Israeli internal divisions?

[Gilgamesh]

We are arguing about the chicken abd the egg. I think we agree that the Jews from Russian origin were poorly integrated into Israeli native society, regardless of whose fault is it.

I don't agree!
Most Jews, or russians who want to be Jews, are fully integrated. Those who aren't are not Jews, and do not remain in Israel for very long. They move out, to Russia, Germany or America.

Not according to my knowledge. In the last decade or so, most Jews who came from Russia came because they sought better life quality here (same reason people come to America), and the ones that don't find it, leave.

Hopelessness and poverty may break the most ideological motivated person. I agree that the majority of Russian immigrates, moved here on life improving reasons, but many picked up right wing Zionism over here. So the result is thesame.

[sharonbn]

fine. I stand corrected.

[KettleWhistle]

Hopelessness and poverty may break the most ideological motivated person. I agree that the majority of Russian immigrates, moved here on life improving reasons, but many picked up right wing Zionism over here.

Not really true. Zionism was one of the motivators. It wasn't the only one--promise of a better life did matter. And I don't think you can reasonably expect many people with families move thousands of miles away just because of the ideologies. That said, vast majority of E. European Jews are the so-called right wing Zionists, who believe that Israel is the Jewish state, that Israeli flag is the Jewish flag, and to whom the Israeli anthem is the Jewish anthem. It's not something they just picket up in Israel.

[Mercury]

There's plenty, actually. I hereby submit:

Shmuel Yosef Agnon (Nobel Prize in literature).

Amos Oz (a Goethe Prize laureate).

David Grossman

Ephraim Kishon

Hanoch Levin

I guess we just have different understanding of who can be considered "widely known". Obviously, there is no generally accepted way to define the threshold. My own "gut feeling" is that to qualifiy, the author's name has to be at least recognized by say 1% of the adult population. Among the list you've given, I don't think even Kishon (who btw was born in Hungary and spent most of his life abroad) meets this standard. As for Agnon's Nobel Prize, this is hardly a sign of the author popularity. I believe that the Nobel Prize comitee (in literature) gets most of its guidance not from the books but from the map ("Let's rotate the globe and see which country didn't get the prize in the last 50 years"). I'm sure you are very educated, but it would surprize me if you were familiar with the names (let alone books) of most of the people who got after WWII.

I pretty much agree with the rest of your post though.