Shame on Israel

[KettleWhistle]

5 dead after militants attack Israeli post


By YANIV ZOHAR, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago

KIBBUTZ KEREM SHALOM, Israel - Palestinian militants from the Gaza Strip infiltrated Israel through a tunnel early Sunday, attacking a military post and killing two Israelis before soldiers shot dead three gunmen.


Israeli ground troops entered the Gaza Strip hours later, their tanks blowing up smoke and dust as they made their way about a half-mile into the Palestinian-controlled territory, an Associated Press reporter at the scene said. Palestinians were ordered to evacuate the area, while helicopter gunships fired at open fields.


The army confirmed a small force had entered Gaza to search the tunnel area. The army wouldn't say how many troops were involved in the operation.


The militant strike, the first of its kind since Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in August, came days after Israel warned that militants were planning an attack on the area, causing the Gaza-Egypt border to be shut down for several days.


The small Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility for the attack near the Kerem Shalom crossing, saying militants from the ruling Hamas group and from a previously unknown group, the Islam Army, participated in the attack. The PRC said three militants were killed in fighting.


Two Israelis were killed in the attack, security sources said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media. At least five other Israelis were wounded, including three from a bomb detonated shortly after the initial strike, the army said.
The violence comes at a time of heightened tensions over Palestinian rocket attacks on Israeli towns and retaliatory Israeli air strikes that have killed 13 civilians in recent weeks. Palestinians also blame Israeli artillery for an explosion at a Gaza beach that killed eight civilians, but Israel denies it was responsible.


Abu Radwan, a spokesman for the PRC, said his fighters took the body of an Israeli killed in the attack Sunday. The army wouldn't comment on the claim.


"Our fighters infiltrated the Israeli army military location near so-called Kerem Shalom," said Abu Mujahid, another PRC spokesman. "They succeeded in blowing up several Israeli vehicles and clashed with Israeli soldiers. The battle is still going on. The number of fighters is bigger than ever. We have some martyrs who fell during the battle."


He said full details of the operation would be released at a news conference later Sunday.


Residents in a nearby communal farm said the Palestinian militants infiltrated the military post through a tunnel dug under the border fence.


Abu Mujahid refused to confirm the report, but said: "It was a very complicated and well-studied operation. The details are going to shock the Zionists. There are many surprises that are going to be announced about planning and about the process and about the battle itself."


the rest at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060625/...tinians_attack

[KettleWhistle]

So after a full-scale millitary attack what do the Israelis do? Bomb more OPEN FIELDS and go on a tour, after announcing that they are coming. Truly shameful. When Saddam Hussein plotted to assisiante George Bush Sr. in Kuwait, the US retaliated to this failed plot by launching a Tomahawk missile into one of his compounds. When Israel gets attacked, and people get killed, all they do is waste millions of dollars on bombing open fields. Truly shameful. And this behavior really makes you understand why the Arabs continue with their onslaugh in sight of these jokes of retaliations.

When can we expect Israel to act appropriately and take a decisive action? Given that Hamas participated in this attack, Israel has every good reason to just level the "Palestinian" parliament building with all the Hamas terrorists inside.

[MGB8]

Its true. KW is right. The new government is showing itself more and more impotent. They need to resign, and put in people who can do the job.

If the Pal Arabs want war, give them it. All out. No stops. Attack until they surrender, or are dead. That is the ONLY thing that will stop this kind of thing.

They attack an outpost and kill 3, and kidnap another. Kill 300 and arrest another 100. And so on.

[mbczion]

I miss the old Israel that I used to be proud of. You know the one that would send rescue squads around the world to rescue Jews being held hostage, including non-Israeli citizens (Entebbe) and the one that would bomb the cr*p out of an Iraqi nuclear power plant, without worrying about what the rest of the world would say....

What has happened to us? We have become the ultimate doormat

Now Ehud Olmert will not even use the bathroom without asking Washington's permission

[determinism]

i understand that there is an outcry over this attack ...
but where were the outcries over the israeli attacks that took place over the last weeks and killed a dozen palestinian civilists?
were those attacks not more a reason to be ashamed of israel?

[ygalg1]

BTW mbczion Maimonides verdict on Islam was incorrect it is polytheistic not monotheistic.

