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    60% of Palestinians:Bomb Israeli towns

    Poll: Most Palestinians back Hizbullah

    Joint survey by Israeli, Palestinian institutes finds that over 60 percent of Palestinians think Gaza, West Bank terror groups should imitate Hizbullah tactics and bombard Israeli towns. Plus, most Israeli Arabs thinks Nasrallah ‘looking out for them’

    Roee Nahmias Published: 09.26.06, 17:11

    The recent war in Lebanon increased support for Hizbullah among the Palestinian population in the territories, as well as among Israeli Arabs, who believe that Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah is looking out for their wellbeing.

    The boosted support for Hizbullah was revealed in a public opinion poll carried out jointly by the Hebrew University in Jerusalem’s Harry S. Truman Institute for the Advancement of Peace and the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research based in Ramallah.

    According to the survey, which was carried out after the end of fighting in Lebanon, a solid 65 percent majority of the Palestinian public believes terror organizations in the Gaza Strip and West Bank should adopt Hizbullah’s tactics and shell Israeli towns with rockets. Only 35 percent were opposed to such a move.

    The survey noted that these numbers were parallel to Hizbullah support measured in June 2000, after the IDF’s withdrawal from south Lebanon. At the time, 65 percent of Palestinians were supportive and 27 percent opposed. However, it should be noted that in 2000 the term “Hizbullah tactics” had different implications – and rather referred to guerilla warfare against army forces.

    The war had no effect on Palestinian support for suicide bomb attacks against Israeli civilians, and a majority of Palestinians continued to support them.

    According to the present poll’s findings, 57 percent of Palestinians supported suicide bomb attacks, while a similar survey in March 2006 found 56 percent support.

    The tactic of kidnapping of Israeli soldiers to use as bargaining chips won the support of three-fourths of Palestinians, while only 23 percent opposed.


    'Nasrallah cares about Arab citizens'

    The survey also sought to compare the views of the Jewish and Arab public in Israel regarding the war in Lebanon, against the backdrop of claims during the war and its aftermath that Israeli Arabs sympathize with Hizbullah and its objectives.

    While only 24 percent of Jewish respondents said they believe that Nasrallah is concerned about the fate of Israel's Arabs, 70 percent of Israeli-Arabs who participated in the poll said they think the Hizbullah leader is looking out for them. Meanwhile, 77 percent of Jewish respondents stated they think Arab citizens were concerned with Hizbullah's fate, and 68 percent of Arab respondents stated as much.

    The survey also focused on the war's influence on Israelis' and Palestinians' predictions regarding the continuation of violence in the region and their willingness to renew negotiations with the other side.

    Among Israeli respondents, 56 percent supported and 43 percent opposed talks with the Hamas government. About two thirds of the Israeli public support negotiations with a Palestinian unity government that includes Hamas, assuming that this is a condition for a peace agreement.

    Among Palestinians, however, the trend seems to be reversed. While in a poll conducted before the war 70 percent said they believe that a Hamas-led Palestinian authority should negotiate with Israel, and 26 percent objected, after the war, the support rate dropped to 59 percent, while the opposition rose to 38 percent.

    The Palestinian survey, conducted by Dr. Khalil Shkaki, represents residents of the Wets Bank, the Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem, and was held among 1,270 interviewees age 18 and over.

    The Israeli poll was conducted among 500 Jewish citizens and 401 Arab citizens.


    Most Israelis oppose Golan Heights withdrawal

    An additional survey carried out on August 28-30 examined Israeli public opinion on a settlement with Syria, an issue which was previously surveyed in August 2000 immediately after the collapse of negotiations between Israel and Syria that year.

    The current poll found that the second war in Lebanon had no effect on public opinion in the matter. According to the poll, 56 percent of Israelis disapproved of withdrawing from the Golan Heights in return for a full peace settlement with Syria while 32 percent approved.

