they killed Rabin!" hysteria wave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble
    Yigal Amir is a murderer, plain simple. One can see him as a traitor to the state as well, as the murder of a prime minister is an act against the democratic nature of the state of Israel.
    That's very nice meaningless rhetoric. Yeah, I know, throwing around words like "democratic" and "prime minister or the state" makes it sound pretty solid. To fools.

    Not to mention that the bastard had almost gotten Shimon Peres elected in 1996 on the "they killed Rabin!" hysteria wave.
    Yes, it is unfortunate that he didn't get Peres and Beilin as well. That doesn't take away any legitimacy of his action. It is a citizen's duty to protect his country. Yigal Amir fulfilled his with honor, in that he took the proper pride in what he did. I don't think you'd object if someone murdered Hitler back in the late 1930's. Why should Rabin--the man who betrayed Israel and brought a true disaster on it be treated differently?

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    Posted by Kettle:

    Again, what does it have to do with discussion about Yigal Amir and his wife's blog?

    Madam Larissa is plain and simple durochka - just like half the Russians and their nationalism for a country they did not build or fought for.



    Whether or not you realize it or want to admit it, he did.

    Oi vey, stupid me. To quote the well known proverb - " Azohunvei agitsin Kolhoz Pobeda"


    Cut down on rhetoric... him being "democratically elected" isn't the issue here.

    For me it's the MAIN issue. The only chance Israel has to survive is to remain strongly committed to democratic principles.

    Hitler too was democratically elected.

    Not really. That election was far from Democratic or to the level of what you would call elections today.

    But of course Adolfovich is laughing in his grave - A jew calls an elected Jewish leader a NAZI.


    He was killed for commiting and act of treason. Yigal Amir sacrificed his life to rid Israel of a monster that was destroying the country, so that Jews can get back some of their dignity and regain our country's integrity.

    Amir is an assassin - may he rot in jail for the rest of his life. Madam Larisochka can take a pseydonim of Fennechka Kaplan and write a memoir (will be a big hit at the local Borders) or requalify herself into a Dekobristka.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mil
    Cut down on rhetoric... him being "democratically elected" isn't the issue here.

    For me it's the MAIN issue. The only chance Israel has to survive is to remain strongly committed to democratic principles.
    Israel's problem is not democracy, of which it has an extremely weak form, BTW. Democracy is a natural state of the Jewish condition, and that's something that simply will not change.

    Problem here is a lack of national unity, particularly in opposition to Arabs. And for the large part it is a problem of pusillanimous leftists and their Jewish mothers, who lack any character, moral backbone, or sense of patriotic self-sacrifice.

    Amir is an assassin - may he rot in jail for the rest of his life. Madam Larisochka can take a pseydonim of Fennechka Kaplan and write a memoir (will be a big hit at the local Borders) or requalify herself into a Dekobristka.
    My, how witty..

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    Itzhak Rabin did more for Israel then Joseph Trumpeldor and Menachem Begin combined. I hope you are really speaking for yourself especially when you have an urge to kill another Jew.
    Like what exactly? Murder 16 Jews in cold blood and sink a Jewish ship? Invite Yasser Arafat and his merry band of terrorists from Tunis, give them billions of dollars, train & arm them to mass murder tens of thousands of Jews?

    When it came to mass murdering fellow Jews, he really did out do Begin and Trembolver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharonbn
    So was JF Kennedy.
    I guess Lee H Oswald got rid of an American traitor, so say some.
    First and foremost, those who say that have every right to say that. In fact, their right to say this is legally protected. They can walk around the White House praising Oswald, and not be afraid of any politically-motivated persecution.

    Secondly, Kennedy was not giving away anyone's native land to foreign terrorists. Nor was he a pathetic murdering demagogue. If he was trying to give away half of the U.S. to some third party, he would have, without a doubt deserved to be killed.

    And lastly, to quote JFK:
    "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom."

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    Or more importantly he didnt invite the enemy to the US and than proceed to fund, arm + train them in mass murdering his own citizens.


    I don't understand why Israeli victims of terror are not taking legal action against the Israeli government. In any normal, civilised country, these cabinet ministers would be locked away in prison, or at the very least voted out of office.

    But not in Israel where they are into ironic slogans like 'Kadima.'

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    I'm not sure the comparison is apt but in the American revolution we had some heroes and patriots who did some pretty dark things too. Such is the nature of the formation of free states, for better or worse.

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