Israel ranked as the worst brand in the world

[Cato]

Thats right.

How stupid would it be for me to run around saying that Syria just needs better PR?

Very, and you have no trouble understanding this.

You were saying.....

# of emergency sessions at the UN to deal with Genocide in Rwanda/Darfur/smashed Tibetan peaceful demonstrations/Russian excess in Chechneya/Genocide in Zimbabwe/Massacre at Hama of 25,000/ Soviet Gulags etc etc etc etc etc etc

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# of UN emergency sessions to condemn Israel for existing

Over 100

Israeli PR is not bad it is just underfunded to the point that it often can't even afford to run adds, however the major problem is Leftist anti-semitism manifesting itself in places like the UN.

[Mil]

Posted by the Ahmed the Syrian:

How stupid would it be for me to run around saying that Syria just needs better PR?

So how is Syrian dentist industry? Any concerns?

Very, and you have no trouble understanding this.

I say every Syrian should brush their teeth at least twice a day!!!! Unless of course the tooth paste gets contaminated by the Zionists.... then only once a day.


FLAVOR-FLAVE!!!!!!!!

[Reffo]

I'm not saying that the product is perfect but it's not faulty either. It's certainly no more faulty than other products (countries) who ever faced similar threats.

Unless of course you are saying that Israel is at fault (faulty) for not surrendering to the Palestinians and giving in to all their demands and reward extortion....

Killing a thousand civillians in Lebanon, bombing civilian infrasructure and continuing a brutal 40 yr occupation are bound to foster a negative impression.

Talking about PR as the problem is just burying your head in the sand.

I should have also added Hezbollah attacks and extortion too...

I mean if we listened to critics like you then we would all have the impression that Israelis just torture innocent Palestinians, kill Lebanese and tear wings off flies just for the hell of it.....I mean butter wouldn't melt in the mouths of your Palestinians and your Lebanese Hezbollah mates would it?

You are right though, it does take more than PR to overcome the efforts of you Syrians who stir things up in the Middle East and watch the fire works from the sidelines....with an innocent smile on your faces!

[Yala]

A Lebanese guy the other day wrote something like "if an Arab fails to make love to his wife on his wedding night he will find some way to blame it on the Israelis". That pretty much sums up the situation rather nicely don't you think?

[Thaer K. Hamed]

# of emergency sessions at the UN to deal with Genocide in Rwanda/Darfur/smashed Tibetan peaceful demonstrations/Russian excess in Chechneya/Genocide in Zimbabwe/Massacre at Hama of 25,000/ Soviet Gulags etc etc etc etc etc etc

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Are you sure about that?

# of UN emergency sessions to condemn Israel for existing

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[Parsi]

I should have also added Hezbollah attacks and extortion too...

I mean if we listened to critics like you then we would all have the impression that Israelis just torture innocent Palestinians, kill Lebanese and tear wings off flies just for the hell of it.....I mean butter wouldn't melt in the mouths of your Palestinians and your Lebanese Hezbollah mates would it?

You are right though, it does take more than PR to overcome the efforts of you Syrians who stir things up in the Middle East and watch the fire works from the sidelines....with an innocent smile on your faces!

This is exactly where the problem lies. In the eyes of many people exposed to the mainstream media this is how they picture Israel: "Soldiers with tanks and guns in desert aiming at innocent people, with women screaming on the other side..."

This picture can be changed with better PR and a more open-minded approach to criticism.

The more people visit Israel, the more it will become difficult for the media to maintain the biased picture.

Propagating the wrong picture of countries is nothing new. I have never seen a positive picture of, say Pakistan, on the British TV. The programmes always show dust, mud and the picture of hungry children chasing the reporters' cars, etc. This is how people would want to see Pakistan, and that’s exactly what the media give them and hence the word ‘grooming’

[Mediocrates]

Were any of the OTHER countries in the results NOT polled as well, like Israel? Seems odd that a tech heavy research company HQ'd in Washington would seemingly find nothing to merit a country where a big part of that tech investment capital goes.

[nbarzelay]

Are you sure about that?

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Hehe, yeah the UN only missed what was happening in Darfur for the past 20 years. It's good that the UN are so quick on their feet.

There are plenty of condemnations against Israel by the UN, ranging from holding military marches in Jerusalem to forcing Israel to stop defending itself against the PLO and Hezbollah, which number in the 25-30 UN resolutions dealing with just Lebanon, all initiated by Arab countries.

