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    KettleWhistle
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    Sheikh Salah incites to violence and threatens the State's security... and walks free

    So where are all those leftists (who are directly complicit in the murder of these people: http://www.geocities.com/israeli_eyes/) that say that every right-wing activist that talks badly about Israeli politicians and government workers should be jailed for incitement? Apparently, when we are talking about genuine incitement, rather than a form of free political expression, they are nowhere to be found to demand that Israel puts these inciters in jails, where they belong. And I don't mean the typical Israeli jails that have air-conditioned rooms, satelite TVs, PlaysStations, showers, food fascilities open for use 24/7, etc.

    Sheikh Salah calls to renew riots Saturday
    Islamic Movement leader summons Muslims to Jerusalem to continue protesting construction near Temple Mount; thousands of demonstrators in Nazareth wave signs declaring ‘Israel has started world war’ Sharon Roffe-Ophir Published: 02.09.07, 20:21
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...363096,00.html

    After a day of riots and violence in Jerusalem over Israeli renovations near the Temple Mount, leaders of the Islamic Movement summoned its followers to Jerusalem to continue protesting until the construction is called off.

    Sheikh Ra’ad Salah, head of the Islamic Movement’s northern branch, addressed a crowd of thousands in Nazareth Friday evening, saying, “Know that the Israeli establishment, which wants to conquer al-Aqsa, has already started to destroy part of the mosque.”

    Israel claimed the construction work at the Mugrabi Gate near the Muslim holy site was aimed at shoring up a rickety bridge.

    “A few days ago (Israel) started to destroy important and holy elements to the Muslim world, from the era of Salah a-Din,” Salah charged.
    Shortly after Jerusalem police managed to contain the riots Friday afternoon by storming the Temple Mount, some 5,000 protestors marched in Nazareth demanding the construction be stopped.
    The demonstrators waved signs that declared “Israel has started a world war,” and waved PLO and Islamic Movement flags.

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    Sheikh Ra'ad Salah with protestors (Photo: Hagai Aharon)

    Salah, the central orator at the rally, threatened the Israeli government: “You are playing with fire, and whoever plays with fire will get burned in the end. Your construction will damage al-Aqsa, and whoever damages al-Aqsa – we’ll destroy his house.”
    As the rally drew to a close, Sheikh Salah called on the crowd of thousands to come to the Temple Mount Saturday to continue protests.
    “We are standing ahead of difficult days, and we must be prepared for some difficult events,” he declared. “We are ready to protect al-Aqsa every day and every night.”
    Salah’s deputy, Sheikh Kamel Khatib, promised the crowd, “Jerusalem will be the capital of the Islamic nation.”

    He called on Arab countries to stand up to the occurrences in Israel, and criticized them for failing to interfere.

    “What is going on with you?” he called. “You are doing nothing. It cannot be that you as the leaders of the Arab world are not raising your voices in protest.”

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    Raed Sallah's open calls for violence violate at least half a dozen Israeli laws. At the very least, he should be indicted for incitement to violent rebellion (hasata le-mered).
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    What laws does he violate?

    I understand when an Arab MK says this and you guys say he is violating the Law, but this guy is just a private citizen isn't he?

    His views are reprehensible I agree with you on that but doesn't Israel have freedom of speech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodikritis View Post
    What laws does he violate?

    I understand when an Arab MK says this and you guys say he is violating the Law, but this guy is just a private citizen isn't he?

    His views are reprehensible I agree with you on that but doesn't Israel have freedom of speech?
    Incitement to violence is not a protected free speach anywhere.

    As a side note, Israel is not a free country, and does not have legally protected freedoms of speach like pretty much all the Western nations and most others. Here people may be jailed for talking badly about political leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodikritis View Post
    What laws does he violate?
    Like I said, incitement to violent riots is a criminal offense.

    I understand when an Arab MK says this and you guys say he is violating the Law, but this guy is just a private citizen isn't he?
    He is the head of the Islamic Movement, Israel's largest Muslim organization. And private citizens have been prosecuted for less in this country. The Zo Artzeiny movement activists got jail terms for blocking roads- this guy openly provokes and leads violent pogroms.

    His views are reprehensible I agree with you on that but doesn't Israel have freedom of speech?
    Yes we do. However, what Sallah does is well outside the limits of protected speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Womble View Post
    Like I said, incitement to violent riots is a criminal offense.


    He is the head of the Islamic Movement, Israel's largest Muslim organization. And private citizens have been prosecuted for less in this country. The Zo Artzeiny movement activists got jail terms for blocking roads- this guy openly provokes and leads violent pogroms.


    Yes we do. However, what Sallah does is well outside the limits of protected speech.
    Ok understood now, although over here there are plenty of calls for riots by the Muslim Minority which never get punished so I just assumed things would be the same in Israel.

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    I think this loser was indicted today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yala View Post
    I think this loser was indicted today.
    He got 90 days for inciting violent riots that materialized and resulted in injured policemen. The people he incited were throwing rocks and Molotov cocktail into police and regular people. And he gets 90 days in the comfort of Israeli prisons where they get private showers in each cell, air conditioning, food products to cook their own food, cell phones, cable TV, and playstations.

    Meanwhile Jewish activists often get detained for months because they called some politician a bastard in a conversation with somebody. Ever heard about Tatiana Soskin? She got three (3) years in jail for drawing this: http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drawingvp5.jpg
    Itamar Ben-Gvir was criminally procecuted for (rightfully) calling a Meretz MK a murderer: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...261350,00.html

    Yet, the man who conducts real incitement gets a token sentence that's nothing short of a slap on the wrist.

    Freedom of speach in Israel? Don't kid us, Womble.

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