Quote Originally Posted by scattergood View Post
Number of people killed by Bin Laden, Ahmadinejad, Hamas or their followers: Thousands upon thousands, upon thousands.

Number of people killed by Spencer or his followers: Zero I believe.
In one breath you say we are in a state of permanent war and in the second, you are unwilling to recognize that in any war, there are casualties on both sides. In this case, the force applies is so assymetric to the terrorists that there are thousands more civilian casualties in Iraq and other places than were ever killed by all the terrorists put together. You have adopted exactly the same method of reckoning civilian casualties as Bin Laden. Therefore, to you, it's zero. What you forget is that if the west is to claim moral superiority, they must maintain morally superior methods.

Again facts tend to get to get in Andak's way so he just goes and ignores them.
Everyone who ever made the world a better place did. Suppose Moses had left the people below the mountain alone to worship their golden calf? Suppose the inventor of the Polio vaccine had given up because it didn't look likely he'd succeed? Wresting peace from a bunch of war mongers is a vital task for the future of the planet.

Your "facts" are the facts of a bunch of narrow minded bigots. If I follow you, then I must follow Bin Laden. I refuse to follow either. I won't live on the flat earth you are making for yourselves.