Israel Must Stop

[Gettingfedup]

From Reuters 11.20.01:

>GAZA (Reuters) - Israel demolished Palestinian houses in Gaza >Tuesday and said it would build new homes for Jewish settlers >in the West Bank city of Hebron, a day after the United States >announced a new Middle East peace drive.

>Three Palestinians were wounded in the fresh violence in Gaza, >hospital officials said, underlining the difficulties U.S. envoys will >face when they arrive in the coming days to prod peace moves >forward.

>Israel also said it would replace mobile homes in the Jewish >settlement in divided Hebron with concrete houses, despite >Secretary of State Colin Powell's call to halt settlement >construction amid nearly 14 months of violence.

Again, Israel is pouring gasoline on the fire. Take note of Colin Powell's call to Israel to halt settlement construction. Will Israel heed this request? No. It's about time our administration has said enough is enough. I'm sick of my country (US) backing Israel while they continue to settle in Palestinian territories. Finally the international community is starting to look at this situation in a realistic manner. Israel must clean up it's act, or be isolated.

[Robert Furst]

Israel should have never tried to get the Arabs to stay in what is now Israel. But as guests they should learn to behave themselves or asked to leave.

[L@mplighterM]

I think gettingfedup should read his/her history books. Perhaps then he/she would get a handle at what's happening in Israel. Powell is not the one who is going to live among the Arabs, so who really cares what he says. I dont !!! It's easy to fix a problem at someone elses expense. Any of the western countries wouldn't put up with the palestinians ****.

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by L@mplighterM
Powell is not the one who is going to live among the Arabs, so who really cares what he says. I dont !!!

Unfortunately, many people and governments care very much what Powell says.

[Wheelman]

He is right though... If the Canadians or the Mexicans were anything like the Palestinians we would kick their asses so fast the French wouldn't have time to sneer properly.

Screw Palestine... Isreal needs to put some arty in place and start shelling the crap out of them anytime they even think of making a suicide attack.

[humanitarian]

First of all, the reality of the situation, and any astute high school student can recognize this, is violence perpetuates violence. This FACT is not even debatable. As long as the state of Israel is content to keep its' repressive boot on the neck of Palestinian self-determination and sovereignty, you can expect more and more suicide bombings. And rightly so. Honestly, how would you react if the roles of this trite, juvenile, and potentially destructive situation were reversed? It's also indicative of a deadly malaise that someone like Sharon (who should be put on trial for crimes against humanity) can be lauded such that he is. As for equating the anti-racism conference with anti-semtism, that is just an absolutely absurd and racist self-defense mechanism in it's own right. Seriously, it's high time that Israel (and by this I am in no way referring to the average hard-working citizen) accepts even a minuscule degree of accountability. Everyone is SICK AND TIRED of living with a continual threat of large scale war. Sharon should swallow his arrogant pride and put an end to this madness so that the rest of us compassionate human beings can get on with real living. It's THAT simple.

[Wheelman]

Originally posted by humanitarian
First of all, the reality of the situation, and any astute high school student can recognize this, is violence perpetuates violence. This FACT is not even debatable.

That is quite possibly the most moronic opinion that I have ever seen someone try to pass off as fact. Violence does perpetuate more violence in some instances but in the case of complete annihilation it certainly does not.

I find it amazing that you destroyed your entire reply with your first two sentences.

[L@mplighterM]

Couldn't have said it better myself Wheelman. I think humanitairian article is BS. Dead men dont talk and I dont imagine they do much more. If Sharon was like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc. the Arabs wouldn't even fart. In any events they are a bunch of ****** cowards, all the old bastards are afraid to die, generally they leave that to the youth.

[Wheelman]

The Arab Palestinians would have all of us, especially those of us in the West, believe that they are just peace loving people, and that the Israelis, especially Ariel Sharon, are big bad monsters.

The truth is that if Ariel Sharon hacked every last Arab Palestinian in existence up into tiny pieces with a dull hatchet, he would look like a girl scout compared to the stuff the so-called peaceful Muslims have done.

Ask the Serbs. I hope we don't treat Israel the same way we treated them.

