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    Obama, from the U.S......

    Hello everyone....it is me, Orangeblossom.....Been a long time; been busy. Okay....I will move on, because I am HOPING that we get the Jewish vote in America to side republican this time.

    First, I would like to remind you AMERICAN-JEWS, that 99% of the hard-core Arabs vote Democrat. BIG mistake last election....we got a new Islamic Congressman who sides with CAIR and other radical Islamic groups. (remember those Imams who caused disturbances on the airline? They got off becuase of him)

    ...and we got a Hezbollah judge in Dearborn.......better NONE of you guys get a speeding ticket there; even me. If I would walk in with an LF cross, I'd be in jail.

    Second, the Democrats are highlighting someone they believe will win this presidential election & that is Obama.

    Obama is ISLAMIC! He is a liar. I don't care how great he looks on TV, but that is what he is. He was even taught in Madressa schools in Indonesia.

    Here is an article that I found...:

    http://mychristianblood.blogspirit.c...ound.html#more


    It is interesting to note, that Obama was taught the Wahhabism...which also does not give rights to non-believers. So, you had better start appreciating the rights you got now.

    And Americans would want THIS guy to be president? I DON"T think so! I'd rather have Bill Clinton back in a heartbeat.....& even though republican...I thought he was just fine.

    Finally, I don't care at all if this guy says he's christian or secular or this or that. In our current time, I would not have ANYONE holding an OFFICE - such as the presidential - that has Islamic past. Wouldn't trust them at all to FIGHT for MY rights.

    As long as I see videos, tapes, speeches, calling Death, etc.....and they are all from Islamic sources.....I'm defineatly NOT throwing my vote this way. And the way the media works.....sources from sites as such, are noteworthy.


    Note: THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!

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    It doesn't matter who will be next president Republicans or Democrats. So the Arabs will call Obama the next demon-emperialist and the Democrats will be the ones who are the "pigs and monkeys." It doesn't matter.
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    In America we have something called:Freedom of religion, so deal with it. The poor guy isn't even a muslim.

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    When a collective group of people.....

    When a collective group of people take a religion and USE it for things like 9/11, 3/11 Bali, India, Afghanistan, Dafur, Iraq, video taps, beheadings, 500 hundred chruches burned, unequal rights in the Middle East, censorship, lack of women's rights, make speeches that Islam will rule the world, have pictures of their RELIGIOUS flag over the White House, on and on and on......

    And the rest of the religous collective GROUP does not speak LOUD enough, like the Muslims people are in Lebanon....then you should realize MY point.

    As for me being in the West, I DO NOT want anyone with Islamic affliation to be president. This Obama guy is a fake. Just like the Islamic congresssman who ran UNDER a CHRISTIAN NAME, and not his ISLAMIC name! (Keith Ellision). Not only that, those Imams CREATED a disturbance on the planes - 50 witnesses and workers testify to it....and he gets them off. Thanks Keith!

    They are not assimulating into American culture, but removing traditions of the U.S. that have been in place for years. Here is an idea...they hate Halloween. The American kids LOVE it. They Love to take their costumes to school and show off. Oh, but we have to cancel the party because Muslims believe it is satanic. And ON THE DAY OF THE PARTY THEY DO NOT EVEN SHOW UP! So, don't pull this freedom of religion stuff with me...I see what is happening VERY clearly.

    Anyways, after this and more is done....you need to question why are the Muslims in the FREEST COUNTRY of the world are NOT protesting against them....but they support organizations like CAIR who want to STOP a ex-terrorist (who converted to Christianity) from speaking his RIGHT, which is freedom of speech. Who is STOPPING THEM FROM THE D.C. MALL? Do you NOT think they would be appaulded? But, where are they?

    No, in fact, when One Muslim wrote a letter against terrorism...what did the American Muslims of his Mosque do? When he showed up to worhip, he was surrounded and asked to leave in a threatening manner.

    It is very, very few Muslims who see things this way in the U.S. And I don't like a person, who was TRAINED in one of the WORSE madrasses - that is Anti-American, and NOT even mention it because he is running for President! I do not apologize, but I would NEVER trust this individual to run the U.S.A. It would be one thing if he came out and condemned it RIGHT OFF THE BAT...but he NEVER DID! And tried to hide it!

    And here is another point......In the U.S., they flock to it....demand the West to hold sensitivity classes...but yet, an Assyrian Christian must forge Islamic papers for work in Iraq. The Coptic Christians in Eqypt must watch their daughters from kidnapping...you want more? I've got a how bag of them. They come from homelands that are horrible to minorities, BUT DEMAND everything to be handed to them in the U.S. and other places, even though they lived under standards in their old dictating countries.