Volume 2, Book 23, Number 333:

Narrated 'Aisha :

Abu Bakr came riding his horse from his dwelling place in As-Sunh. He got down from it, entered the Mosque and did not speak with anybody till he came to me and went direct to the Prophet, who was covered with a marked blanket. Abu Bakr uncovered his face. He knelt down and kissed him and then started weeping and said, "My father and my mother be sacrificed for you, O Allah's Prophet! Allah will not combine two deaths on you. You have died the death which was written for you."

[MGB8]

It was dicussed on various threads, if you care to look. Of course, the Beach incident appears not to have been Israel's fault, and the other incidents were attacks on combatants that had collateral damage.

Granted, this was an attack by Pal Arab combatants on Israeli combatants... so it to is merely war, not terror. BUT, if the Pal Arabs want war, GIVE THEM WAR. Send them to their 72 virgins.

[tandem]

i understand that there is an outcry over this attack ...
but where were the outcries over the israeli attacks that took place over the last weeks and killed a dozen palestinian civilists?
were those attacks not more a reason to be ashamed of israel?

there are far more important domestic issues that israel should be ashamed of than to spare thoughts about the fate of the people in gaza. the problem, determinism, is that israel has to put up with daily barrages of rockets fired into territory that the international community recognize as israel proper without any condemnation or action from the international community and certainly without any action from the paleostinian leadership on the ground in gaza who are responsible for enforcing authority.

this latest incident shows more than ever that the paleostinians are not human and are in fact merely a bunch of inbred terrorist thugs who are in no way shape or form capable of becoming members of the international community and respecting its treaties and their obligations under it. that is even more of a reason for israel to go in there and f--king wipe them off the face of the planet.

[Thaer K. Hamed]

Palestinians attack Israeli soldiers and there is all this talk about a 'kidnaping' and how that is an escalation.
Yet, just the day before the IDF entered Gaza and kidnapped 2 Palestinians, with dozens murdered in missile attacks in the preceding weeks, without any mention of escalation. Maybe the Israelofasicts are even les human than the Paleostinians.

[tandem]

Palestinians attack Israeli soldiers and there is all this talk about a 'kidnaping' and how that is an escalation.
Yet, just the day before the IDF entered Gaza and kidnapped 2 Palestinians, with dozens murdered in missile attacks in the preceding weeks, without any mention of escalation. Maybe the Israelofasicts are even les human than the Paleostinians.

it appears that you arabs are too stupid to grasp the severity of the situation so i'll try to keep it simple.

the only reason why israel continues to target terrorists in gaza is because despite israel leaving gaza, a withdrawal acknowledged by the international community, the islamonazis continue to pound israeli towns with crude rockets and mortars. since the paleostinian authority is now controlled by islamonazi terrorists, no action has been taken to stop the rocket fire. if anything the hamas government openly takes part in such attacks. about the paleostinian civilians getting killed in airstrikes, if they don't like it they should take up this issue with their government who is allowing these terrorists to launch attacks against israel from behind the backs of their women and children like true muslim warriors

[Mediocrates]

I suspect that if the Palestinians slaughter their captive it won't go particularly well for them in the future. Moreover from a tactical position IDF troops will be just a little less....introspective? about shooting first asking questions later? On the other hand it may presage a point where Palestinians now use IDF troops as potential human shields.

[MGB8]

You have an attack by the Pal Arabs planned and put into action well before the recent beach incident and the botched missle strikes. It takes time to smuggle a missle (against agreement with Israel and the EU through the Gaza Egypt border). It takes even more time to make a tunnel that isn't noticable. This was a long planned and coordinated attack.

It proves, as do the daily Kassam's, that Arabs like you, Thaer, are only interested in war. Well, Ok. War you will get.

[genghis_tom]

I suspect that if the Palestinians slaughter their captive it won't go particularly well for them in the future.

I see here a gravely accurate comparison to events in Iraq. How many US soldiers have died in captivity? And what has the US done? Nothing especially out of the ordinary: round up the usual suspects and play it again, Sam.
It will be even easier for Israel to fall into this rut of inaction, because the insurgents (if I may call Palestinians that) have a separate space, while in Iraq, insurgents are dispersed within direct US control.
Sure, there will be an outcry if the IDF gentleman dies, but no more than if a couple civilians do (which happens nearly every week, and we see the response, or lack thereof).

