French Rail Company fined for wartime transport of Jews

[sharonbn]

A French court on Tuesday ordered the state and railway operator SNCF to pay fines for their role in the deportation of Jews during World War Two, a lawyer for the SNCF said.

Alain Lipietz, a Greens European Parliament deputy, and his sister Helene had sued SNCF for transporting their father and three relatives to a wartime transit camp that sent Jews off to Nazi concentration camps.

The French state could not have been unaware that transportation to the Drancy transit camp near Paris was a "prelude to deportation" to concentration camps, lawyer Yves Baudelot quoted the judges as saying. The SNCF and the French state were ordered to pay total fines of some 60,000 euros ($77,000) to the plaintiffs, Baudelot told Reuters.

The court also said the SNCF had never objected or protested against conducting the transportations, and had put Jews in freight carriages without food or minimal standard of hygiene, Baudelot quoted the court as saying. Baudelot said his client would appeal against the verdict.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...259679,00.html

[Neubill]

A very misleading title. The French government was not fined. A French railway was fined.

And the verdict? $77K US for the death of a father? That figure is chump change. Dad is worth only a couple of year's salary? What an insult! Nice to see human life is valued so highly.

[Illuminatus]

SNCF shocked by ruling

From news article:

" I'm amazed by the ruling. I can't understand it "

"The SNCF had no liberty of manoeuvre.

The (Nazis) told the SNCF by letter that they had to do everything the German authorities wanted, and if someone refused, they would be shot.

So he's shocked that collaborating Frenchmen could act like animals. I'm amazed that he's even "shocked".

→ It does go to show that we (all human beings) must constantly ask the moral imperative throughout our lives:

[.. What would I do, when all around me goes to hell ..]

and we must answer

[CoinToss]

A very misleading title. The French government was not fined. A French railway was fined.

And the verdict? $77K US for the death of a father? That figure is chump change. Dad is worth only a couple of year's salary? What an insult! Nice to see human life is valued so highly.

1)France is the first country to deliver money for deportation.
2)France is one of the only country were jewish goods have been (partially) given back.(differently than Poland, where millions of Poles live in houses stolen to jewish victims)
3)France recognized the implication of Vichy gouvernment in the collaboration to the extermination of jews.

France can be considered quite clean concerning its behaviour toward the WW2 history.
The real problem of France nowadays is its arab policy.

[Neubill]

1)France is the first country to deliver money for deportation.
2)France is one of the only country were jewish goods have been (partially) given back.(differently than Poland, where millions of Poles live in houses stolen to jewish victims)
3)France recognized the implication of Vichy gouvernment in the collaboration to the extermination of jews.

1. Good.
2. Good.
3. And Good.

France can be considered quite clean concerning its behaviour toward the WW2 history.
The real problem of France nowadays is its arab policy.

CT, that wasn't my point. $77000 US barely covers the attorney's fees. Ridiculous isn't even the word for it.

[Arjunn]

my views on the french gov and its policies are not fit to be put down on writing or typing!.for that matter.lol. yall know what imean

[Fredo]

It's time to take ARYAN France down

It's also time for you to give us a break with your repeated racist and xenophobic comments...

[Mélanie]

Just for the record, Mr Lipietz's father died some three years ago. Spent some horrible months in Drancy, but was never deported to a death camp.

Many Jewish people and organisation think this verdict is a mistake:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/inte...m?id=843952006

[CoinToss]

Alain Lipietz is an anti-israeli rot.

http://www.uejf.org/modules/forum/vi...b9c0451f87076f
In this link dated of today, his own sister testify implicitly that he considers Israel a colonial state that should be destroyed.

[Neubill]

Alain Lipietz is an anti-israeli rot.

http://www.uejf.org/modules/forum/vi...b9c0451f87076f
In this link dated of today, his own sister testify implicitly that he considers Israel a colonial state that should be destroyed.

And I believe everything I read on the internet.


Who has confirmed the poster named Hélène is who she claims to be?

Don't castigate until you investigate.

[Mediocrates]

The suit is not against individual workers but against the corporate entity which at some level had to give tacit approval of the actions no matter what the force. Or one would expect that the executives would have all been shot as opposed to 8900 workers.

[CoinToss]

And I believe everything I read on the internet.


Who has confirmed the poster named Hélène is who she claims to be?

Don't castigate until you investigate.

Idiot, I am french and I know him very well.
He is a leader of the pro-palestinian party "Les Verts".
I can find all the stuff I need about him, so piss off.

If I choose this link, it's because it's dated of today, and we are talking with his own sister in live.