Home | You compare Christianity (which is idolatry by all definition) to Judaism?Originally Posted by andak01
It's like comparing Hizbullah to the IDF.
And then you dare to say that if I speek against a negative thing (Christianity) then it's proselytizing?
Next you will ask why a policeman can shoot a criminal but a criminal can't shoot a policeman, or why a judge can send a criminal to prison but not the opposite.
No. I'm comparing a Christian poster, subject to the Rules of the Road to you and me.
I happen to have negative thoughts against it too. It ain't my religion. However, I'm able to step away long enough not to bash Christianity.And then you dare to say that if I speek against a negative thing (Christianity) then it's proselytizing?
No. I'll simply ask again that you refrain from bashing religion, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Voodoo, even Atheism. We try to be a little more user friendly here than in real life, or even in many of the other forums within IF.Next you will ask why a policeman can shoot a criminal but a criminal can't shoot a policeman, or why a judge can send a criminal to prison but not the opposite.
I can and will assist in protecting you from anyone who comes here to say your own religion is inferior. Thank you.
The rules of the road give me all the rights to stand against lie and fraud whatever it's Hizbullah, Hamas or Christianity.
I have all the rights to continue to stand against lie and fraud and I will continue to do it whatever it's called Hizbullah, Hamas or Christianity.
Who are you to tell me not to bash negative things? And you dare to put Judaism, Christianity and Islam in the same basket? Then you are much more ignorant then I thought about you in the first place.
Our nation suffered too much from these lies in the names of Christianity and Islam.
I didn't say inferior, I said (and proved) lie.
You protect me?
That's the most funny joke I have ever heard! I don't need you to "protect" me, I can compete with anyone, and what's more funny is that you aren't protecting me at all, the opposite is true, you protect the lie and the fraud, and because you don't know what to say and because you don't have any clue what's Christianity is and what's Judaism is then you continue to talk nonsense in this thread.
I think I would be Amish, or Quaker. But not a good one. I just don't pay attention to anyone's authority any more. And groups that claim no authority at all piss me off even more.
I do and the world does. And what's more each of us as individual Christians, Jews and Muslims believes that our path is the best and the only. What separates the tolerant from the intolerant is the ability to suppress the desire to spout that to the world when it isn't wanted. It isn't whether you believe your religion to be the only true path or not, but how you treat others on account of your beliefs.
Well, finally something we agree on. Yes, Jews have suffered too much because of Christianity and Islam. I don't propose to do away with either of them and we can't undo the past. What we can do is educate the next generation not to repeat the mistakes of the current one.Our nation suffered too much from these lies in the names of Christianity and Islam.
I'm not really interested. The Christians have "proven" that both our religions are a lie too. I presume the Wikkens have taken a stab at it too. Atheists certainly feel they have conclusively proven that we are all living a lie if we have any religion.I didn't say inferior, I said (and proved) lie.
From any annoyance you may feel at having people come in this forum and tell you that Mormonism is the only true path and you are going to be saved after you die or for that matter, Muslims telling you that the Torah has been corrupted.You protect me?
I can't protect you from anything important, because; let's face it, this forum isn't very important. But this forum does have a face and that face is not hatred or intolerance.
I wanted to be a Rasta but I didn't have $900 for the hat.
BTW Jews make up the largest group of Buddhists in North America. Everyone's trying to be Leonard Cohen I guess.
hey mon, we have them for 9 bucks in Brooklyn!
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You continue not to relate to my claims but to defend lies. Even the Nazis believed that their path was the right path so what?
I proved why Christianity and Islam are lies. But you didn't relate to these claims because you can't.
Taking a Jewish criminal who was sentenced to death because of idolatry and making a "G-d" out of him by creating an imaginary story which based upon lies and distortion is not something that we should be tolerant to, not at all.
As long as people will continue to believe that Jews killed their (people) "Man/G-d" then they will continue to hate and to revenge the Jews for killing him. And as long as people will continue to believe that Jews refused to receive the "great message" of "Allah" then they will continue to hate and revenge the Jews for not practive their religion.
The only education will be when these people abandon their invented religions and will come back to follow the 7 laws of Noach.
That's a lie, they didn't prove anything, I call for any Christian here to try to debate with me, I promise to winn him in all fields.
Again, it doesn't matter what they think, Hizbullah and Hamas also think that Jews should be converted or murder in the name of Jihad, and that they are not own a land, so what?
Who cares what pagan gentiles think? Who cares?
The only one who practice hatred and intolerance in this forum is you, when you protect the lie and the fraud of invented religions which based upon anti-semitism.
Next you will say that criticizing Hamas and Hizbullah is also hate and intolerance.
You don't have a clue about what Christianity and Islam are, you don't have a clue and you continue to refuse to relate to the points I made in this thread about the fraud and lie of Christianity and Islam, you remind me the ones who accuse Israel in their standing against their enemies.
I guess everyone who raises true claims about the lie and the fraud of Christianity and Islam is consider in your ignorant eyes to be practicing hate and intolerance, no surprising because either you are a complete ignorant or a complete cruel who defends the lie.
The truth is that you refused to relate to my claims I made in this thread but instead you chosed to throw empty slogans which showed that you are a complete ignorant or a complete cruel.
Dalai Lama defines my religion in a few words.
This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.
You can claim to be believe whatever you want, but at the end of day your actions come only from your heart and brain.
I don't believe in organised religions. All prophets, in my view, were nothing special in any way other than being 'lucky' enough to be recognised and mentioned in the history.
Thousands of freedom fighters and ideologists have been being tortured to death, hanged, crucified, and shot and we hardly ever hear about them. Those are my heroes.