    In August 2000, 55 percent disapproved while 34 percent approved.

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    as long as arabs are installed this idea to their hardisk (brain), there is no peace coming to the Middle East. Arabs must to learn how to live together with Israelis. IT-MUST-NOT-BE-HARD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by serdar View Post
    as long as arabs are installed this idea to their hardisk (brain), there is no peace coming to the Middle East. Arabs must to learn how to live together with Israelis. IT-MUST-NOT-BE-HARD!
    Well it's little bit hard when their parents instigate them against Israel:

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    I agree with sender and The Israeli Guy, but to be rational and fair in judgement, I believe the situation is a two-way traffic. As long as (some) Israelis as you can see in this forum keep using phrases like "All Arabs", and spread hatred we're not going to get anywhere with the World peace.

    Basically we're circling loops here: Some Arabs brain-wash their children from early age to hate Israelis and some do the same things by introducing "Arabs" as their enemy number 1.

    I'm not saying we should 'hide' the history, but as sender nicely SHOULTED "IT-MUST-NOT-BE-HARD!"

    When you talk to the extremists (both Zionists & Arabs) it's easy to see that both sides, essentially, have the same attitude and the whole game comes down to swapping words:

    It doesn’t matter whether you call yourself Muslim or Jew. Hatred and extremism brings war. You can go on forever and find millions of reasons to blame the other side, but when your actions emulate that of the other side, then you have proved to be the same as the other side.

    I'm not talking about the issue of defense and protecting civilians- That's a separate issue and however related, it's not what I'm trying to focus on.

    I hope I’ll live long enough to see Israel and their neighbours live in peace.

    All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Israeli Guy View Post
    Poll: Most Palestinians back Hizbullah

    Joint survey by Israeli, Palestinian institutes finds that over 60 percent of Palestinians think Gaza, West Bank terror groups should imitate Hizbullah tactics and bombard Israeli towns. Plus, most Israeli Arabs thinks Nasrallah ‘looking out for them’
    This is the essence of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: Most of the Arabs want to bomb Israeli population centers.

    That's why the Leftist formula of giving the Palestinians more land from which to launch rockets into Israel, is dead wrong.

    Interesting, though, that when we see surveys like this, they rarely, if ever, get mentioned by those "peace activists" who claim to be so worried about the death of innocent civilians.
    "All we are saying is give peace a chance." - John Lennon

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewsGuy View Post
    That's why the Leftist formula of giving the Palestinians more land from which to launch rockets into Israel, is dead wrong.
    Precisely.
    Quote Originally Posted by NewsGuy View Post
    Interesting, though, that when we see surveys like this, they rarely, if ever, get mentioned by those "peace activists" who claim to be so worried about the death of innocent civilians.
    Their name is not "peace activists" but "Pro Palestinian Terror Activists".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsi View Post
    Basically we're circling loops here: Some Arabs brain-wash their children from early age to hate Israelis and some do the same things by introducing "Arabs" as their enemy number 1.
    Not some Arabs, most Arabs.

    As for Israelis introducing Arabs as their enemy number 1, well, this is the case. That doesn't mean that Israelis want to genocide them or malign them in every way possible. Those Jews simply want our conflict to be over with, so that we are no longer enemies. Not for us to be friends, but just to be separate, and for them to mind their own affairs, and ignore ours, and for us to do the same.

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    why they say this

    It isn't really fair to judge Palestinians and what they say in anger.

    If you were living in the kind of poverty and despair that the Palestinians are living in, you would also say the same thing. They also believe that Israel is not serious about peace.

    The reason they voted for Hamas is because Hamas is better than the PA at social work and providing for their needs. The PA had to be kicked out, and good riddance.

    You should try to convince Hamas to change their charter. That is the best thing to do, and not demonise Palestinians, most of whom want what we all want, security and a safe country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KettleWhistle View Post
    Not some Arabs, most Arabs.
    99%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muslima View Post
    It isn't really fair to judge Palestinians and what they say in anger.

