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Posted by Khazar:
He said Turkish Coffee is popular and they call it by that name, not imitation names like Lebanease of something else.
bull-sh***t. There is no Turkish, Lebanese, Iranian, Yemeni or any other coffee!!!! Coffee comes from one place, and one place only - AMERICA!!!!!
Recently in Mexico I got to try pure chocolate treat from pure cocoa.... People!!! nothing comes even close.
Mil - stands for the countless MILlions of reasons not to work.
This is incorect. Coffee bean and cocoa bean are two entirely different things. I believe that coffee originated in East Africa or in Yemen itself...likely the former..Originally Posted by Mil
Posted by Khazar:
He said Turkish Coffee is popular and they call it by that name, not imitation names like Lebanease of something else.
Recently in Mexico I got to try pure chocolate treat from pure cocoa.... People!!! nothing comes even close.
http://www.killerplants.com/whats-in...e/20021220.asp
It seems as if the Turks where 15 centuries late in order to be able to claim this "invention": (and who is to say that the first coffee shop wasn't in fact owned by a Greek, Armenian or Jew eh?)...there were certainly more of the former living in Constantinople during this time then there were Turks living there. Note - coffee bean first brought to Americas by Jesuits in 16th century...
Ethiopians make the claim (but seem to attribute it to a much youger date...)
http://www.selamta.net/Ethiopian%20Coffee.htm
On Yemeni origin: (hundreds of years - at least - before arrival of Turks into the vicinity...)
http://www.yobserver.com/cgi-bin/yob...iew.cgi/1/7732
Coffee history legends and myths:
http://groups.msn.com/FoodiesCorner/coffeeorigins.msnw
A very nice history (that discusses Turkish role in trade):
http://www.faseolo.com/01Origins.htm
And of course for balance:
http://www.theturkishtimes.com/archi...5/c_kahve.html
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/6454/coffee.html
A nice history of "Turkish" coffee -
http://www.turkishpeople.com/food/coffee/coffee.html
no need to be rude,it was not my intention to annoy you I just expressed my views,whether if you like it or not..my education in Turkiye is finished. I need higher education. i think it's not your bussines
Blabber, blabber, blabber, do these Europeans ever give it a rest trying to lecture the world about places they know nothing about.
People in Turkey are obviously not a "pure" race rather like all the surrounding countries around it. It doesn't change anything or not allow you to be part of a nation, you are what you feel.
About Turkish Coffee, what exactly is it that get's you foaming at the mouth and crying your eyes out over it.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that Coffee's origins are in Yemen/Ehtiopia/Eastern Africa.
Nobody is denying that Coffee was Originally made into some form of a drink in that region.
However, if we follow this logic then there is no Itallian Coffee, no Austrian Coffee's, Capachino, Expresso, Mocha cannot be called Itallian Coffee's according to this irrational logic they are all apparently Yemenise or wherever the Coffee beans come from.
But of course this is totally idiotic and ridiculous, because its the METHOD in which the Coffee is made which makes it a Capachino, a Turkish Coffee, a Mirra.
This is the Original Turkish Coffee maker from Istanbul
http://www.mehmetefendi.com/
Mr Mehmet Efendi, their family still runs the centries old premises, the process and method of how to make and prepare it is given aswell as tips on Fortune Tellingand a general history.
Turkish Coffee is a Turkish Invention, Capachino is an Itallian Invention, Mirra is an Arab invention CAPICHE
Whatever next, 300,000 becomes 1.5 million, Turkish Delight becomes this, Dolma becomes that you people live in a viscous circle of LIES please tell us some more funny lies you were told I can spot one straight away LOL
I'm sorry to be the one to have to break this to you, Israeli's are not complete idiot's, they know the difference between a Palestinians and a TUrk, one speaks Turkish the other speaks Arabic etc1.5million
I'm not knocking your particular reasoning for you as an individual to move to Israel (though the first time an Israeli military/police roadblock or such mistakes you for a Palestinian you might feel differently yourself) - but I find the whole of your inquiry here bordering on the absurd.
I have relative's who live in Israel, they do not get beaten at checkpoints, quite the contrary they say the people are Efendi
I don't find the enquiry absurd, theres nothing absurd about it, it was simply a question.
When will you go Serdar?
I love Turkish coffee, kept me studying for hours during my college years
Joining EU does not mean we'll go and live in other EU countries.
I talked on behalf of myself,I would never like to be foreigner in a foreign country,it's that simple.
