Blame-game for chaos in Gaza

[wellofvow]

I am seeing in the developing news on the chaos in Gaza a nauseatingly familiar trend to blame Israel - who else?

Speaking at the World Economic Forum, both the head of the Arab League

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and King Abdullah of Jordan

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announce that Israel is partly to blame for Hamas killing Fatah killing Hamas killing Fatah killing.....

This MUST be denied forcibly and unequivocably.

The EU has seen to it that every Gazan is armed to the teeth. His family might be starving, but by gun - oops, sorry - by gum, he has a gun.

The US Secretary of State has seen to it that thugs and terrorists have a democratic right to be elected to run a country that hasn't the foggiest idea of what democracy means.

And don't get me started on the UN.

Israel is not responsible for the mayhem in Gaza. They are killing each other over their internal politics. AND WE ARE NOT OCCUPYING GAZA!

If rockets are fired into Israel from Gaza, Israel has finally started showing that we will fire back. BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ANARCHY.

Gee, where is the UN?? Yoohoo, Media! Palestinians are being killed!!!! Take pictures!!!! Interviews!!!! Not interested because Israelis are not doing the "killing"???? hmmmmm

[Mil]

Without the Joos it's not fun. Every Euro-child knows that.

[Djinn]

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Israel is not responsible for the mayhem in Gaza. They are killing each other over their internal politics. AND WE ARE NOT OCCUPYING GAZA! ...

I'm playing devil's advocate here - what if the Gaza-Israel relation was not called an "occupation," but a "siege?"

[Yala]

I'm playing devil's advocate here - what if the Gaza-Israel relation was not called an "occupation," but a "siege?"

And what if it was called "Apartheid" or "genocide," which it is on a daily basis by morons? Do the Arabs, Europeans or bleeding hearts care about facts? As long as they can view and portray Jews in a negative way, they will. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Reffo]

Israel is not responsible for the mayhem in Gaza......They are killing each other over their internal politics.

But but but...You couldn't possibly be implying that Palestinian Arabs would be possibly be responsible for any wrong doing? Or any of their own misfortune? Surely not....surely you couldn't be that insensitive?

Haven't you heard? They are the underdogs.... they are disadvantaged, they are being oppressed.... they can't help themselves, where is your empathy my dear fellow.... Haven't you heard? They only have rights but no responsibilities .....

Consider yourself chastised.... Hey, it's better coming from the likes of me. I am only joshing, but there are millions of brainwashed automatons out there who would say all of that to you, in all seriousness, and mean it too...

[MGB8]

Yeah... siege.

It's a siege to close down passageways when they are attacked... and of course, when you try to open them, they get attacked again, by Palestinians.

It's a siege to have European monitors at the Gaza-Egypt crossing point, who are also a target of attack and a site of smuggling of weapons... and when this sometimes closes due to attacks and smuggling, the weapons go through tunnells underneath.

It's a siege to not give a country who's government's goal is to destroy a Western Nation and to continue attacking it financial aid directly - even though aid to the Pal Arabs WENT UP last year, significantly (I've heard as much as 3x!), much of it from the US and EU.

Of course, where did these more than a BILLION dollars of aid go during this "seige?" Not to suffering people who are complaining about their lives... it went to WEAPONS - at $10,000 per rifle, not to mention thousands of Qassams and anti-tank missles.

It's a siege for Israel to fire back when the Arabs fire rockets into Israel.

It's a siege for Israel to monitor its own borders with Gaza, or to have any borders.

It's a siege for Israel to ask the Palestinians to recognize that Israel exists legally under international law and in reality, too.

A siege. A siege which causes the Arabs to destroy the Greenhouses Jews built, and then other Jews purchased for them. A siege which causes the Arabs to use Micky Mouse, among others, to indoctrinate their people for death and evil. What, no Israeli to easily fire upon ... the siege causes them to kill each other in little warlord factions, ala Somalia (also under siege?) in order to get power over a place which could be world class in terms of resorts and certain agriculature products... but instead is a huge waste of land.


You what Gaza proves? That evil destroys itself. The Palestinian Arabs, and the Arab world generally, is reaping what it has sown. This is a nice version of divine justice, of divine accountability. THE ARABS, and NO ONE ELSE, have created a culture of death, in their goal to committ genocide upon the Jews. Now that culture of death is feasting upon itself.

THEY created their workd of darnkess. Ergo, they deserve it. Every death of an Arab in Arab-Arab fighting... is the fault of the Arab peoples. Most of the deaths of Arabs (and Jews) in Arab Jewish fighting - is the fault of the Arab peoples.

This is the manifestation of their values, of their culture. They DESERVE this. Let them all kill each other - what they would do onto others is being done onto them... by them.

