Reuters Photos... Oh my...

[Hamsun]

lubnani,

your hysterics have cast you far off of the topic, I am afraid.

This is about journalistic integrity. There are very severe breaches of ethics here and this photographer should never be published again. Your failure to see the issues for what they are is really alarming.
Answer me this: do you think you arabs/muslims should be held to the same occupational standards as everyone else, or do you think that you are "less of a human" and don't have to abide by the rules everyone else goes by? I'm just curious!
Yours,
Hamsun

[farmall]

FWIW, anyone in the region taking photos is quite free to post the less-saleable ones (after all, ya gotta make a living) on their choice of free web hosting. Ogrish is usually happy to get the gory ones, and there is ample free hosting for the others (Google for it).
Got pics? Have at it.

[Hamsun]

FWIW, anyone in the region taking photos is quite free to post the less-saleable ones (after all, ya gotta make a living) on their choice of free web hosting. Ogrish is usually happy to get the gory ones, and there is ample free hosting for the others (Google for it).
Got pics? Have at it.

Good advice for Lubnani.
I am sure he is out there producing and staging a bunch of photo-shoots with corpses; a real scummy way to make a living, but hey, someone has to do it.

[Lubnani]

Im not justifying what he did, because i dont know if he did it, the proof is not really that strong, but what surprises me more, is the question why should he do it, when these pictures really exist, i mean i have taken pictures of Dahye in the morning hours, almost exactly like that. So i would ask myself why should he go through the trouble, i dont know.
Ofcourse i am against it, because i risk my to take pictures in war torn areas like in Tyre and Marjayoun while he will fake it.
You are just being quick to judge
You are right, someone has to do it, i dont stage photoshoots, i take them as i see them. Not everyone is scum.
And i dont know what this war is about, but i am sure your a$$ doesnt know it either.

[Hamsun]

Im not justifying what he did, because i dont know if he did it, the proof is not really that strong, but what surprises me more, is the question why should he do it, when these pictures really exist, i mean i have taken pictures of Dahye in the morning hours, almost exactly like that. So i would ask myself why should he go through the trouble, i dont know.
Ofcourse i am against it, because i risk my to take pictures in war torn areas like in Tyre and Marjayoun while he will fake it.
You are just being quick to judge
You are right, someone has to do it, i dont stage photoshoots, i take them as i see them. Not everyone is scum.
And i dont know what this war is about, but i am sure your a$$ doesnt know it either.

Hey Lubby,
The verdict is "in", there is nothing left to judge, this a$$hole cheated at his job, is filthy scum, and will lose most of his business as a result--justice.
Or do you condone changing photo-evidence to support your unjust cause?

[Bigggieben]

So not only does Rueters use the faked photo, one of their employees threatens the life of the blogger who outed the fake photo. That is class.



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...256534,00.html

Reuters employee issues 'Zionist pig' death threat



Worker suspended after telling American blogger: 'I look forward to day when you pigs get your throats cut'
Yaakov Lappin



A Reuters employee has been suspended after sending a death threat to an American blogger.



The message, sent from a Reuters internet account, read: "I look forward to the day when you pigs get your throats cut."



It was sent to Charles Johnson, owner of the Little Green Footballs (LGF) weblog, a popular site which often backs Israel and highlights jihadist terrorist activities.



In the threat, the Reuters staff member, who has not been named, left his email address as "zionistpig" at hotmail.com.



Reporting the message to his readers, Johnson wrote on his website: "This particular death threat is a bit different from the run of the mill hate mail we get around here, because an IP lookup on the sender reveals that he/she/it was using an account at none other than Reuters News."



Speaking to Ynetnews, Johnson said: "I was surprised to receive a threat from a Reuters IP, but only because it was so careless of this person to use a traceable work account to do it."



He added: "I think it's more than fair to say that Reuters has a big problem."



'Employee suspended'



After bringing the threat to the attention of Reuters, Johnson was told by the news organization's Global Head of Communications, Ed


Williams: "I can confirm that an employee has been suspended pending further investigation. The individual was not an employee of Reuters' news division."



In an additional twist, Johnson traced the movements of the sender of the threat, and found direct parallels between the internet locations of the sender and Inayat Bunglawala, Media Secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain.



Bunglawala, who contirbuted an editorial to the Guardian website, has attracted negative attention in the past after making anti-Semitic outbursts, and has declared that the British media was "Zionist-controlled."



In the comment section of the Guardian, underneath his own editorial, Bunglawala denied sending the threat, blaming "Zionists" instead.



