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Again, you are instigating an un-necessary conflict Elin, Armenia does not have an anti-Semetic problem, the people who made a few bad remarks about Jews were fined and imprisoned:Originally Posted by Elin
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History of Jewish Community of Armenia
The Jewish community of Armenia dates back almost 2,000 years. Many historians date the arrival of the first Jewish settlement in Armenia back to the destruction of the First Temple. During the conquest of King Tigranes II the Great, Tigranes brought with him 10,000 Jewish captives to Armenia when he retreated from Palestine, because of the Roman attack on Armenia (69 B.C.E.). By 360-370 C.E., there was a massive increase in Jewish Hellenistic immigration into Armenia; many Armenian towns became predominately Jewish. During this period, however, the Persian Shapur II began deporting thousands of Jews to Iran.
Halakhic studies never prospered in Armenia, although there are a few references to the region in Jewish Hellenistic sources. During Medieval times, most of Armenian Jewry vanished as a distinct entity in the region, although many historians believe they became a part of the Kurdish Jewry. There is an ancient Jewish cemetery located in the region of Vayots Dzor, in the city of Eghegis, south and west of Yerevan. There are more than 40 tombstones dating back to the 13th century, 16 tombstones with Hebrew and Aramaic inscriptions.
Jews from Poland and Persia first began arriving in Armenia in the early 19th century. Since 1840, Jewish settlers established both Ashkenazic and Sephardic communities in Yerevan. Up to 1924, the Sephardic synagogue, Shiek Mordechai, was a leading institution among the Jewish community.
Ark in Yerevan Synagogue
During and after World War II, hundreds of displaced Jews moved to Soviet Armenia. The Jewish population of Armenia grew to approximately 5,000 people. In 1959, the Jewish population peaked in Soviet Armenia at approximately 10,000 people. Another wave of Jewish immigrants arrived in the country between 1965 and 1972, mainly intelligentsia, military, and engineers. These Jews arrived from Russia and Ukraine, attracted to the more liberal society. Today, the Jewish community has fewer than 1,000 citizens due to emigration and assimilation. Between 1992 and 1994, more than 6,000 Jews immigrated to Israel because of Armenia’s political isolation and economic depression. In 1995, the Chabad House was established in Yerevan. The Chabad House provides free meals, offers classes in Hebrew and Jewish traditions, and cares for the community elderly.
Rabbi Gershom Meir Berstein
The rate of intermarriage among Jews and Christian Armenians is very high. In an interview, Rabbi Berstein of the Yerevan Chabad described the Jewish community as “‘too small’ to be of great interest to most Jewish organizations.” Almost half of the Jewish population resides in Yerevan. Seven, Yerevan and Vanadzor have active Jewish community centers.
At the start of 2002, Rimma Varzhapetian became the president of the Jewish Community of Armenia. The only rabbi in Armenia is Rabbi Gershom Meir Berstein of the Chabad in Yerevan. In 2004, the Jewish community, through the assistance of Chabad, began producing kosher food. Slowly, the Jewish community is rebuilding itself in Armenia.
Status
The American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC) is very active in Armenia assisting the elderly, through the charity Orot Hesed. The JDC works through the Yerevan synagogue to provide finances for food supplies, fuel, and medicine. This program supports nearly 80 people.
Sunday School
The Jewish Community of Armenia (JCA) in Yerevan sponsors many programs for Jews of all ages. Some of these programs include: advanced education classes, a children’s chorus, and outreach work. In late 2002, the JCA published the community’s first newsletter. This publication helps to keep the small community aware of current events and informed of communal information, such as deaths and marriages.
The Jewish Agency for Israel (JAFI) maintains a Sunday school; a Hesed senior center, several youth clubs, and communal activities in Armenia. The Religious Society of Armenia also supports a second Sunday school and a summer camp, both located in Yerevan. Menorah, the Armenia-Israel culture group, conducts many activities in the community. Modern Hebrew has been taught at the state university since 1995.
