Originally Posted by Shotgun Styles
a hundred a thousand. who's counting.
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a hundred a thousand. who's counting.
Yeah, this guy is incredibly ignorant. He acts like we arrived in 1945 and kicked the Arabs out of their homes. I'll bet he doesn't know that there has been a continual Jewish presence in the land since before 1200 BCE. Even during the Babylonian exile, the "Am ha-Aretz" were still in the land. And we did NOT all leave after the Romans destroyed the Temple nor even after Bar Kochba's revolt. We remained the majority in the Galil for at least six more centuries. There has been a continual unbroken Jewish presence in Peki'in since the time of the 2nd Temple. And the population of Ottoman "Palestine" was 5% Jewish and had a Jewish majority in Jerusalem before the first Zionist set foot on the shore. Or that we had been settling there peacefully since the early 1880's and were roughly a third of the population when the partition plan was voted on. We were the majority of the population in the territory given to us by the UN.
I like the part where he writes that the Zionists "murdered and displaced nearly a million people" trying to make it sound like we are on a par with the Nazis.
However, only 10,000-to 15,000 Arabs died in the fighting (which also took the lives of over 6,000 Israelis). The Palestinian forces were aided by soldiers from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, & Yemen. Given that we defeated them in the war, these figures are not unreasonable.
Concerning the refugees, the final UN estimate of the number of refugees was 711,000. I like how he increases that number 37% by rounding it up to a million.
What has to be kept in mind is that these people are refugees because of a war they started. They tried to throw us into the sea. If they had been successful, all of Israel would have been like the Gush Etzion.
Also, most fled not because Jewish soldiers showed up and their door and physically kicked them out. The vast majority fled as the fighting approached, out of fear due to propaganda by their own side, some were even ordered out so that Arabs wouldn't be accidently killed when the hated Zionists were being murdered.
This guy needs to get a clue. I'm sure you have noticed that when it comes time to talk details, he disappears.
"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"
"Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).
But, there's already the country of Jordan, which is nearly 75% of the former Palestine from the early 1920s!
Are they forgetting that?
Forget it already, this Shotgun guy has done another disappearing act and will return in a few weeks time again to harass everyone on this site with the same rubbish. Nothing's changed...
They didn't "forget" anything, because they never knew anything in the first place. How many westerners claiming to be pro-Pal knows of the above? My guess is less than 5%. That's why it's best to ignore the trolls when they fester here.
By the way, Jordan is more like 78% of the original Palestinian mandate. And no one seems to know either (or care) that in the 1920's this Pal mandate was "settled" by Saudi Arabian Hashemites and ethnically cleansed of Jews....
"It is cheap to attack Israel. I am certainly not going to make a cheap attack on Israel by howling in the woods with the rest of the wolves." - Geert Wilders
He won't.
Jews Are Behind the Darfur Genocide
In an interview with a Saudi newspaper, the defense minister of Sudan was
asked, "Are the Jews behind the Darfur conflict?"
His answer:
Jews behind Darfur conflict.
Sudan's defense minister, Abdel Rahim Mohamed Hussein, has accused "24
Jewish organizations" of "fueling the conflict in Darfur" last week in an
interview with a Saudi newspaper.
Hussein was interviewed during an official state-visit to the Saudi kingdom
last week. A journalist from Saudi Arabia's Okaz newspaper asked Hussein:
"Some people are talking about the penetration of Jewish organizations in
Darfur and that there is no conflict there?"
"The Darfur issue is being fuelled by 24 Jewish organizations, who are
making the largest amount of noise over the issue, and using the Holocaust
in their campaigning," the Sudanese defense minister replied.
"Are these Jewish groups supporting (the rebels) financially?," the
interviewer from Okaz asked Hussein.
"Yes, they provide political and material support through their control over
the media and across American and British circles," Hussein said, adding
that Jewish groups were using "all means to fuel these conflicts."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...431281,00.html
Its a wonder Olmert hasn't been assassinated yet...
Who would want to kill a clown?
If its a clown from Steven King's IT, yes, I would.
Your country is being much too nice to them.
People that want peace do NOT vote in terrorist groups to run their country.
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