About the Turks living in Germany,it's their decision to live and work there,no I don't want their return home because they may face serious integration problems here,most of them are not be able to understand the importance of the Ataturk reforms and secularism for our country.
About the rest of your message,which nation is 100% pure,are you?
Often one cannot tell Israeli Jews and "Palestinians" or other Arabs apart. When I don't shave for a few days I get padded by the security far more than some Bedouin men and women I've seen in the South who walk straight into malls in their burkas or in traditional Arab robes, shmatas, kufyas. And that's despite me speaking Hebrew with an American accent. At road blocks they generally just check your documents, nothing more. There are thousands of people crossing these every day, both ways.
But regarding the coffee, it is named by the roast, and often also by the country of origin. My preference is Colombian, which is both grown in Colombia, and medium roasted. Yemeni coffee is generally know as "Mocha bean," not to be confused with the coffee/hot cocoa concossion that often goes by the same name due to recipe's origin. French coffee is a dark roast, with beans of any origin, other than Colombia. Italian/Esspresso is a very dark roast, usually from Ethiopean bean. Coffee is not cultivated in either France or Italy, or anywhere else in Europe. Java is Indonesian grown, medium-dark roasted, with high acidity. Kenyan is a medium-dark roast of Kenyan-grown beans. The Turkish coffee sold pretty much everywhere in Israel is the most popular here. It is a medium roast, low acidity, with beans most likely originating in Ethiopia, but possibly also Brazil. It tastes much like Colombian, but not as strong.
These guys are: http://webpages.charter.net/micah/hb.jpg
I totally agree with the last part especially.KettleWhistle
Often one cannot tell Israeli Jews and "Palestinians" or other Arabs apart. When I don't shave for a few days I get padded by the security far more than some Bedouin men and women I've seen in the South who walk straight into malls in their burkas or in traditional Arab robes, shmatas, kufyas. And that's despite me speaking Hebrew with an American accent. At road blocks they generally just check your documents, nothing more.
If you abide by the law and are respectfull to people with authority its very likely that you wont get into trouble and this goes for most places.
I'm puzzled by this whole notion that Israeli police are hunting down Arabs, beating them at every road-point and on a wild witch hunt to get the Arabs.
These are just ridiclous lies and rumour's spread by the usual bunch, the people who havn't ever visited the area's they like to give lecture's about.
Seeing is believing, go and see it for yourself, its a beautiful country with alot of beautiful people.
Finally, someone who knows there coffeeKettleWhistle
But regarding the coffee, it is named by the roast, and often also by the country of origin. My preference is Colombian, which is both grown in Colombia, and medium roasted. Yemeni coffee is generally know as "Mocha bean," not to be confused with the coffee/hot cocoa concossion that often goes by the same name due to recipe's origin. French coffee is a dark roast, with beans of any origin, other than Colombia. Italian/Esspresso is a very dark roast, usually from Ethiopean bean. Coffee is not cultivated in either France or Italy, or anywhere else in Europe. Java is Indonesian grown, medium-dark roasted, with high acidity. Kenyan is a medium-dark roast of Kenyan-grown beans. The Turkish coffee sold pretty much everywhere in Israel is the most popular here. It is a medium roast, low acidity, with beans most likely originating in Ethiopia, but possibly also Brazil. It tastes much like Colombian, but not as strong.
I think living in another culture/country is a very enriching experience. There is nothing like Israel.
The Turks make tea as well as coffee, and I think the Turks are better at Tea then Coffee.
it's a plan. but not is serious stageIsrael is much more democratic than any EU country...
you're always welcome to my country (also Armenian historic lands) for a Turkish coffee in any Armenian community of IstanbulI love Turkish coffee, kept me studying for hours during my college years
Honestly, i've got a sympathy to Israel. People doesn't knows enough about Israel. I simply love this country and it's own people. Very friendly and respectful. I don't believe to the European speechs and TV news.
you catch a perfect point! you may know about the Turkish tea...
btw,is there narghile in Israel?
http://www.camperisti.it/b/libia41/narghile.jpg
Yep. It's called either "nagilla" or "hookah" over here.
What could be better, sitting with friends in the historic setting of Israel, a Nargile between you, some nice refreshing tea or Coffee, backgammon or chess game;s, conversation's in full flow, relaxing, chilling, living life as it was meant to be
This ofcourse is that concept of Keyf which anyone from the Eastern Mediterranean absolutely love's.
My Uncle also said that in Israel there are great Fresh Fruit juice stands where they make it on the spot sounds delicious
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