    If you were living in the kind of poverty and despair that the Palestinians are living in, you would also say the same thing. They also believe that Israel is not serious about peace.
    Why not? The seem to have been angry for a long long time, well before the formation of Israel and the opportunity that they rejected to form an Arab/Muslim country alongside of it. The assaults and murders of Jews by Arabs prior to 1948 give proof that it isn't their 'anger'. The hundreds if not thousands of attacks from the West Bank between 1948 and 1967 give proof that it isn't 'anger' at being 'poor'. The fact that the PLO was formed PRIOR to 1967 shows that it isn't about 'despair'.

    It has everything to do with the existence of Israel and not the conditions that the Arabs through their own actions bring about via preaching violence, corruption, and total inflexibiltiy to the idea of compromise.



    Quote Originally Posted by muslima
    The reason they voted for Hamas is because Hamas is better than the PA at social work and providing for their needs. The PA had to be kicked out, and good riddance.

    You should try to convince Hamas to change their charter. That is the best thing to do, and not demonise Palestinians, most of whom want what we all want, security and a safe country.
    The Arabs want a better life and thought that Hamas would do it for them. They also knew that Hamas would try to destroy Israel and didn't care. They get both sides of the coin with Hamas, and it looks like 60% of them want it. Bully for them. I fully support democracy in action. I don't have to support the results just the process.

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    Okay, Israel is created and Jews admited to live along with Arabs. They could be better with Jews, go forward faster, could create technologies, weapons and so on; only together. But Arabs in Israel well provocated and partly (99%) brainwashed by other Arabs. Blowing yourself and training your children to suicide must be really dumb. I'm imagining myself and my family to be a soldier on so-called-allah's (i don't believe any of it) way is soooooooooooooooooooo extremely dumb! I never seen a human from nepal blowing itself, Indu or Shaman to blow. These are all about the ignorance.

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    The "Palestinians" need to be encouraged to live in Jordan, which is the Arab portion of Palestine. They're a nuisance and there will be no peace as long as they're living inside Isael's borders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NewsGuy View Post
    This is the essence of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: Most of the Arabs want to bomb Israeli population centers.
    And Israel is unable to use any more bombs against the Arabs, because they used them all up bombing population centers in Lebanon.

    That's why the Leftist formula of giving the Palestinians more land from which to launch rockets into Israel, is dead wrong.
    Right. Forcefully taking away all of their land will make them want to bomb you less.

    Interesting, though, that when we see surveys like this, they rarely, if ever, get mentioned by those "peace activists" who claim to be so worried about the death of innocent civilians.
    Peace activists don't occupy themselves by escalating hatred, that's the purvue of hawks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    And Israel is unable to use any more bombs against the Arabs, because they used them all up bombing population centers in Lebanon.
    Rubbish! Israel never targeted civilians. Israel was fring back at places which Hizbullah fired his rockets and missiles deliberately at Israeli cities to murder Jews in the name of Jihad. Hizbullah placed his bomb factories, missile launchers inside populated areas to use them as human shields.

    Israel targeted these bomb factories and Hizbullah's headquarters which were located within these populated areas and if Israel wouldn't do that then there would be no Israel. And also Israel bombed the roads to prevent the delivering of the 2 kidnap Israeli sodleirs to Syria/Iran and to prevent from Sirya/Iran to deliver weapon to Hizbullah.

    And its funny when you all are talking. You all are slaughtering each other for tousands of years so don't preach us when we defend ourselves. And please tell me how much Germans and Japanese you killed in ww2? You dropped 2 atomic bombs and killed hundreds of thousands to save your asses by all right and then you preach Israel????