Yerevan Synagogue
In 1992, the Jewish Religious Community of Armenia was established in Yerevan. This Chabad organization maintains a rabbi, the third Sunday school in Armenia and a Community Center for programs and gatherings. It also supports a summer camp and charity programs. There are weekly Shabbat services and holiday services held at the Yerevan synagogue. Since 1997, the Jewish Religious Community has published the newsletter, Koelet, to help keep the community informed.
There is also a small Jewish community in Sevan that occasionally holds services led by the head rabbi of the Yerevan Synagogue.
Anti-Semitism
Historically, Jews and Armenian Christians have had good relations. Both groups have ancient cultural and religious roots in Armenia that have helped them through modern persecutions. Nonetheless, Jews are considered aliens in Armenia and not full citizens.
Anti-Semitism does exist in Armenia, although it does not occur frequently. For instance, in February 2002, Romen Yepiskoposyan published an anti-Semitic book. memorial.
Because of Armenia and Turkey’s have poor relationship over time, much of the anti-Semitism in Armenia stems from the good relationships between Turkey and Israel and the United States.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...w/armenia.html
Moderators will close this thread too.
And Mr stay away from my thread,mods will close this thread,why don't you visit 1.5 Million's final thread instead,look what he says?
I told you these anti-propagandas are endless,if you continue to make anti-Turkey propaganda then you will get answer.
I hope mods will ban all armenian and turkish members,it's enough!
Antisemitism in the Turkish Media (Part III): Targeting Turkey's Jewish Citizens
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI)
The following is the third report in a series on the issue of antisemitism in the Turkish media.1This phenomena is directed not only against the Jews in general, it also targets Turkey's Jewish citizens, in the form of multiple attacks on Turkey's Chief Rabbi; insults to and offensive characterization of Turkey's Jews; and accusations of disloyalty, espionage, and treason. The media frequently accuse Turkish Jews of destroying the Ottoman Empire, carrying out the 'genocide' of Armenians, hatching sinister plots against Turkey, establishing a secular 'anti-Islamic' regime in Turkey; also blaming Jews for being rich and influential is often seen.
Publications by the Islamic terrorist organization IBDA-C,2which claimed responsibility for the November 15, 2003 bombings of two Istanbul synagogues, circulate freely in Turkey; dozens of pages in each issue are dedicated to virulently antisemitic literature. 3Books such as Mein Kampf,The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and The International Jew are high on Turkish bestseller lists, and are displayed prominently in the front of bookstores.
The following report also focuses on some of the intellectuals and liberal journalists in Turkey who have spoken out against this wave of antisemitism.
"Judaism is Synonymous With Treason"
Columnist Fahri Guven wrote in the Islamist daily Milli Gazete:4" […] The Ottomans saved the Jews from the hands of Christians, who murdered them along with the Muslims in Endulus [Muslim Spain]. When Russia and Hungary persecuted the Jews, again the Ottomans saved them. The Muslim Turks rescued Jews yet again, from the hands of Hitler, who was himself a hidden Jew […]. From the beginning, the Ottomans showed hospitality, seemingly even by allotting the best homes to the Jews – along the Bosphorus, in Istanbul's most luxurious area.
"And, characteristic of their savage, treacherous [nature], in return they [the Jews] first overthrew Sultan Abdulhamid and destroyed the Ottomans;5[then], like insects, they ate away at the Ottoman [Empire]; and as if this were not enough, they stabbed the Muslim Turkish soldiers in Palestine in the back.
"'Judaism' is synonymous with 'treason' […] They [the Jews] even betrayed God […] When God told them to bow their heads while entering Al-Quds [ Jerusalem], they entered with their heads up. The prophets sent to them, such as Zachariah and Isaiah, were murdered by the Jews […] In fact, no amount of pages or lines would be sufficient to explain the Koranic chapters and our Lord Prophet's [Muhammad's] words that tell us of the betrayals of the Jews. […]"
"Here is the Real Jew!"
Columnist for the ultra-nationalist daily Ortadogu Selcuk Duzgun, in an article titled "Here is the Real Jew," wrote:6 "Salamon [a Jewish name often used in a derogatory way] is on his deathbed. He asks his wife about each member of his family and wants to know if they are present. When the wife assures him that all his loved ones are beside him, he is angered and shouts at them for leaving the shop unattended.
