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    Rune
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    What is Zionism today?

    I hear a lot of people call themselves anti-Zionists. But what actually do they mean by that?

    This is how I see Zionism: Until the creation of Israel, Zionism was the, mostly secular, ideologue that a Jewish state should be created somewhere. But since that became a reality in 1948, Zionism has merely become a support for the continual existence of Israel to live in peace and security amongst it neighbors. Anyone who doesn't think Israel should be wiped off the map is a Zionist. But that would make most sane people pro-Zionists.

    Is that how you see it too?

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    Aviva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    I hear a lot of people call themselves anti-Zionists. But what actually do they mean by that?

    This is how I see Zionism: Until the creation of Israel, Zionism was the, mostly secular, ideologue that a Jewish state should be created somewhere. But since that became a reality in 1948, Zionism has merely become a support for the continual existence of Israel to live in peace and security amongst it neighbors. Anyone who doesn't think Israel should be wiped off the map is a Zionist. But that would make most sane people pro-Zionists.

    Is that how you see it too?
    Zionism is also the realisation that the Jews constitute a nation of people in a modern political sense, not just a religious or ethnic group. After the Dreyfyss Affair In France, Jews began to wonder if they would ever be fully accepted as true citizens of other countries.

    Having a country of their own - a Jewish state - Jews can be Israeli as a national identity.

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    ygalg1
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    Zionism fundamentally religious. in the surface of reality where no G-d escorting the rise of a nation as in the bible, Zionism reformed and became also a secular ideology. cause you can't lean on faith alone, you need to be realistic. today Zionism is only a dream that yet came fullfil itself in full. this is in most reflects in religious groups, while seculars in most are cosmopolitans. they see any country that supplies, protects freedom of speech and human rights home.

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    psyops
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    I would say it's an anachronism. Israeli nationalism is a more apt and realistic description of what "zionism" means today.

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