    So, you see, there is a line to it all. And if you can not see that line, then that is your problem...not mine. I wish that the Muslims of the U.S. would get out there and SUPPORT the Americans who are against terrorism...but they will RUN the STREETS against Israel, when HA started the war and continues to breed in Lebanon. They say one thing...then actually DO ANOTHER!

    I am anti-OBAMA, and I hope the Jewish COMMUNITY will for once stop siding their votes with the Arab Muslims, because it is the SAME Muslims who seek destruction of Israel. For peats' sake....The Arabs who support Hezbollah in America, vote democrat! So you see, they are actually voting WITH people who call them monkeys and pigs. It is a strange thing...especially when I know that most Lebanese - who are for democracy and freedom - voted republican.

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    What does Barak Obama have to do with anything?

    Also Keith Ellison has never changed his name. He uses a pen name when he writes.

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    I agree with orange. It's becoming stupid. Republicans are more Democratic then the Democrats. It's becoming radiculous. They are the Roosevelts and the Wilsons and the Kennedys....

    As to Obama.... it will definetly hit up. Myself I will either vote for Gulliani or Hillary. Did not decide as of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeblossom View Post
    Hello everyone....it is me, Orangeblossom.....Been a long time; been busy. Okay....I will move on, because I am HOPING that we get the Jewish vote in America to side republican this time.
    Orangeblossom, I am a Republican and while I agree with you regarding the Jewish vote, I would advise you to not count on it. We have always been our own worst enemies, voting for the wrong people and realizing when it is far too late. Remember, Jews overwhelmingly voted for Jimmy Carter. FYI, Persian Jews hate Jimmy Carter for what he allowed to go on in Iran, so to this day they are mostly Republican.

    In a day and age where some of the most anti-Zionist lunatics are Jews, where Jews attend a Holocaust denial conference and where Jimmy Carter is invited to speak at Brandeis, you can see we have serious problems within or ranks.

    I cannot for the life of me figure out how any Jew can support Hillary Clinton after she hugged and practically made out with Suha Arafat 2 minutes after Suha accused the Jews of yet another blood libel by saying: "Our people have been subjected to the daily and extensive use of poisonous gas by the Israeli forces, which has led to an increase in cancer cases among women and children."
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...tism/suha.html

    I cannot wait to cast my vote for Giuliani who has always been very honest about his utter disdain for terrorists. He once booted Arafat from a Lincoln Center concert in 1995. He got a lot of flack for that from knee-jerk terrorist apologists (especially in the Democratic party who were trying to pass Arafat off as a statesman) but still stayed true to himself later saying "I would not invite Yasser Arafat to anything, anywhere, anytime, anyplace. I don’t forget."

    First Lady Is Assailed By Giuliani on Mideast
    November 13, 1999, Saturday
    By ELISABETH BUMILLER

    DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani sharply criticizes Hillary Rodham Clinton for 'embracing and kissing' Suha Arafat after listening to Arafat excoriate Israel for using what she says were carcinogenic crowd-control gases in Gaza and West Bank.

    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...afat%2c%20Suha
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    When Rudy ran the first time, we used to say "What NY needs is a fascist!". Lucky for us, and sadly, that's exactly what we got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangeblossom View Post
    They are not assimulating into American culture,
    what is the American culture base upon?!
    but removing traditions of the U.S. that have been in place for years. Here is an idea...they hate Halloween. The American kids LOVE it. They Love to take their costumes to school and show off. Oh, but we have to cancel the party because Muslims believe it is satanic. And ON THE DAY OF THE PARTY THEY DO NOT EVEN SHOW UP! So, don't pull this freedom of religion stuff with me...I see what is happening VERY clearly.
    okey, you're being so paranoid and unreasonable here, why? the major groups who are speaking up against Halloween are not muslims in America, but are the Christian rights who take Peter and little Linda to Church instead of an Halloween party, or Pat Robertson and pastor John Hagee and his ilk who start preaching what an "evil" Haloween is a month before it begins, also the rabbi from the seattle airport wasn't a Muslim, or was he?the fact is Muslims don't oppose Chrismass(becasue they believe in Jesus as the promised one), i have also been to enough halloween parties to see how many persians, Arabs, Bosnians, africans, and asian muslims do in fact celebrate such occasions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    When Rudy ran the first time, we used to say "What NY needs is a fascist!". Lucky for us, and sadly, that's exactly what we got.
    He is a far cry from being a fascist, that's just a left-wing smear job. He's actually a social liberal and only tough on terrorists and crime. I don't see a problem with that. NY is still reaping the benefits of his accomplishments as mayor. Besides, aren't you from the Midwest

