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  1. #286
    daniitzhak
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    sunshine
    its not their job to consider neturei karta as jews or not.
    they are jews, no less than you. traitors, yes, yet JEWS.

  2. #287
    Elin
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossad View Post
    Why was my grandfather a radical Elin?
    Didn't you say?

    You obviously took religious education,sorry i am maybe more ignorant about islam than you because i take secular education. Religion never play a single role in my life,religion is something like from Mars to me.


    Well mossad,i am an extreme secular and i hate islamists more than terrorists. Because being secular means being a true compatriot, respecting my own history and culture,and being a Kemalist.And yes others are just traitors in my eyes.

    Both islamists and pkk terrorists and their supporters among the nation in SE are simply same in my eyes,both traitors.

  3. #288
    KettleWhistle
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniitzhak View Post
    KW
    you're an idiot.

    im sure that jews would give their students history books; that; have wrong facts. dont ya think?
    oh, im sure my grandma's a liar, and the iraqus ive been talking too. plus their families, etc.
    yep.
    Nope, I'm just saying that you're completely clueless to what's being discussed here. Do those Jews give their students books on proper spelling and grammar?
    sunshine
    its not their job to consider neturei karta as jews or not.
    they are jews, no less than you. traitors, yes, yet JEWS.
    So, it's your job?

  4. #289
    daniitzhak
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    im 17 and a half, and my english is REALLY good. would you not agree? 'guess not. oh, well.

    nope, not my job to call them jews. they *are* jews, not you nor any other man could clain they're not.

  5. #290
    mossad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elin View Post
    Didn't you say?

    You obviously took religious education,sorry i am maybe more ignorant about islam than you because i take secular education. Religion never play a single role in my life,religion is something like from Mars to me.


    Well mossad,i am an extreme secular and i hate islamists more than terrorists. Because being secular means being a true compatriot, respecting my own history and culture,and being a Kemalist.And yes others are just traitors in my eyes.

    Both islamists and pkk terrorists and their supporters among the nation in SE are simply same in my eyes,both traitors.
    When did I say my grandfather was a radical?

  6. #291
    mossad
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniitzhak View Post
    KW
    im 17 and a half, and my english is REALLY good. would you not agree? 'guess not. oh, well.

    nope, not my job to call them jews. they *are* jews, not you nor any other man could clain they're not.
    Yet you can claim they are. Who gave you that right hun?

  7. #292
    daniitzhak
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    mossad.
    now youre being ridiculous. they are jews, because they were born as such, they have not converted, on the contrary.

  8. #293
    mossad
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniitzhak View Post
    mossad.
    now youre being ridiculous. they are jews, because they were born as such, they have not converted, on the contrary.
    Yes they have. What they believe in isn't Judaism. Their faith differs from that of 99.5 % of all Jews. I think those 99.5 % should represent Judaism and not them.

  9. #294
    KettleWhistle
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniitzhak View Post
    KW
    im 17 and a half, and my english is REALLY good. would you not agree? 'guess not. oh, well.
    The proper grammatical form and and spelling of the above would be:

    KettleWhistle,

    I'm seventeen and a half years old. My English is very good. Would you not agree? I guess not. Oh, well.


    If you need a good textbook of proper English grammar and spelling, I recomment books by Diana Hacker. But only after you finish this one: http://www.amazon.com/English-Gramma...2871916&sr=8-2

    Feel free to pass this information on to your teachers. I suspect they will find them useful.
    nope, not my job to call them jews. they *are* jews, not you nor any other man could clain they're not.
    You mean "claim"? I'm not claiming anything. But aren't you being a little hyppocritical, even or a seventeen-and-a-whole-half years of age?

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    Like I said and Mossad has tried to point out many times, denying what happened to Iraqi Jews from 1930-1950 is like denying what happened in the Holocaust. If I told my Iraqi uncle that people say that Jews were treated well in Iraq before 1948 he might have a heart attack. Any time he talks about Iraq he starts tearing up, many of his family members were arrested(himself included even though he was below the age of 10) and killed, yet b/c one or two families lived well according to some, that means the whole community did. I guess we should give the Iraqis credit for only killing a few hundred Jews in Iraq, maybe we should honor them for that. And to compare life for Jews in Morocco to life for Jews in Iraq is even another joke.
    "It is cheap to attack Israel. I am certainly not going to make a cheap attack on Israel by howling in the woods with the rest of the wolves." - Geert Wilders

  11. #296
    KettleWhistle
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossad View Post
    Yes they have. What they believe in isn't Judaism. Their faith differs from that of 99.5 % of all Jews. I think those 99.5 % should represent Judaism and not them.
    mossad,

    Nobody represents Judaism, and nobody can possibly represent Judaism. Neturei Karta represent Neturei Karta. And Chabad represents Chabad. And Israel's Chief Rabbis, Yona Metzger and Shlomo Amar, represent, well, just Yona Metzger and Shlomo Amar.

  12. #297
    mossad
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    Quote Originally Posted by KettleWhistle View Post
    mossad,

    Nobody represents Judaism, and nobody can possibly represent Judaism. Neturei Karta represent Neturei Karta. And Chabad represents Chabad. And Israel's Chief Rabbis, Yona Metzger and Shlomo Amar, represent, well, just Yona Metzger and Shlomo Amar.
    True, but I wasn't talking about it from a Jewish perspective, but rather from a linguical one. "Jew" is a word and must have a meaning. The word cannot represent everything. I mean, a squirrel can't be a Jew. Not a leaf either. A Jew to most people that use the word (the whole world, practically speaking) is someone that believes in what most people think Judaism is. Now Islam is for example not Judaism. Neither is Communism, playing soccer or computer hacking. Neturei Karta are thus not Jews, according to the meaning of the word to most people. They believe in something else.

  13. #298
    daniitzhak
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    KW
    you know my english is very good, esp for a 17 year old; who lives in israel.
    thank you.

    yalla-
    heartattack? i guess your grandpa outta meet my grandma, and my family,m their friends, etc. oh, and my history etacher. and the writer of the history books.
    and denying? have i denied the farhud? I TOLD YOU THAT MY FAMILY HAVE SUFFERED FROM IT AS WELL. jesus.
    yet, yes, many jews there lived a GOOD life.

  14. #299
    daniitzhak
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    mossad
    a jew is a person that has a jewish mother. technically-he's a jew.
    they believe in the tora. thus, they are jews. (they are traitors, we all hate them, but yes, they are jews).

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    mossad
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    Quote Originally Posted by daniitzhak View Post
    mossad
    a jew is a person that has a jewish mother. technically-he's a jew.
    they believe in the tora. thus, they are jews. (they are traitors, we all hate them, but yes, they are jews).
    If you have a Jewish mother and convert to for example Islam, are you still a Jew?

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