Rape in America & how to solve it.

[Vitnir]

See, Islam doesn't really contradict tyrannic regime, does it? Or else, why do most of the countries, with Islamic majority in them, look the way they do?

[andak01]

See, Islam doesn't really contradict tyrannic regime, does it? Or else, why do most of the countries, with Islamic majority in them, look the way they do?

I think you need to read a bit of history and find out who designed their borders, controlled their resources and their trade and influenced, if necessary, by force; who was to rule them while blaming them at the same time for any negative repercussions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iranian_Oil_Company

It was, of course, true, as one Iraqi dictator after another claimed, that the exact Iraq-Kuwait frontier was a line drawn on an empty map by a British civil servant in the early 1920s. But Kuwait began to emerge as an independent entity in the early 1700s - two centuries before Britain invented Iraq. Moreover, most other frontiers between states of the Middle East were also creations of the British (or the French). The map of the Arab Middle East was drawn by the victorious Allies when they took over these lands from the Ottoman Empire after World War I.
http://christianactionforisrael.org/.../midesmap.html

[Vitnir]

So, basically, you're blaming the... Christians for the state of things in Muslim countries? How typical. I bet they were responsible for the polygamy, female circumcision and fundamentalism too.

And, I wouldn't hurry to take Wikipedia as my source on everything. You know ever fool can come and write down whatever they want on anything they want.

[Agnosthiest]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Iranian_Oil_Company

It was, of course, true, as one Iraqi dictator after another claimed, that the exact Iraq-Kuwait frontier was a line drawn on an empty map by a British civil servant in the early 1920s. But Kuwait began to emerge as an independent entity in the early 1700s - two centuries before Britain invented Iraq. Moreover, most other frontiers between states of the Middle East were also creations of the British (or the French). The map of the Arab Middle East was drawn by the victorious Allies when they took over these lands from the Ottoman Empire after World War I.
http://christianactionforisrael.org/.../midesmap.html

Why must muslims always put the blame squarely on the europeans? Look "But Kuwait began to emerge as an independent entity in the early 1700s - two centuries before Britain invented Iraq". Its human nature to try to stand on your own feet. Islam itself is divided into two major sects, and within them are many tribes, races, and languages.


This is from wiki's entry on lawrence:

The map provides an alternative to present-day borders in the region, based on the sensibilities of the local populations. It includes a separate state for the Armenians and groups the people of present-day Syria, Jordan and parts of Saudi Arabia in another state, based on tribal patterns and commercial routes


Europeans helped the Arab nations gain their independence without much bloody in-fighting between competing arab tribes.

[Mil]

It was, of course, true, as one Iraqi dictator after another claimed, that the exact Iraq-Kuwait frontier was a line drawn on an empty map by a British civil servant in the early 1920s. But Kuwait began to emerge as an independent entity in the early 1700s - two centuries before Britain invented Iraq. Moreover, most other frontiers between states of the Middle East were also creations of the British (or the French). The map of the Arab Middle East was drawn by the victorious Allies when they took over these lands from the Ottoman Empire after World War I.

Very true. You also forgot the Russians.

There is a very good book on this if you guys want to spend some money:

David Fromik, A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East

http://www.amazon.com/Peace-End-All-...120958&sr=8-37

A must read for any ME buff!!!!

[andak01]

I have it at home, and though I never finished it, I thought it was one of the most memorable titles I've come across and about as perfect a description of what has happened as anything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not of the school that blames everything on colonialism. But if you ignore that completely, you get a stilted and insultingly simplistic view of what has happened. That's like looking at Native Americans and saying: "Look at all those drunk, lazy bastards. They couldn't do anything better for themselves than lay around the reservation."

[Agnosthiest]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not of the school that blames everything on colonialism. But if you ignore that completely, you get a stilted and insultingly simplistic view of what has happened.

You dont blame everything on it but you put too much blame on colonialism that you get a stilted and insultingly simplistic view of what is happening.

[Vitnir]

Hey, if it's not the Colonialists, it must be the Crusaders.