"This is a clear example of what the real Jew is. While we read and laugh at our jokes about the Jews, they [the Jews] are enjoying themselves by fooling the entire world.
"[…] Oh my naive people – you have elevated so many of these [Jews], and you have given an identity to so many [who had none]. You have saved, protected, and fed so many of them!... […] and they have created the [country's] agenda and continued their march to [their] 'Promised Land.' While we were calling them Masons, Sabbateans, Rotarians, etc., they had the privilege of ruling our country. Whatever name we call them, we always are faced with the truth that they are the 'JEWS.'
"[…] We are surrounded. Wherever we look we see traitors. Wherever we turn we see impure, false converts. Whichever stone you turn over, there is a 'JEW' under it. And we keep thinking to ourselves: 'Hitler did not do enough to these Jews.'[…]"
Turkey 's Chief Rabbi Attacked, Reviled By Media
On August 17, 2004, the Islamist daily Anadolu'da Vakit, popularly known as Vakit, published a column by Abdurrahim Karakoc that lauded Hitler for his "foresight" and for "purging the bloodthirsty, swindling Jews" and also praised Osama bin Laden.7
In February 2005, the publication of the daily in Germany was banned by the German government because of its antisemitic incitement and Holocaust denial. The Turkish press reacted with attacks on and smears against the German government, particularly German Interior Minister Otto Schily.
On March 2, 2005, German Ambassador to Ankara, Wolf Ruthart Born, sent a letter to Turkish Press Council President Oktay Eksi, of the centrist, widely circulated daily Hurriyet, who had called Germany's ban on Vakit "the murder of the law." In it, Ambassador Born said that Vakit 's articles were 'inciting and disgusting' and that it would be better for the Turkish Press Council to focus on these inappropriate publications instead of giving legal advice to the German Interior Minister. Since then, the German government has approached Turkish Interior Minister Aksu to protest against Vakit 's ongoing attacks on Germany and its government.
At a May 18, 2005 press conference, German Interior Minister Schily said: "As you know, Anadolu'da Vakit was banned because of its virulent antisemitism. Then it began publishing articles attacking me and, lately, Prime Minister Schroeder. The Turkish government must also concern itself with the Vakit newspaper. […] This paper has depicted me, and also our Prime Minister, as neo-Nazis […] If the Turkish government does not have the necessary laws, they should create them."8
Following the August 17, 2004 publication of Karakoc's article in Vakit, the Turkish Chief Rabbinate sent a letter of complaint to several liberal columnists in Turkish newspapers, prompting a campaign of daily attacks and revilement against Turkish Chief Rabbi Izak Haleva by journalists and politicians who write primarily for Vakit.
The following are only a few sample excerpts from this campaign:
The Chief Rabbi must condemn Israel
On August 26, 2004, the headline of Vakit's lead story read: "The Chief Rabbi who criticizes '[free] thought' is indifferent to Sharon's cruelty. Turkey's Chief Rabbi, who criticized our writer Abdurrahim Karakoc in a letter he sent to some columnists, has never said anything about Israel's massacres that have turned into 'genocide.'"
On August 27, Vakit's headline, and a report by Kenan Kiran in the paper, read: "Still not a sound from the rabbi. Chief Rabbi Haleva, who sent a letter to journalists targeting our writer Karakoc, has not answered our questions for yet another day.
"The Chief Rabbi's letter prompted many reactions […]: "AKP MP from Manisa, Huseyin Tanriverdi, said: '[…] [The Chief Rabbi's] attitude that is disrespectful of free conscience is wrong. […] Those who call themselves 'men,' and especially the faithful, cannot be silent about the savagery in Palestine. Mr. Haleva must condemn Israel's inhuman massacres.
"MP Tanriverdi added: 'In the face of the existing barbarism and massacres, Mr. Karakoc has sought to stop this human tragedy by reminding [us] of historical facts. […] Mr. Karakoc has made very reasonable observations.'