"That was not me! Methinks some Zionists are up to mischief," he wrote.



"There is strong circumstantial evidence connecting Bunglawala to the threat, but there is no way for me to verify this for certain. Only a Reuters network administrator would have access to the necessary records," Johnson said.

[redcake]

the proof is not really that strong

The photographer admitted he used photoshop, and Reuters pulled the photo for being suspect. That's proof.

If you need further proof of a failure in ethics - look in a mirror.

[Lubnani]

Well i didnt read the article and well i have no idea why the hell he would do it, i'm about to take some pictures now, i mean they just bombed 5 times in arow, in the past 20 minutes.
So yes he is a cheat and i dont condone this kind of behaviour either, doesnt look good for him, i hope i can steal his job though.

[Yoni45]

[.. the photographer had been suspended ..] ????

Exactly who is this "photographer", and has he/she sent in for publication other photos that should now be considered "suspect"?

^_^

The name of the guy is Adnan Hajj, and it looks like you're right on the money...

For the record, the guy claimed he was trying to "remove some dust", and this happened because of the poor lighting conditions... hah, right...

Looks like someone's already found another photoshopped pic by him...

This one's harder to spot, but the 3 flares should make it pretty obvious now that you know what you're looking for ^^

http://photos.reuters.com/Pictures/S...62500&kw=&id=1

And, of course, the detailed proof:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/184206.php

[Floyd]

Hey world! Libanon is fakeing the death! All the granades and bombs that we throw are full of candyes.


LOOOOOOOOOOOL


Do you really expect us to believe that, or you are just brainwashing your selfs with your propaganda?

[Womble]

The photographer admitted he used photoshop, and Reuters pulled the photo for being suspect.

Not only that, but Adnan's OTHER photos are now also being questioned. Oh and Lubnani, how plausible do you, as a photographer, find Adnan's excuse for faking the photo?

"The photographer has denied deliberately attempting to manipulate the image, saying that he was trying to remove dust marks and that he made mistakes due to the bad lighting conditions he was working under," said Moira Whittle, the head of public relations for Reuters.

Gee, some mistakes.

More wonders from Reuters:

REUTERS' HIJACKING LEBANON'S ANSWER TO THE UN?

A few hours after a Franco-American draft for a UN Security Council resolution was released, pro-Hezbollah lobbies and allies launched a campaign to hijack the response of Lebanon to the United Nations. As noted by seasoned observers the campaign started at the top with an alert release by News Agency Reuters written by Lin Noueihed. The article, put out early Sunday has reached the four corners of the Globe and its title has framed the position of the Lebanese people in a "no" to the UN expected resolution. Amazingly enough, Lin Noueihid titles her release "Lebanon rejects draft UN resolution." But when you read the release you realize that the "representative" of all of Lebanon in the eyes of the Reuters reporter is no one other than pro-Syrian, Hezbollah ally, Nabih Berri, the leader of Shiite Movement Amal.

Noueihid wrote that "Lebanon rejects a draft U.N. Security Council resolution to end 26 days of fighting because it would allow Israeli forces to remain on Lebanese soil, Parliament Speaker Nabih Berri said on Sunday." Basing her entire report on one of the most powerful supporters of the Syrian occupation and who heads a militia allied to Hezbollah, Noueihid gives Berri the full power of the credibility of Reuters. This title will find itself printed from Yahoo to the last local newsletter in the Fidji islands. Evidently, local editors around the world trust Reuters as they trust the Red Cross, and will conclude that indeed "Lebanon" has rejected a UN resolution, while in reality, it is Tehran-Damascus-Hezbollah axis that rejected it, and unfortunately a Reuters writer framed it otherwise.

Noueihid wrote "Slamming the French-U.S. draft as biased, Berri said it ignored a seven-point plan presented by Lebanon that calls for an immediate ceasefire, the withdrawal of Israeli forces and the return of all displaced civilians among other things." He added that ""Lebanon, and all of Lebanon, rejects any resolution that is outside these seven points," said Berri, who has been negotiating on behalf of Hizbollah guerrillas. But leaders of the civil society, NGOs, members of Parliament and cadres from the Cedars Revolution said just the opposite. "The people of Lebanon, those who marched in downtown Beirut on March 14, 2005 are with this resolution" said Toni Nissi, coordinator for UNSCR 1559 in Beirut. "Who represent Lebanon more than the one million and a half Lebanese who demonstrated against the Syrian occupation, for Hezbollah disarming and against the regime of Lahoud and Berri," said Youssef Douiahi, President of the World Council for the Cedars Revolution from Sydney. "We've been on the phones with heads of municipalities and MPs in Lebanon and no one accepts Reuters assumption that war lord Nabih Berri represents Lebanon's response to the UN," said Tom Harb, secretary general of the Committee 1559 . "M Berri's legislative bloc is in the minority. He was unfortunately reelected at the position of the speaker of the house by the legislative majority headed by M Saad Hariri. Surely that was a political mistake but this doesn't give Reuters to frame Lebanon's will and reduce the popular majority of the country to be represented against its will by a militia leader, who by the way was responsible for the hijacking of the TWA airliner in 1985."