Moreover from a tactical position IDF troops will be just a little less....introspective? about shooting first asking questions later? On the other hand it may presage a point where Palestinians now use IDF troops as potential human shields

Our age of humanity (ironic as that may sound given what we are talking about) requires certain protocols that, if violated by said civilized countries, results in alienation of that country from the international community. Questions have to be asked nowadays, and that will give the other side the advantage for the concievable future.
Use IDF troops as shields? From the Pali perspective, why not? It paralyzes oppostion ("stop or we will kill") and if you play your cards right, it nets a few million dollars for a release. I'm actually surprised it took Palestine this long to stoop to kidnapping.

Shame on Israel, shame on what we call civilization.

[genghis_tom]

You have an attack by the Pal Arabs planned and put into action well before the recent beach incident and the botched missle strikes. It takes time to smuggle a missle (against agreement with Israel and the EU through the Gaza Egypt border). It takes even more time to make a tunnel that isn't noticable. This was a long planned and coordinated attack.

It proves, as do the daily Kassam's, that Arabs like you, Thaer, are only interested in war. Well, Ok. War you will get.

1. If this was done without official Hamas consent, it shows a disorganized party, an invitation to roaming tribes of gunmen to be formed. Bad for Israel.
2. If this was done with Hamas consent, Hamas is wholeheartedly for and ever will be for the annihilation of Israel, regardless of what they say.
2a. Interesting note: we all know of the talks between Hamas and Fatah, and their "implicitly recognizing Israel." Maybe the fact that this talk was imminent eased/softened Israeli vigilance. This attack totally caught them off guard. All of this all but says that Palis are using the political agenda as a mask. And Israel will keep forgiving as long as this mask is on.

By the way, MGB8, I'm glad to see that your KaddishBand site is up at last. I think we'll need them.

[Gershon]

This is a good parody from Ynet talkback
US. Restrains Israel From Any Action
Bush - Listen Ehud ,number one ,you can't go in and defeat the Palestinian's
you just can't ,that'll screw up all my plans ,got that ?
Olmert - Yes Mr. President
Bush- Before I forget ,great job distancing me from your. ..what's it called now divergence ? convergence ?
The stupid Zionists , Jewboys are too dumb to tie it to my Road Map final solution plan ,great job taking the heat for me, that's loyalty Ehud. It means alot to me ,your loyalty............
So you got trouble in Gaza ?
Olmert -Yes sir .
Bush - Just stall , it's only one soldier,don't let it get out of hand ,remember the plan ,restrain the IDF ,build up the Pal's.
A weak Israel is our main goal.
Olmert - Mr. President I know I promised not to escalate and to keep the IDF restrained ,but things have changed ,I've to to act.
They're already percieving me as weak.
Bush - I know you have problems in Gaza, Ehud ,but you just can't go in ,it will ruin our success and destroy momentum for Israel's destruction, oops, I mean for the Road Map peace plan.
Olmert - But Mr. President, I'm under great pressure to do something.
Bush- Just talk tough and mass your troops on the border with Gaza and do nothing else or I will cut you (Israel)off.
There are many there ready to take your place ,remember that .
I want to make it abundantly clear that you are not to go into Gaza,a small limited and restrained response is all that I will allow you to appease your citizens.
Also I want you to crush without mercy the right who are the only opposition to my Final Solution Road Map for Israel.
Demonize them ,arrest them,harass them and hound them ,kill them if you have to.
Adolph would be proud of my clever plan , it has successfully flown under the radar and the majority of Christian's and Jews are completely off guard and asleep.
Even as I protect the Palestinian terrorists and keep Israel from defeating them under threats and hard pressure they still support me.
These fools are so easy to decieve and seduce .
They voted for me and I work day and night to bring about haSatan's New World Order.
Israel has no place in this plan.

Olmert - Mr. President, I went along with your plan to send thousands of weapons and ammunition to the P.A. and I went along with Amona ,but I'm afraid some of my Military Commanders are wakeing up to what is going on .
Bush- Don't worry ,if you got a problem I'll send some of my best silencers over there and take care of it for you.
We've got to neutralize Israel to get the Arabs on base with our global agenda and thats the only way they'll stay on board.
We've got to deliver .
Olmert - Yes sir Mr. President, I'm happy to serve you and your glorious plan.
I am your obedient servant.
Marcel , Florida (06.27.06)