"Loyal" Arabs

The Israeli Guy · 03-20-2007, 08:28 AM

This group of people should get kicked out of Israel as soon as possible:

'28% of Israel's Arabs deny Holocaust'

More than a quarter of Israel's Arab citizens believe the Holocaust never happened, and nearly two thirds of Israeli Jews avoid entering Arab towns, a poll by an Israeli university showed Sunday, demonstrating the poor state of relations between the two communities.

The poll, conducted by Sami Smoocha, a prominent sociologist at the University of Haifa, showed a wide gap of mistrust, anger and fear between Israel's Jewish and Arab citizens.

In its most dramatic finding, the poll showed that 28 percent of Israeli Arabs did not believe the Holocaust happened, and that among high school and college graduates the figure was even higher - 33 percent.

According to Smoocha's analysis, radicals in the Arab world believe the Holocaust to be a political event, and many feel that by denying it they are expressing opposition to Israel. Full article inside

Half of Israeli Arabs justify Hizbullah kidnapping

Prof Sammy Smooha from Haifa University finds surprising support for Shiite organization among Israeli Arabs. 'The Katyusha rockets endangered them too,' he says

Almost 50 percent of Israeli Arabs justify Hizbullah's kidnapping of soldiers Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, and 90 percent regard the IDF bombings in Lebanon during the last war as war crimes.

Moreover, the vast majority of Israeli Arabs continues to express anti-Israeli views, showed a survey conducted by Haifa University's Dean of Social Studies Sammy Smooha: Some 48 percent justify the launching of rockets at Israel by Hizbullah during the last war. Only 44 percent thought it was a war crime. Full article inside

KettleWhistle · 03-20-2007, 10:26 AM

In its most dramatic finding, the poll showed that 28 percent of Israeli Arabs did not believe the Holocaust happened, and that among high school and college graduates the figure was even higher - 33 percent.

Waiting for leftists to argue for more education for the Arabs.

**Mediocrates** · 03-20-2007, 10:30 AM

28% of Leftists in the US openly state that while it happened either they deserved it, it was unavoidable or so what. If you look at only the internet presence of leftists the numbers climb into the 70's.

KettleWhistle · 03-20-2007, 10:36 AM

So? I say so what. In place where I grew up, every 1 out 5 of my neighbors would've been glad to drag the Jews out onto the streets and club them to death right then and there. Another 50% of the population would've gladly joined in or would've stood on the sidelines and enjoyed the show. So what? There is nothing out of the ordinary about that or about Holocaust. Not in Europe.

takeo · 03-22-2007, 03:53 PM

Azerbaidjan isn't Europe, it has as much in common with France as Guatemala has with France...
About Israeli Arabs what do you expect if you threat a people like second-rate citizens for decades on a row? The Israeli Arabs are the "Jews" in their country, the despised hated minority different from the rest.

**Mediocrates** · 03-22-2007, 04:46 PM

Class problems exist all over the world. Ever spoken with a Mestizo in central America? Holding out your evil yids as something uniquely subject to approbation is racist.

**Yala** · 03-22-2007, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Mediocrates

Class problems exist all over the world. Ever spoken with a Mestizo in central America? Holding out your evil yids as something uniquely subject to approbation is racist.

next time try not to take the bait

KettleWhistle · 03-23-2007, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by takeo

Azerbaidjan

??? Who was talking about Azerbaijan?

About Israeli Arabs what do you expect if you threat a people like second-rate citizens for decades on a row?

I expect that they would put diapers on their heads, mount their camels and donkeys, and head out East. And they are not treated like second-class citizens, nor should they be. They ought to be treated like the third-class scum that they are.

IGS · 03-25-2007, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by KettleWhistle

??? Who was talking about Azerbaijan?

I expect that they would put diapers on their heads, mount their camels and donkeys, and head out East. And they are not treated like second-class citizens, nor should they be. They ought to be treated like the third-class scum that they are.

VERY much agreed.

nbarzelay · 03-26-2007, 02:19 AM

Why treat them at all? Pull a Kuwait-style deportation of the Israeli Arabs/Palestinian Arabs once the next war starts...I'm sure there would exist a slew of these Israeli Arabs that will conspire with the next invading Arab/Iranian armies.

Tired of paying for lazy Arab families with their 10-12 kids when they collect their welfare. How about this idea, try having less kids so you can actually support your family!

takeo · 03-27-2007, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by nbarzelay

Why treat them at all? Pull a Kuwait-style deportation of the Israeli Arabs/Palestinian Arabs once the next war starts...I'm sure there would exist a slew of these Israeli Arabs that will conspire with the next invading Arab/Iranian armies.

Tired of paying for lazy Arab families with their 10-12 kids when they collect their welfare. How about this idea, try having less kids so you can actually support your family!

at last showing your true colours

takeo · 03-27-2007, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by KettleWhistle

??? Who was talking about Azerbaijan?

I expect that they would put diapers on their heads, mount their camels and donkeys, and head out East. And they are not treated like second-class citizens, nor should they be. They ought to be treated like the third-class scum that they are.

I respect your honesty...
But just imagine anyone would say this about Jews... it is pure malicious racism and it is sympthomatic for the situation of Israel's largest minority.

nbarzelay · 03-27-2007, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by takeo

at last showing your true colours

How's throwing out collaborators a problem? Those that don't collaborate stay obviously, or can't you derive that from the post?

I have a problem, as would anybody, supporting Israeli Arab families that account for over 50% of the welfare recipients (NOT including the bedoins since they rarely apply for welfare) while only constituting 15-16% of the entire population. Time for them to get their act together and stop trying to overpopulate Israel with their ridiculous sized families.

The problem with you is that you consistently revise history, fabricate, and apply double standards to this conflict in the ME in order to suit your needs. Then you have the audacity to judge me? I say straight out what I think, you shroud your anti-Jew/Semitic/Israel sentiments through somewhat shrewdly concocted propaganda. I say somewhat since you have contradicted yourself countless times on this forum.

'Strong as bamboo' as your nick implies? I say your head is as thick as bamboo.

KettleWhistle · 03-27-2007, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by takeo

I respect your honesty...
But just imagine anyone would say this about Jews... it is pure malicious racism and it is sympthomatic for the situation of Israel's largest minority.

No, this is not racism. This conflict is not about race (of which the Arabs are the same as the Jews), but about land. Oh, and many did say the same about Jews. And that's Jews who were not trying to take over their countries and turn them into Jewish states. Guess what those Jews done?

The Baron · 03-28-2007, 06:28 AM

Besides, all the countries around Israel have such an good record with minorities rights ! (there is ONE country in Middle East with minorities)

Note that medias apparently find WONDERFUL, TOLERANT, that Iran have a tiny jewish community under heavy control (and surveillance). I have the nagging inspection that there are double standards.

Israel grants actual rights to it's arab citizens : not enough
Iran allow it's Jewish population to live : WOW !