[humanitarian]

Wow, truly stunning. It seems I'm being attacked by a couple of pre-schoolers who cannot read. I said ' The reality of the situation.....' Referring, of course to this situation we are discussing, namely, the Israeli / Palestinian situation. And in this PARTICULAR instance, yes, violence does perpetuate violence. Actually, how long has this charade been going on for now? The fact that Wheelman can construe an objective statement as being a sweeping generalization is stultifying. Honestly dude, you have alot of gall to prattle on about moronic statements when you lack basic comprehension skills. And L@mplighter is right up there with you. I'm afraid I fail to recognize when exactly I compared Sharon to Hitler, Stalin, or Mao. I said he was a war criminal. Check the track record if either of you have any interest in the truth. Ridiculous.

[Wheelman]

Originally posted by caribakam
... BUT DOES HE HAVE THE MEANS? THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT PROFITTED FROM THAT ACT ARE THE ISRAELEES, CERTAINLY NOT THE ARABS.

Ah yes, the we're too stupid and poor to do such a thing defense. Israel lost more people in the trade center than they have in any one suicide bombing to date.

Wait, why am I even bothering to argue this point with you. Just shut up and take your medicine.

[Wheelman]

Originally posted by humanitarian
Wow, truly stunning. It seems I'm being attacked by a couple of pre-schoolers who cannot read. I said ' The reality of the situation.....' Referring, of course to this situation we are discussing, namely, the Israeli / Palestinian situation. And in this PARTICULAR instance, yes, violence does perpetuate violence.

Look at the slobbering moron calling me a "pre-schooler"!

Hey moron, the "reality of the situation" is that the violence that the Palestinians have seen thus far is not enough. They have the luxury of retaliating against a few missile attacks, yet they would not feel so froggy should they suffer a few weeks of shelling with some 155's or the proper deployment of a low yeild nuclear device. The IDF is a stronger fighting force than your own, Humanitarian. They can and should drive the Palestinians out of Israel and back to Jordan where they belong.

The "reality of the situation" is the Palestinian charter itself calls for the complete destruction of Israel. They teach their children to murder and pilliage Jews in the name of their god. Why should the Israelis show them quarter? Why they put up with the crap they do is a mystery to me.

The "reality of the situation" is that there is already a two-state solution and it has obviously failed. Jordan was created in 1922 as a state for the Arab Palestinians.

The "reality of the situation" is that Arabs are animals that cannot even live with themselves. Why should Israel have to accept rejects that aren't allowed in their own state?

Pardon me, Humanitarian, but don't start telling me your version of "reality" until you demonstrate a firm grip of it.

[humanitarian]

Hey, thanks. You've just succinctly demonstrated:
a) your ignorance
b) your racist tendencies

Also, I won't be posting here again. I was interested in meaningful, intelligent discourse, and I ain't seein' it. Your bigoted attitudes are a big part of the problem. **** off.

[L@mplighterM]

Is the coffee finished yet? I think it's fair to say that more than three quarters of Palestinians suppot the Hamas and other terrorist organizations. What makes their day is hearing that jews have been killed. At this point I think Arafat is senile and I dont think he knows what a bathroom is at this point. Clued out !!!He isn't the leader(not that I ever saw him as one) of nothing anymore as a matter of fact I dont think he even knows what the word means. I dont feel sorry for Arafat and as a matter of fact I think he should be put out of his misery. His own kind will most likely do him the favor one of these days, they've tried before.

Sharon is getting old and he keeps on repeating himself. I dont even know how many ultimatums he's given Arafat, I've lost count. At some point Sharon should figure that Arafat isn't listening. I dont know how he's viewed in Israel, I dont see him as a particular strong leader(still 1,000,000% stronger than Peres). It's easy to criticize someone, but really a few targeted killings and a few old vacant buildings does that even the score. The buildings looked to me like they were ready for demolition. At least Israel finally got the PR machine working.

Dont even ask what I would do because you dont want to know. Let me just say I don't take kindly to being stalked or living in fear.

Oh yeah! If you do come back for a peek humanitarian read your own statements and then go figure.

[aid]

Originally posted by humanitarian
And in this PARTICULAR instance, yes, violence does perpetuate violence. Actually, how long has this charade been going on for now? Ridiculous.

You have mentioned the word "violence" 3000 times. And Sharon 5000.

I am wondering if any history has taken place before Sharon.

Who wa the previous PM of Israel? And was there violence at that time?

How long has this charade been going on for now?

Over a hundred years of Arab terrorism and rejection, that's how long.

Your accusations ridiculous?

You bet.