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    Quote Originally Posted by takeo
    "Until recently, there were severe restrictions on speaking languages other than Turkish (which is the only official language of Turkey), and publications in minority languages were not allowed. Since recent reforms took place, minorities have the right to speak their own language, publish their own newspaper, broadcast their own TV channels and operate private schools that teach Kurdish or any other language spoken in Turkey. Nevertheless, no ethnic group is allowed to be educated in their mother tongue. The official explanation given for this restriction is 'the principle of unity of language in education'.

    This, however, constitutes a radically different interpretation from 'minority rights' as established in the relevant European conventions. According to these, Turkey should accept, and even subsidise education of minorities in their own mother tongue, and that for at least all mandatory education (and according to some, for all education, including academic education)."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Turkey

    in Russia most minorities not only can be educated in their mother tongue, but most have autonomy within the Russian federation. Kurds, Armenians nor any other minority in turkey has these rights. But it used to be much worse, untill a few years ago even just speaking Kurdish in public could get you in trouble.

    thats why african burnt your country call fireman to help you ...if doesnt enought to help call armenian fire department to help. see yourself before write comment...
    human right just i gonna give you one example

    Turkey was the first country to give full political rights to women in Europe, in 1934.

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    Theodikritis
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    Quote Originally Posted by isy
    thats why african burnt your country call fireman to help you ...if doesnt enought to help call armenian fire department to help. see yourself before write comment...
    human right just i gonna give you one example

    Turkey was the first country to give full political rights to women in Europe, in 1934.
    Denmark beat you by half a century, Britain beat you by 14 years, however I do wonder as the military of your country loses it's power will women lose their rights?

    We can all acknowledge that is what Erdogan is working towards?

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    Aysun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodikritis
    Denmark beat you by half a century, Britain beat you by 14 years, however I do wonder as the military of your country loses it's power will women lose their rights?

    We can all acknowledge that is what Erdogan is working towards?

    we are a democratic country. even though I don't support Erdogan or
    his political party, they came to power with democratic elections and
    can't do anything against our laws. this is out of question. and yes Turkish military is always the biggest symbol of the secular Turkey.

    btw, UK grants equal voting rights to women in 1928, only 2 years before Turkey. and this happens in 1915 in Denmark, not before then that. how about Greece? as far as I know you didn't grant the political rights to
    woman till 1950s? am I wrong?

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    Theodikritis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aysun
    we are a democratic country. even though I don't support Erdogan or
    his political party, they came to power with democratic elections and
    can't do anything against our laws. this is out of question. and yes Turkish military is always the biggest symbol of the secular Turkey.

    btw, UK grants equal voting rights to women in 1928, only 2 years before Turkey. and this happens in 1915 in Denmark, not before then that. how about Greece? as far as I know you didn't grant the political rights to
    woman till 1950s? am I wrong?
    You are a little bit off.

    The vote was almost gained for women in the 1920s, however the rise of Metaxas the dictator put an end to that.

    Greek women in the end got the vote after the end of the post WW11 Civil War in 1948, lost it along with Greek Men to the Colonels Regime, then got it back following the overthrowing of the same regime, so we have a much better record then some, and not as good as some others.

    However my question is a fair question, the Shariah that Islamists want to impose do not aprove of women's rights. Just what about Turkey's laws can't be changed by the Islamists? They have 66% of the seats, as far as I know for Turkey to change it's laws 75% is needed so what would stop Erdogan if he gets the extra 9% he needs next time around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodikritis
    You are a little bit off.

    The vote was almost gained for women in the 1920s, however the rise of Metaxas the dictator put an end to that.

    Greek women in the end got the vote after the end of the post WW11 Civil War in 1948, lost it along with Greek Men to the Colonels Regime, then got it back following the overthrowing of the same regime, so we have a much better record then some, and not as good as some others.

    However my question is a fair question, the Shariah that Islamists want to impose do not aprove of women's rights. Just what about Turkey's laws can't be changed by the Islamists? They have 66% of the seats, as far as I know for Turkey to change it's laws 75% is needed so what would stop Erdogan if he gets the extra 9% he needs next time around?
    first our government is a puppet one and as long as the string holders want a stabil turkey there wont be something like that... so if we put away that puppet thing yes they are dangerous and they are using all advantages of having the majority... we can always depend on the army (but thats not democracy) and i dont think army wants to fondle with civillians any more cos they have been critisized badly for that... but i am assuming they won the election cos they got the reaction votes..so i think they are goners in the next election... well if they dont i am gonna start to beat the muslim looking turkish citizens one by one

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    Aysun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodikritis
    However my question is a fair question, the Shariah that Islamists want to impose do not aprove of women's rights. Just what about Turkey's laws can't be changed by the Islamists? They have 66% of the seats, as far as I know for Turkey to change it's laws 75% is needed so what would stop Erdogan if he gets the extra 9% he needs next time around?
    During our election only %35 of Turkish voters voted for Erdogan. so %65 of us are against them. so they don't have a big public support behind them. besides, Erdogan and his ministers are not really the hard core Islamists. they are not the type of fundamentalists that will want to change woman rights. they are not like Iranian government. don't forget, they are the ones who are working really hard to join EU. maybe in their heads they may want to change some laws but in reality Turkey is at the stage that there is no way we can go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aysun
    During our election only %35 of Turkish voters voted for Erdogan. so %65 of us are against them. so they don't have a big public support behind them. besides, Erdogan and his ministers are not really the hard core Islamists. they are not the type of fundamentalists that will want to change woman rights. they are not like Iranian government. don't forget, they are the ones who are working really hard to join EU. maybe in their heads they may want to change some laws but in reality Turkey is at the stage that there is no way we can go back.
    Aysun, he is damn right... Listen they are better okay... Let him have satisfaction He just writes for his own satisfaction. Reality and the time will prove everything; as the history proven! Throwing all single of them to the sea... i loved this part... Sweeping the trash out...

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    something is wrong with serdar today

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