"Chief Rabbi Haleva stated that he would send a written reply to [ Vakit 's] questions. Although two days have passed, the following questions remain unanswered: 'Do you consider Hitler cruel? Do you also consider Sharon cruel, knowing the world media's decision that the massacres he commits are similar to what Hitler did to the Jews? Do you condone the Israeli soldiers' aggression against Palestinian civilians?'"
Rabbi Haleva, if you do not stop Sharon, anti-Jewish voices may turn into anti-Jewish actions!
On August 29, Vakit 's Ilhan Toprak reported: "Turkish Health Workers Union President Mustafa Basoglu criticized Turkey's Chief Rabbi [in a letter he sent to him] for being disturbed at Karakoc's comparing Hitler and Sharon. […] [The letter read:] 'As a religious leader, Izak Haleva must make all the necessary efforts to prevent Sharon's negative attitudes […] If Sharon […] is not stopped, the voices being raised against the Jews […] might turn into actions. To prevent that, the Chief Rabbi must stop Sharon […]'
More Turkish politicians join in: Chief Rabbi must apologize
On August 28, the front page of Vakit read: "[...] Politicians are reacting to Chief Rabbi Haleva: AKP MP from Kahramanmaras and former President of Turkish Writers Association Atilla Maras said it was a crime for Turkey's Chief Rabbi to send letters of complaint to journalists against Abdurrahim Karakoc. MP Maras added: ' Turkey's Chief Rabbi Izak Haleva must condemn Israel and Sharon' […]
"Nurettin Aktas, AKP Member of Parliament from Gaziantep, said that Turkey's Chief Rabbi had no reason to be disturbed by Karakoc's article, 'Israel is perpetrating state terrorism […] The Chief Rabbi […] must warn Sharon and apologize to the Palestinian people. The world condemns Sharon, just like they condemned Hitler.'"
"Chief Rabbi, the Commander"
On August 29, in an article titled "Chief Rabbi, the Commander," Vakit columnist Huseyin Uzmez joined in: "[…] Why is it that one of the [Turkish] authorities does not come forward and say: 'You, [Chief Rabbi,] come here! Haven't you learned when and how to submit a complaint? How dare you cross your limits?'" […]
Chief Rabbi beats the drums!
On August 31, Hasan Karakaya added another article to the attack on Turkey's Chief Rabbi: "[…] It was clear that…the mallet beating these drums [the six journalists to whom Rabbi Haleva wrote] was in the hands of that [person], whatever his name is: Helava [derived from the Turkish word for 'sewage' or 'toilet'] or 'Haleva.'"
Turkish columnist: "Chief Rabbi's synagogues are Zionist bases"
On September 2, 2004, Vakit columnist Nurettin Sirin wrote: "[…] Firstly, the Chief Rabbi who uses his synagogues as Zionist bases must learn that no Jew has the right to teach a lesson on 'human rights' to [us], the children of the Ottomans. These [Jews], who fled Spain's massacres and found shelter thanks to Ottoman tolerance, have carried out nothing but treason and plots on Ottoman territory, and have [always] carried out the ugly designs of Zionism on this [Turkish] land.
"These people [the Jews] […] tried to 'Israelize' the Ottoman [Empire] from within, carrying out their treachery through some Zionist organizations. With the help of Masonic lodges, Lions and Rotary clubs, and political, academic, economic, media, and bureaucratic co-conspirators, they have woven a 'web of Semitism' on this Islamic geography.
"'Semitism' in this country [ Turkey] is the name of 'treason' against Islam and Muslims, and against all our national and moral values. […] Documenting this treachery is as easy as proving the laws of gravity. In face of this truth, the Chief Rabbinate and their allies' cries of 'antisemitism' and their fake claim to innocence are laughable.
"[…] Has he [the Chief Rabbi] ever condemned the genocide by the Jews, that he [dares] to talk of the so-called persecutions of the Jews? […]
"[…] It is these so-called innocent Jews who are responsible for the loss of our Ottoman [Empire], for the trampling of our sanctity, for the hanging of our forefathers, for the humiliation of all our beliefs, and for the ban on our women's covering [as demanded by Islam].