Reuter quotes Berri stating that "their resolution will either drop Lebanon into internal strife or will be impossible to implement," which in fact reveals his intents and those of Hezbollah: If the UN resolution is voted Hezbollah and its allies will attack the Lebanese Government and the Cedars Revolution

Reuters wrote that Berri considered the wording of the resolution was loaded against Lebanon. He complained that an international force that would be established by a second U.N. resolution, following an initial resolution establishing a truce, would come under Chapter Seven of the U.N. charter, which authorizes the use of force, but would not necessarily be answerable to the world body. Analysis which confirms reports that Syria, Iran and Hezbollah are poised to take the fight against the United Nations and any international force.

Commenting from Beirut, Human Rights activist and Cedars Revolution Human Rights officer Kamal Batal said the "Reuters framing of Lebanon's answer to the UN is a hijacking of the opinions of millions of Lebanese. The popular majority in Lebanon wants to end the War now and the disbanding of all militias," he said. Analyzing Reuters' release closely George Chaya, Director for the Lebanese Information Office for Latin America in Buenos Aires said "it is not really a coincidence that Lin Nouaihid twisted realities and induced millions of readers around the world into error in perception. From a thorough review of Nouaihid's previous campaigns through Reuters and other media, you can easily see her framings in the Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, Koran affairs in addition to her postings on radical web sites. Nouaihid has all the freedom to express her ideological positions but Reuters credibility as a fair and professional news agency are now damaged."

In fact the Lebanese Government of Fouad Seniora has stated that the UN draft doesn't meet their requirements of a real solution. He told CNN that this draft "is not really adequate and does not really achieve the objective that they have set for themselves." Seniora and his colleagues wanted a stronger UN resolution that would help Lebanon regain its control of its land. Berri's position is different: he is opposed to any UN resolution that would give Lebanon's army international support to disarm the militia.

As I argued in my book Future Jihad, the war of ideas has been raging for years in the media and academia. Lebanon's framing is not new. During the long and terrible wars of Lebanon from 1975 until 2000, writers in news agencies and journalists such as Jonathan Randall, Thierry DesJardins, Robert Fisk and others sculpted the perception of Lebanon at their discretion and often against the thinking process of Lebanon's popular majority.

How many houses did she have?

[Floyd]

These are the funny tactics by you... every time someone write something that defeat your arguments you make a big copy/paste fro some article so you would distract me. That's why I'm going to quote myself:

Hey world! Libanon is fakeing the death! All the granades and bombs that we throw are full of candyes.


LOOOOOOOOOOOL


Do you really expect us to believe that, or you are just brainwashing your selfs with your propaganda?

Have another article?

[Hamsun]

These are the funny tactics by you... every time someone write something that defeat your arguments you make a big copy/paste fro some article so you would distract me. That's why I'm going to quote myself:



Have another article?

Have another slivowitz, you dunce?

[Womble]

These are the funny tactics by you... every time someone write something that defeat your arguments you make a big copy/paste fro some article so you would distract me. That's why I'm going to quote myself:

"Quoting oneself is a futile exercise, as both the quoter and the quotee are usually found to be dolts." -Mark Twain.

The reason I did not address your post is because it wasn't worth addressing. You have made no arguments in that post, let alone defeat anyone else's. All you did was attempt to dismiss a mountain of evidence through a lame appeal to ridicule.

Grow the hell up, Floyd. And learn to type.

Oh and

[Roland]

Thank you, Adnan Hajj!
For this great blow at Reuters with it's pants down.
For the most miserable Photoshop job I've ever seen.

Every bloody PS beginner I ever saw would have faked that better and inspection-proof.
Is Reuters like Wikipedia? You can just submit anything? Ha!

A nice reminder. If Reuters falls for pics like that - what about words?