    Hizbullah was using the Lebanese population as human shields.
    IDF Aerial Video of Qana which damn Hezbollah

    Hizbollah Bunker Found Near UN Position VIDEO

    Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield'

    Official: Hezbollah
    used U.N. as 'shield'


    UN observer: Hizbullah using us as shields

    IDF: Hizbullah rockets strike UN observation post

    Lebanon: Myths & Facts (movie)

    CNN's Robertson Now Admits: Hezbollah 'Had Control' of His Anti-Israel Piece

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    Right. Forcefully taking away all of their land will make them want to bomb you less.
    Rubbish! It's aint their land. It never was! And besides, Israel went out of Gaza one year ago and what did we got in return? A Hamas government which main taget is to destroy Israel and hundreds of Kassam missiles that are been firied at Israeli cities from the places we evacuated.

    Not mention the fact that the Palestinians burnt the synagogues that we left in Gaza strip while screaming: "Today Gaza, tomorrow Tel Aviv."

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    Peace activists don't occupy themselves by escalating hatred, that's the purvue of hawks.
    Rubbish! The only ones who are occupying now in the world are the Arabs. They occupied 33% of the world by the power of the sword. We all hope that the Arab occupation in the land of Israel will come to its end very soon.

    "Peace activists" are the last thing that you can say about them. A man who consider himself to be a peace activist DOESN'T hang arround with Palestinian terriosits like your "Peace activists" are doing.

    These "Peace activists" are nothing but Pro Palestinian Terrorist Activists.

    Go and lern the history, young man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    And Israel is unable to use any more bombs against the Arabs, because they used them all up bombing population centers in Lebanon.
    Which population centers in Lebanon are you referring to? The office buildings under which Hezbullah was operating high-tech command bunkers? Or maybe you are referring to the residential buildings from which the Katyushas were fired into Israeli population centers like Haifa?

    As the war is now over, I wonder about the Arab mentality that not only cares nothing for the lives of innocent non-Muslim civilians , but also cares nothing for the lives of its own civilians which are used as disposable human shields in places like South Beirut and Qana.

    It's now pretty clear that Israel lost this war (not that the Arabs won -- they lost too), because Israel cared more about saving civilians in Lebanon than it did about saving civilians in Israel. Israel was mistaken to avoid inflicting civilian casualties in Hezbullah strongholds. Once the Islamists bombed Israeli cities, Israel should have simply demolished entire cities in the Arab world. Now the entire region and perhaps the entire world will pay the price for waging a half-hearted war against the terrorists in Lebanon.

    Right. Forcefully taking away all of their land will make them want to bomb you less.
    The whole concept of making the Jihadists want to kill fewer non-Muslims is mistaken. That will never happen, because the basic belief of Jihadists is that they must mass-murder all Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. The only way to combat the Jihadist movement is for the rest of the Muslim community to shun the al Qaeda, Iranian, and Palestinian Jihadists and fight them from within. But in reality, I am very doubtful that the global Muslim community will ever take the initiative to truly eradicate terrorism.

    What we do see, however, is that giving land to Arab terrorists in Gaza and Lebanon has brought two wars, not peace. And, it's important to keep in mind that the Jewish homeland is not Arab land. It is Jewish land that Arab terrorists have been brutally occupying. It is Israel that is under occupation in Arab cities like Haifa, Yaffo and East Jerusalem, as well as places like Gaza and the rest of the West Bank.

    Peace activists don't occupy themselves by escalating hatred, that's the purvue of hawks.
    Actually, the so-called "Peace activists" are ONLY concerned with spreading hatred and supporting terrorism. That's why there are no "peace" rallies to protest the daily Muslim vs. Muslim slaughter in Baghdad, no "peace" rallies to protest the Palestinian police firing live ammunition into the crowds of political protesters, no "peace" rallies to protest the suicide bombings and other terrorism against Jews. From what I can see, the so-called "peace activists" only take to the streets to protest any opposition to al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbullah and Iran.
    Last edited by NewsGuy; 10-03-2006 at 10:44 AM. Reason: Typo
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