What was the point you were trying to make anyways? You're doing a crappy job at that.....

[Mediocrates]

Sorry but it's all bullsh***t. No one cares what happens to Sudan, least of all the UN. They are not going to do a damn thing and all this handwringing is for nought. The UN is never going to intervene physically in a country that doesn't want them there unless someone else can do all the heavy lifting like NATO in the Balkans. At best the UN can deploy some ceremonial blue helmets around their own understaffed field hospitals and whatnot in order to provide a good backdrop for tools like Christiane Amapour who can look stern yet sorrowful into the camera and complain once again how the root of all evil is the white man's distrust of Islam. I ran out of pity, mercy and compassion a long long time ago and I don't feel bad about it in the least.

[Khazar]

Theo
If the Jews were better architects and engineers why is it that their buildings fell into ruin without the aid of cannon and gunpowder?

Tel Dan
Early Synagogues in the Galilee
Sea of Galilee & its Ancient Sites
Arbel
Old Jerusalem

And so on..............

Some of the great world architects have actually been Jew's by the way.

Theo
The Khazars also sided with the Byzantines in wars against the Russ, Turks, and Persians, and no the Khazars did not once get into a war with the Arabs on their own, they would only declare war on Arabs when they attacked the Byzantine Empire

Wars against Turks? what are you talking about. Khazar's often had battle's with the intolerant, oppressive Byzantine's.

Theo
and I was just pointing out that the idea of the Byzantines being awful anti-semites is so stupid it is laughable
you probably only fail to see that out of national guilt of the Ottoman Empire rising by destroying the Byzantine Empire

Why is it stupid and laughable? do you realise the extent of Byantine Anti-Semitism? infact Roman anti-semitism is the source and influence of alot of anti-semitic lies, propoganda and hatred.

What is there to be guilty about seeing the end of the Byzantine Empire? it was great for Jews, no more blood-libels and leaders preaching anti-semitic calling for culling's and massacres everytime something went wrong.

Theo
While Shariah prohibits the construction of Synogogues

Please, stop being so ignorant, hundreds of Synogogues were built under Ottoman rule.

Theo
The Jews also had a choice of stay or leave

What utter cheek, they were Jewish lands the Romans occupied, looted and ravaged in the first place. You think you can take people's homes and then tell them they have a choice to stay or leave as if it's your rightfull place of residence.


Israel offer's so much, historical, religous, cultural, sun-sea-sand, nature tourism, its the most democratic environment in the middle-east making it great for investors, is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world with great hi-tech plants and faculties.

The only problem is the surrounding area, the neighbours.

Anyway, I never trust these kind of statistics, it included 24,000 people, you cannot represent the world with such a small number, plus it all depends who they asked, where they asked etc etc

[Mediocrates]

Israeli antiquities are in the word, not the building. Like the archeologists say, the Egyptians built with stone and wrote on paper, while the west asians built with mud but wrote on stone. That's why we know more about the Mesopotamians and Levant cultures than we do about the Egyptians even though the Egyptians left buildings everywhere. Moreover the pinnacle of Greek architecture was hundreds of years after the fall of the Judean kingdoms so relatively speaking, they're new. Jerusalem was sacked and burned almost two hundred years before the Parthenon was built. And from a technical perspective, Israel doesn't have the same kinds of massive limestone to use as raw materials that the Greeks did. Mostly they had basaltic stone which is terrifically hard to cut. So they resorted to more plastic techniques, like clay, adobe and whatnot, like Babylon.

[Theodikritis]

Khazar
Tel Dan
Early Synagogues in the Galilee
Sea of Galilee & its Ancient Sites
Arbel
Old Jerusalem

And so on..............

Lol you think those are more intact then the Parthenon? Besides had the Ottoman Army not blasted it with their Cannons it would still be standing in all it's glory, none of those things needed cannon to bring them down.

Khazar
Wars against Turks? what are you talking about. Khazar's often had battle's with the intolerant, oppressive Byzantine's.

That simply isn't true, the Byzantines had a constant and reliable ally in the Khazars, and they fought heroicly trying to protect their friend and ally.

Khazar
Why is it stupid and laughable?

Because it is ahistorical

Khazar
do you realise the extent of Byantine Anti-Semitism?

Constantine son of Leo Emperor of the Romans having a wife named Rivka

Khazar
infact Roman anti-semitism is the source and influence of alot of anti-semitic lies, propoganda and hatred.

