Right on.Originally posted by MGB8
A list of things Israel needs to Emphasize in the media (in shorthand, I hope you all get em):
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Right on.Originally posted by MGB8
A list of things Israel needs to Emphasize in the media (in shorthand, I hope you all get em):
Actually, I think it IS about history. People have been conned into believing in certain "rights" etc, justifying the belief that Israel is "wrong."
There are only about 5 or 6 categories of questions that are asked, and Israeli officials, and pro-Israeli jews in general, need top have 5 or 6 facts on hand to strongly argue the Israeli point of view.
What are these categories:
1. Should Israel even exist at all?
Yes. First, Palestine is just a word, use Judea. Never any Palestinian State, really no real ethnicity, just arab (has been said by PLO officers) - Arabs have rest of mideast, why need Israel, too? 48 defensive war. 67, 73 defensive wars. Israel never promised squat on refugee issue, the Res 194 talk is BS, nor does it carry the force of law. Judeo-Christian ties to Jerusalem, Judea.
2. Offer Hope?
They already had it. Oslo created interim state. Gave em tons of money. Clinton visited arafat. Got offered 97% of what they wanted. Result - more, and deadlier, terrorism.
3. Arafat.
Proven Liar. Proven murderer. Tons of example (list a few). Never truly free elections while he's around.
etc.
Dear MGB8, how exactly do you plan to convey this to a disinterested audience? Kidnap some unfortunate members of your "target audience" and let them go free only after they have learned it by heart?
Have you ever asked yourself whether there are many people out there who are likely to appreciate the kind of information you suggest, as presented in raw form? If you are planning to convince the media, don't you think that the waste paper baskets of the respective institutions will be large enough to hold the readers' letters containing a text of the kind you are proposing?
There is nothing really new or sensational about such approaches. They have never really worked until now, and I don't see any chance that they would do so in future. Sorry, but come back to the earth.
What Israel needs are public relations campaigns designed roughly along the common marketing and advertisement approaches, i.e. based on emotional messages. Facts are a nice thing to have in the background, but they are not what influences the man on the street. Even less so with all the charming and touching Palestinians around.
Yes propaganda is not a dirty word. It's a way of conveying highly partisan information in the most effective way.
I disagree VIc, because I don't think Israel has ever effectively done it.
Bibi is Israel's best spokesman, and even he is not as organized or specific as I would ask.
Other Israeli-spokespeople are much, much worse.
When Israel has a representative speaking to the media, that representative should be like an American Politician, prepared for the questions likely to be recieved with specific points to emphasize in return.
Jewish agencies should be similarly prepared to respond to newspaper editorials and the like.
Finally, the more Jewish people are prepared for these questions, the better they will be able to convey their feelings to their friends, who will convey it to their friends, and so on.
Originally posted by Vic
Dear MGB8, how exactly do you plan to convey this to a disinterested audience? Kidnap some unfortunate members of your "target audience" and let them go free only after they have learned it by heart?
Have you ever asked yourself whether there are many people out there who are likely to appreciate the kind of information you suggest, as presented in raw form? If you are planning to convince the media, don't you think that the waste paper baskets of the respective institutions will be large enough to hold the readers' letters containing a text of the kind you are proposing?
There is nothing really new or sensational about such approaches. They have never really worked until now, and I don't see any chance that they would do so in future. Sorry, but come back to the earth.
What Israel needs are public relations campaigns designed roughly along the common marketing and advertisement approaches, i.e. based on emotional messages. Facts are a nice thing to have in the background, but they are not what influences the man on the street. Even less so with all the charming and touching Palestinians around.
Don't you think that what you are actually writing yourself is more about rhetoric techniques than about specific arguments?Originally posted by MGB8
I disagree VIc, because I don't think Israel has ever effectively done it.
Bibi is Israel's best spokesman, and even he is not as organized or specific as I would ask.
Other Israeli-spokespeople are much, much worse.
When Israel has a representative speaking to the media, that representative should be like an American Politician, prepared for the questions likely to be recieved with specific points to emphasize in return.
Jewish agencies should be similarly prepared to respond to newspaper editorials and the like.
Finally, the more Jewish people are prepared for these questions, the better they will be able to convey their feelings to their friends, who will convey it to their friends, and so on.
I think that Arafat is nothing more than the "Public image of Palestine".
Arafat has no control over his people anymore, "The Last chance" things are truly quite "Hilarious". The Palestinian Government is in Chaos, and Arafat won't admit that "His powerless and can't order things anymore", so that's why the Terrorists are running loose, shooting and bombing innocent people as much as they can.
To consider on What would happen if Arafat could gather his strengh and finally Order things around, he'd probaply be killed by his own men, or some sort of an Internal conflict would begin. As long as Hamas and all the other organizations are let to run loose, there won't be a Peaceful resolution to the conflict. And what comes to Israel's self defence right, I agree with it. The rest of the World leaders have to be quite dumb if they don't see that the Palestinians are also killing Small children, and innocent people, why is this not mentioned when people start to critisize Israel?
Why is the Palestinian Terrorism any different from the Israeli Counter-Attacks?
So, "Egypt has the best tank in the world" I see, well........
Why would the Arabs be willing to attack Israel, they've lost before and been humiliated because of that. And, What comes to the Equipment that the IDF has, I think that they will be quite capable to defend themselves at least as long as the US arrives to help....Maybe.
It is not the weaponery that you have, it is the way you handle it.
Assuming you are serious about needing help understanding this...Originally posted by Dalleer
Why is the Palestinian Terrorism any different from the Israeli Counter-Attacks?
Palestinian terrorists purposely target Israeli civilians. They have clearly demonstrated that they look for the most helpless civilians available. Thus, the attack on a pizzeria filled with moms and toddlers; the attack on a Passover Seder attended mainly by elderly people; and the attack on a disco frequented largely by teenage girls.
Israel's counterattacks are intended to kill terrorist leaders, and they have done a darn good job of picking these people out. It is unfortunate that Palestinian civilians are sometimes killed, but it is not the goal. Sometimes they can get the guy in a taxi. Shehada was too careful, and he knew that Israel is loathe to attack him in a crowd. Really, he exploited this loathing, but Israel was tired of simply absorbing Hamas' mass murder attacks.
Now do you understand the difference?
I've just been Enlighted by your words, ibrodsky.
Absolute Truth
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