In my experience, organised religions are nothing but a moral framework to protect and justify man's actions. It's all about power, and control.
And to WHOM it may apply,
You can go on forever attacking other religions and continue the never-ending argument of "mine is better than yours"...
You can carry on your rage, hatred, "occasional" love, and flame against others in the name of "your" God, but you're ultimately expressing what is REALLY in your head and heart.
Why do you hide behind your religion badge? Why don't you just say "I hate Arabs, Muslims....", "I hate Jews, Christians....", "I hate anyone who's got a different religion to mine..."
You're full of conflicts and hatred. You can justify killing innocent people, even kids and babies. You don't even value your own life. You can easily blow up yourself and others and fool yourself. You teach your children to HATE others...
You don't understand respect and tolerance, because "your" book (your brain and heart) is so black-and-white. You don't trust anyone, because you're mentally scared and insecure. You're not even sure of your beliefs. You keep fooling yourself.
*If your argument was so solid, you wouldn't have to push it with aggression and personal attacks. Every time you get desperate to win or support your argument you resort to personal attacks hoping that it would divert attention from your weakness temporarily while you're desperately searching Google to post a link from a "reliable" source.
*You firmly believe in genetic and ethnic superiority - You are RACIST - Plain and simple.
Your only objection to the Nazi's mass murder would be that they murdered the wrong people.
You are a ruthless, arrogant politician wanna-be who doesn't even understand the basics of simple dialogue and yet tries hard to prove his superiority by his blatant verbal/written violence.
You don't need to go into philosophy because you don't understand it.
You only the your GG - "your" God and your gun.
You are a disgrace to your community, but you're still protected because not everyone in your community is like you.
You need a punch bag to expel your hatred and rage. Why don't you use it and get rid of your anger before posting in the forum.
You can't get rid of your anger and hatred can you... It's not a temporary problem; It's your nature; it's your personality; It's in your brain and heart...
God ain't gonna come down and correct you...Your prophet ain't here to embarrass you...
Stop patronising others with your 1000+ year old book. "Your" God and religion is trapped in "your" head and "your" heart. Don't pretend everyone of your religion thinks like you, or even worse that you actually represent everyone of your religion.
Yes, carry on speaking for Moses, Mohammad, etc...and don't worry about being criticised. You've got the book of "your" God; You've got "licence to kill" if needed.
"The" God bless you all :-)
p.s
To Mods
Why don't you rewrite the Rules of the Road as follows:
Personal attacks are not allowed, unless directed at Andak01
Ethnic slurs and insults are not allowed, except against Muslims, Arabs, and Andak01
Religious bashing is not allowed, unless against Islam
We encourage you to attack Andak01 as you wish.
And NO, I'm neither Muslim nor Arab.
Last edited by Parsi; 04-28-2007 at 07:56 AM.
In this post of yours you chosed to be very rude and ugly, would you better relate to the claims I raised?
I didn't attack him at all nor cursed him.
Religions are lies, and I proved that they are lies many times, millions of Jews have been tortured, burned and murdered because of the fairytales of these religions. Jews suffered much more from Christianity than Islam. If you say otherwise than you are the hater, and the liar.
BTW, there is a mod in here who likes to curse and he did it couple of times, I think he is the one who should be treated.
Mr Bagel:
My religion/philosophy: Judaism
The next best religion in my opinion: The Jelly Fish cult
Why? The Jelly Fish Cult is a recognised religion in Sydney Australia.
Its 'establisher' was at the sea having a fairly lucid dream like experience at a pier, a jellyfish swam up and pronounced that it was the messenger for all humanity. In a series of pronouncements, the jellyfish elicited the true meaning of life and the core importance of just being.
Some have accused the Jellyfish cult of using this 'incident' for purely tax purposes.
Its members tend to be anarchists or those that are fairly disillusioned with the mainstream.
Seems he took the red pill.
Mr Bagel
Parsi joon you already forgot that time (a week ago, perhaps) when your friend, Andak01, bashed the Druze religion? He was asked to apologize afterwards and did so, but let's not cast him as some kind of saint. The above lines of yours sound ridiculous especially since you commented in that very thread and saw what he wrote.
Andak01 takes a lot of heat on the forum, but many times he is responsible for stirring the pot.
The poster you are currently angry with and accuse of only "bashing Islam" has actually bashed Christianity even more than Islam in this very thread, yet you only chose to point out about Islam and that is perhaps your bias of being a former Muslim.
You know my take on things-either all religions should be allowed to be "bashed" (including Judaism) or none.
"It is cheap to attack Israel. I am certainly not going to make a cheap attack on Israel by howling in the woods with the rest of the wolves." - Geert Wilders
Yala joon,
My previous post was largely a general reaction to a number of threads and a number of different people.
You're right. Andak01 did bash the Durse religion and he was asked to apologise for it. That's precisely my point. I haven't seen any other users being asked to apologise for similar cases.
I get a feeling that some users have personal issues with Andark01 for whatever reason, but I don't know why attacking him personally takes priority over answering his arguments. Anyway he's not more of a friend to me than other users (except a very few ;-))
You're also right that I didn't mention Christianity in my post. That's not because any religious bias though. I somehow only saw the attacked side as being Muslims only, perhaps because of St. Andak01.
This is all becoming very tiring for me. I criticise Islam on daily basis due to the situation in UK and also my work place. Islam, Jews, Israel, and Iran are the words that I sometimes dread hearing first thing in the morning. Being caught between non-Iranian Muslims and Jews, as an Iranian, is not fun. Believe me.
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