They are getting the natural results of their own abhorrence. It's a truism... evil destroys itself... and the Arabs prove this every day, in Iraq, in Gaza, in Lebanon, in so many places...

You want proof of the failure of modern Islam... there you go. Islam, as it is practiced in the majority of the mid-east, is an abomination, an evil, because it is Islamic values (combined with Arab tribal values) that are expressed - and we see the results of these values. And imagine if they didn't have oil....? It would make Africa look like the height of modernity.

Islam clearly wasn't always this way - as once upon a time a more spiritual, more even secular Islam held sway and this led to advanced civillizations. Probably in large part due to Persian zoroastrian influence, as well. But that is no more. Now we have this garbage, and Turks and regular Persians and some Lebanese trying to succeed in spite of it - not by following strict interpretations of Islam, but specifically by flouting those insane standards for something more flexible and open and tolerant - sometimes, as in the case of the Turks, by forcibly relegating Islam to only a private place in life, and no place in government or the rules of civil society.

[Leb@nese]

Good evening, I thank you for Trak this subject and I know that Israel has the independence, the Palestinians killed themselves, but why do not the State of Israel comprehensive peace with all Arab states and be friendly to them when the State of Israel will remain contagious for all States I believe that Israel allow Palestinians live in peace, I think the Palestinians will respect the sovereignty of the State of Israel and thank you for your subject

[bararallu]

I think the Palestinians will respect the sovereignty of the State of Israel and thank you for your subject

When the Palestinians respect Jordanian, and Lebanese sovereignty then be sure to write us again. If I'm not mistaken they tried to kill every Christian and Shia in the south of Lebanon, and at the same time attack Israel behind an international border (hence the first Israel-Lebanon war).

No one here thinks every palistinian is evil, but their leadership class, whether more secular thieving autocrats of Fatah or the Islamist Hamas both continue to call for genocide against the Jews.

They make cute little programs, like copying mickey mouse and spreading their hate to the next generation. We do nothing like that. Not against them and not against anyone else. That is why we actually have leftists in this country... you know the kind that would be hanging from lampposts in Egypt and many of the other countries in the Middle East.

Until the spigot of hate turns off, mainly from Saudi Arabia, Iran and Egypt, peace is as possible as a snow ball in hades.

[Reffo]

Good evening, I thank you for Trak this subject and I know that Israel has the independence, the Palestinians killed themselves, but why do not the State of Israel comprehensive peace with all Arab states and be friendly to them when the State of Israel will remain contagious for all States

And a good day to you too. Yes, I agree, Israelis and Arabs should conclude a comprehensive peace deal. Why do you think that hasn't happened in the last 60 years? Why do you think it isn't it happening now?

I believe that Israel allow Palestinians live in peace, I think the Palestinians will respect the sovereignty of the State of Israel and thank you for your subject

I am not sure what you mean.... Are you saying that Israel should not respond to Quassam rockets, to kidnappings, to suicide bombings etc? And are you saying that if Israel does not respond to Palestinian Arab attacks then the Pal Arabs will respect Israel's sovereignity?

[wellofvow]

I'm playing devil's advocate here - what if the Gaza-Israel relation was not called an "occupation," but a "siege?"

No, dear boy, you have it quite confused!

It is clear that the testosterone-drunk savages in Gaza believe that they are laying siege to Israel.

"Occupation"???? What occupation? Let's talk about the "British Mandate" as THE mother of occupations.....

I am quite happy to watch the thugs killing each other - as are most Israelis, except the miskeynim in Shderot and the Western Negev. It reminds me of the Sicilian mob in the old days. Can't you see it? Marlon Brando in a skimask! Whatta hoot.

[bararallu]

Dahlan must be feeling real good right now.... this is his baby (probably the airstrikes as well). Got a feeling that he will be the next king of Gaza when the dust clears.

[Yala]

I am quite happy to watch the thugs killing each other - as are most Israelis, except the miskeynim in Shderot and the Western Negev.

Actually you have the bleeding heart leftists in your country (like Israelimom) crying over these poor, innocent, peaceful people.

[wellofvow]

Actually you have the bleeding heart leftists in your country (like Israelimom) crying over these poor, innocent, peaceful people.

Excuse me?

What's your problem?

I'm as responsible for the Leftists of Israel as you are for the morons in the University of California system administration.

[Mediocrates]

Hey watch it. Some of my best friends are morons.

[ChicagoBlues]

Good evening, I thank you for Trak this subject and I know that Israel has the independence, the Palestinians killed themselves, but why do not the State of Israel comprehensive peace with all Arab states and be friendly to them when the State of Israel will remain contagious for all States I believe that Israel allow Palestinians live in peace, I think the Palestinians will respect the sovereignty of the State of Israel and thank you for your subject

And what do you think of peaceful Palestinians right now, considering the latest developments in LEBANON?