    Elect Hillary and expect Oslo 2, only this time there will be more concessions to the Palestinians and more dead Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalid View Post
    also the rabbi from the seattle airport wasn't a Muslim, or was he?
    You always have to drag the Jews into your arguments, don't you? The Rabbi was on TV and he explicity said he did not ask the airport to remove the Christmas tree, he only asked that they place a Menorah in the airport, one that he would donate and deliver. The airport overreacted and removed ALL the decorations and for that reason alone the Rabbi received many death threats. I don't care about a Menorah in an aiport whatsoever but the Rabbi was not doing anything out of maliciousness.
    "It is cheap to attack Israel. I am certainly not going to make a cheap attack on Israel by howling in the woods with the rest of the wolves." - Geert Wilders

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    You always have to drag the Jews into your arguments, don't you? The Rabbi was on TV and he explicity said he did not ask the airport to remove the Christmas tree, he only asked that they place a Menorah in the airport, one that he would donate and deliver. The airport overreacted and removed ALL the decorations and for that reason alone the Rabbi received many death threats. I don't care about a Menorah in an aiport whatsoever but the Rabbi was not doing anything out of maliciousness
    we are talking about America here, and Jews have always played an important role in the american culture, without them the context is lacking some part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yala View Post
    He is a far cry from being a fascist, that's just a left-wing smear job. He's actually a social liberal and only tough on terrorists and crime. I don't see a problem with that. NY is still reaping the benefits of his accomplishments as mayor. Besides, aren't you from the Midwest

    Elect Hillary and expect Oslo 2, only this time there will be more concessions to the Palestinians and more dead Jews.

    Born and bred in NYC. Rudy's first election was in response to the problems associated with Dave Dinkin's prior administration. BTW even if Rudy had be able to usurp the charter of the city of NY like he tried to in 2001 in order to get elected to a 3rd term, he would have lost. He lost support of the black community, the firefighters, cops and the city unions. And his joined at the hip corrupt cronyism with Bernard Kerik was starting to look like something out of the Sopranos.

    If you lived there during the 'tough on crime' era you would have seen Rudy help move the Times Square squalor west, away from the theater district into Hell's Kitchen, where people live. You would have seen cops focusing on writing jaywalking tickets while they abandoned the outer boroughs to crime. You would have seen the city completely lose track of white collar crime and at the same time antagonize some of the ethnic neighborhoods so much that in areas like Cloisters and 'white harlem' the cops just stopped coming around at all.

    It wasn't all bad and in truth that kind of hammer was what we needed. Everything was falling apart around our ears. The problem with Rudy is that believes his own press and thinks of himself rather like a Roman Emperor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    Born and bred in NYC. Rudy's first election was in response to the problems associated with Dave Dinkin's prior administration. BTW even if Rudy had be able to usurp the charter of the city of NY like he tried to in 2001 in order to get elected to a 3rd term, he would have lost. He lost support of the black community, the firefighters, cops and the city unions. And his joined at the hip corrupt cronyism with Bernard Kerik was starting to look like something out of the Sopranos.

    If you lived there during the 'tough on crime' era you would have seen Rudy help move the Times Square squalor west, away from the theater district into Hell's Kitchen, where people live. You would have seen cops focusing on writing jaywalking tickets while they abandoned the outer boroughs to crime. You would have seen the city completely lose track of white collar crime and at the same time antagonize some of the ethnic neighborhoods so much that in areas like Cloisters and 'white harlem' the cops just stopped coming around at all.

    It wasn't all bad and in truth that kind of hammer was what we needed. Everything was falling apart around our ears. The problem with Rudy is that believes his own press and thinks of himself rather like a Roman Emperor.
    Well I lived in "the boroughs" and noticed that the subway was a hell of a lot safer than before Giuliani and I noticed no increase in crime at all, in fact just the opposite. Hell's Kitchen has been a bad neighborhood for quite some time now and there are still sketchy areas around Times Sq/Theater District (9th ave and west to be specific)so that theory is not 100% correct. He did shut down most of those stupid peep shows in Times Sq. though which made it less appealing to pervs and weirdos. Also, I don't believe he ever had the support of the Black community, isn't that why he lost to Dinkins in the first place?

    Speaking of turning the other cheek in regards to white collar crime, wasn't it Giuliani who indicted Marc Rich and wasn't it your friend, Clinton, who pardoned him? Don't forget Giuliani also indicted Michael Milken, one of the most infamous white collar criminals ever.

    What I'm really curious about is how someone born and raised in NYC is able to live in the Midwest. I am really struggling out here in Cali.
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