"[…] [Karakoc's] article will be an important contribution to the questioning of [the Jews'] sinister plots, satanic steps, and historic treason in our country. When the masks of these so-called innocent people and groups fall, we will clearly see the monster behind them.
"[…] At this opportunity, I would like to also place my signature under the article titled 'Foresight, Israel Shameless' written by my brother and friend Karakoc, and to express my willingness to be judged [as I stand] right next to him. God bless your pen and your heart, brother Karakoc… […]"
For more examples of the attacks on and revilement of Turkish Chief Rabbi Izak Haleva see Appendix I.
Turkish Columnist Warns: Last Chance for the Jews
Columnist for the mainstream secular liberal daily Aksam, Sakir Suter, wrote:9"In Turkey, there are 'sworn enemies' of the Jews. [But] Jews also have some friends, even if they are not 'sworn [friends]' […] Quite a few people [in Turkey] are pleased by their friendship sorrows and joys.
"Today, however, we are on the verge of saying 'there WERE' [in the with Turkish citizens of Jewish descent. There are some common [shared] historical past].
We will either cross-out this friendship or continue with a 'bad taste.'
"In Turkey, there is a big 'maybe' hanging in the minds of [even] those who [until now] did not see the Jews as 'enemies.'
"They [the Turkish Jews] have an obligation to show us that they are distanced from the terror that resulted in the death of thousands in Turkey [due to terrorism activity by the PKK, a separatist Kurdish organization]... and that the Jews are not 'plotting' against us [the Turks] together with the [Kurdish] elements in Northern Iraq, who definitely cannot be our friends.
"[…] The burden of proof is on […] Tel Aviv to show that they [the Jews] are not playing out any Israeli 'anti-Turkish plots in Northern Iraq,' as reported even by the foreign media. Instead of providing the required proof, making nasty threat-like comments against Turkey is ugly.
"[…] If they [the Jews] claim to be real friends of Turkey, the burden is not on the Turks, who have proven their friendship, but on the Jews, whose 'hostility' we are discussing.
"We, on our part, are offering one last chance before officially and openly declaring that the Jews are our 'enemy.'
"[…][Now] we have reached such a juncture that... millions in Turkey are all too eager to pour out to the streets and cry out: 'Death to Zionism!'... 'You [Jew]! Let us hear you [reply]!' 'You must either prove your innocence… or apologize [immediately] to the Turks, who took you for a 'friend' for over 500 years!"
Jewish Espionage
Columnist Suat Gun wrote in the nationalist daily Once Vatan:10 "Upon the discovery of an Israeli mole in the Pentagon, I remembered the book by the late General Cevat Rifat Atilhan, titled Suzi Liberman, the Jewish Spy…
"Cevat Rifat Atilhan was an officer, much valued by great Ataturk. His units fought in important […] battles [during WWI]. When the Arab-Israel war started in 1948, he joined that front with the 300 volunteers he gathered, and was successful in capturing a Jewish settlement from the enemy.
"Cevat Rifat Atilhan is an unequalled patriot, who informed the Turkish public of the 'Jewish threat.'[…]
"This present day espionage [in the U.S.] is an operation undertaken by the Jews […] who like a cancer virus have spread everywhere, destroying the American governmental system. In reality, the U.S. has been infected with a 'Jewish cancer,' and the Jews will bring about its death, demise, or destruction [whichever term you choose].…"
"Politics are Committing Adultery With Our Honor"
Liberal columnist Ayse Onal, formerly of the secular, Kemalist daily Aksam and who writes now for the Star Gazete, wrote an article protesting the Turkish media's accusation of the Jews for every disaster in the world. She opens with quotes by antisemitic writers:11
"335 children and teachers were murdered in Beslan by the Jews. The barbarism of 9/11 was a Jewish plot. Turkish society and family values are being destroyed by the Jews. It is the Jews who are cutting off heads in Iraq. They [the Jews] are so blinded [with hatred] that in order to conceal the Jewish finger [role] in all of that, they sometimes butcher [their fellow] Jews as well. It was them [the Jews] who bombed their own synagogues. And when their own families died, they shed false tears.