Granting the Jews Saturday off and other special allowances on account of their religious obligations is a funny way to do that isn't it?

Khazar
What is there to be guilty about seeing the end of the Byzantine Empire? it was great for Jews, no more blood-libels and leaders preaching anti-semitic calling for culling's and massacres everytime something went wrong.

It was the most tolerant nation of the time period, and the Byzantines did no blood libels, and the only religious based cullings and massacreres was against Catholics which I concede was illogical, stupid, and rascist, and it nearly caused the Byzantine Empire to collapse.

Khazar
What utter cheek, they were Jewish lands the Romans occupied, looted and ravaged in the first place.

Yea in the First Century AD, however that is irrelevant because the Jewish Community of Greece dates back to Hellenic Times, the Roman Conquest of Judea just brought more Jews to Greece.

Khazar
Please, stop being so ignorant, hundreds of Synogogues were built under Ottoman rule.

Which was contrary to Sharia Law and so under Ottoman Law illegal, while there was nothing Illegal about the building of the Great Byzantine Synogogues. It was also legal for Jews to repair Synogogues, another Sharia prohibition.

Khazar
srael offer's so much, historical, religous, cultural, sun-sea-sand, nature tourism, its the most democratic environment in the middle-east making it great for investors, is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the world with great hi-tech plants and faculties.

I never doubted that, I simply stated that war is going on in Israel, and that the things you could only see in Israel are not as impressive as what is in Greece such as the Parthenon, and besides Greece is a major investor in Israeli Technology. If peace ever happens (Unlikely since Israel faces a Jihadist threat that will accept nothing less then it's total destruction) I will visit Israel, but I will not risk my life to do it, it simply isn't worth it while I could instead stay in my country and visit the Palace of Minos.

Khazar
The only problem is the surrounding area, the neighbours.

I agree being surrounded by Jihad loving Nations is a big negative, which is the one of the things I like about Mustapha Kemal (Disbaning the Ghazis), although I do hate the man with all my heart for his involvment in the Armenian Genocide.

[Theodikritis]

Israeli antiquities are in the word, not the building. Like the archeologists say, the Egyptians built with stone and wrote on paper, while the west asians built with mud but wrote on stone. That's why we know more about the Mesopotamians and Levant cultures than we do about the Egyptians even though the Egyptians left buildings everywhere. Moreover the pinnacle of Greek architecture was hundreds of years after the fall of the Judean kingdoms so relatively speaking, they're new. Jerusalem was sacked and burned almost two hundred years before the Parthenon was built. And from a technical perspective, Israel doesn't have the same kinds of massive limestone to use as raw materials that the Greeks did. Mostly they had basaltic stone which is terrifically hard to cut. So they resorted to more plastic techniques, like clay, adobe and whatnot, like Babylon.

I agree. I am not saying Israeli history is insignificant, or that Israel contributed nothing, and I am certainly not downplaying the significance of Judaism, what I am saying though is that the Architectural Accomplishments of Greece outdid those of Israel, which I think you agree with me on.

[Cato]

Are you sure about that?





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1. Yes I am sure a letter and an emergency session are not the same thing, the fact that you purposely try to claim they are to prop up an anti-semitic and overtly rascist and pro-Genocidal organization shows that you are no better then they are. Your article says nothing about an emergency session of the UN, or well any action.

2. There have been well over 100, and the fact that you dispute it just shows your ignorance.

Khazar and Theodikritis how did you guys manage to come up with arguing about the Byzantine Empire in a thread that has nothing to do with history?

[KettleWhistle]

1. That is just one of many polls done.

2. It includes countries known for hating Israel like Spain and Turkey

3. Delve deeper, El Al has cost Israel thousands of tourists by treating everyone like junk as they get off the plane into Israel

4. Do you want to visit a war zone? Media presents Israel as a war zone everywere there is no amount of PR work that can undo that.

1. Nevertheless there is no reason to believe the results are faulty.

2. So what's being done/ought to be done to educated people about the reality in Israel? You claimed that EU embrassies do some significant PR work. Where are the results?

3. The poll didn't include just tourists; most certainly the majority of respondents never been to Israel. (And in my opinion El-Al is just as bad as most any other airline. I travel often, and they weren't any worse than Alitalia, Israir, Swiss, or Turkish. Lufthansa was a notch better, but just a notch.)

4. So what are the PR efforts good for then?