"The Jews are like a punching bag. Hit [them] and hit [them], as much as you can… Punch [them] as much as you want, with no fear, shame, respect or sense of boundaries… In any event, only about 15,000 Jews remain [in Turkey], and they have no voice to be heard.
"The Jews are a convenient, living shield for all immorality, all murders, savagery, and lies… If you place a Jew where there is barbarism or fraud, you have solved the problem…
"And knowing too well what would await them, nobody has the possibility, nor the courage, to ask, 'Where are the human rights and freedoms, values of equality, principles of non-discrimination with regard to religion, race, and ethnicity?' If the honor [of the citizens] is indeed under the protection of the [Turkish] constitution, this means that according to the State, Jews are either not human, or not citizens.[…]
A Nauseating Synagogue in the Land of the Prophets
In the Islamist daily Milli Gazete, Burhan Bozgeyik wrote:12"[…] We went to the city of Şanliurfa to visit friends and relatives. Before entering the city, we went directly to the garden of the revered Hajji Halil's father. We performed our noon prayers there. Our young brothers went all out to show us hospitality. We were in the place where […] Ibrahim Aleyhisselam [Abraham] lived. […]
"After food and conversation, we started thinking about our next stop, Adana. But, since we had come this far, we had to first visit the cave where Halilullah [Abraham] was born […] So we went to the Dergah Mosque, and there we performed our mid-afternoon prayers.
"I have told you all this as an introduction to our real subject: On the way back, our guide said, 'Just take a look here, look at this synagogue.' We looked: it was an impressive building. "This entire area was expropriated; this park is going to be expanded so that the synagogue will be prominent,' he said.13
"When we saw the synagogue, we lost all our joy. It wiped away the vision of the beautiful garden, the magnificent banquet, the mosque, the shrine […] Instead, this frightful building stood in front of our eyes like a ghost. What was a synagogue doing in this 'Land of the Prophets?' […] Where did this 'Jew-love' come from?
"[…] Frankly, we were extremely nauseated when we saw the synagogue. The food we had eaten stuck in our throats like a knot […]"
You started it, not me and I will make sure to let all the mods know, what kind of an instigator you are!
So should I post History of Jewish Community in Turkey?
Come on!
Someone called 1.5 Million started it,i thought all TUrkish-Armenian things closed in this forum but suddenly I faced 1.5 Million's propaganda thread again. And then i started this thread.
I really hope Mods will ban all armenian and turkish members,for a while at least,otherwise these propagandas will ruin the forum.
Turkey: Sign reads ‘Israeli murderers keep out’
Sign hung above clothing store in southern city of Alanya; Israeli tourist who photographed sign: Even on the way back to the cruise ship someone asked me if I was a solider and if I enjoy killing children
A sign reading “For Children killers Israelis No Sale, No Entry †welcomed Israel tourists who passed by a clothing store in the city of Alanya in south Turkey.
The city is frequented by many Israelis, who arrive mainly on cruse ships during the summer.
“We entered the store because I didn’t notice the sign, which was hung very high,†said Nimrod Buchman, 25, of central Israel, who was on a trip with his girlfriend.
Sign at Alanya clothing store (Photo: Nimrod Buchman)
“The Turks immediately recognize Israelis, and therefore they asked us if we are soldiers and if we are capable of murdering children. They told us to leave and did not let us go inside. I had to take a photo of the shocking sign.â€
When the vendor realized that Buchman had photographed the sign, an argument erupted.
“One of the salespeople began to chase after me and demanded to see what I had photographed,†Buchman said. “We argued for a while and then he began to curse, but when he understood that I was not about to give up the camera he left. We were very frightened, as were the other people present. Even on the way back to the cruise ship someone asked me if I was a solider and if I enjoy killing children.â€
“I will definitely never return to this city, despite the fact that is amazing†Buchman said. “There is an uneasiness that surrounds you here, and people look at you with contempt.
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If 1.5 million jumped from a bridge, would you do the same?
Are you in the 2nd grade?
ASK THEM AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
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what's with the insults, are you angry
Turkish Jews's there,why do you abstain to ask them? Because you know their answer will hurt you.what's with the insults, are you angry
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