Wilders will go the same way as Le Pen who drove the first nail into his political coffin when he championed the cause of hatred and xenophobia. Questioning the Shoa buried him. Some people never learnOriginally Posted by Rob
Home | Wilders will go the same way as Le Pen who drove the first nail into his political coffin when he championed the cause of hatred and xenophobia. Questioning the Shoa buried him. Some people never learn
Yet all of this is meaningless in the real world, in the street. In fact few if any antisemitic acts are ever prosecuted in France or even reported.
I rather think he will go the same way as Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh...Wilders will go the same way as Le Pen who drove the first nail into his political coffin when he championed the cause of hatred and xenophobia. Questioning the Shoa buried him. Some people never learn
OK, facts please!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7842344.stm
He has 9 seats in parliament, which makes him the 5th party. However, even the ultra-leftist SP has almost 3 times as many seats.
According to polls today he would be the third party.
https://n7.noties.nl/peil.nl/
I think he's just a populist with a lot of blabla. In the meanwhile, the second city in the Netherlands and the biggest port on earth now has a muslim maire. And most Dutch don't have any problem with that, as the Netherlands is really one of the most tolerant and open societies in the world.
In the article not once racism is mentioned. What is your point?
I agree. I think we should get rid of parties and politicians who advocate hatred against other religions and people.Wilders will go the same way as Le Pen who drove the first nail into his political coffin when he championed the cause of hatred and xenophobia. Questioning the Shoa buried him. Some people never learn
By the way, do you knwo that some Jews on this forum actually support an antisemite like Le Pen? The only reason is that he hates Arabs even more than Jews. (I'm referring to lomplighter, but I'm sure there are others as well, and he may still be posting here under another nickname)
A Dutch court has ordered prosecutors to put a right-wing politician on trial for making anti-Islamic statements.In the article not once racism is mentioned. What is your point?
What the difference between anti-islamic statements and racism? What's the difference between anti-semitic statements and racism?
That poll is NOT from today. Another poll from TODAY shows he would be the second party now
Yep, it showed during the demonstrations last month. He didn´t care that people chanted that Jews should go back to the gas chambers and that scares me.In the meanwhile, the second city in the Netherlands and the biggest port on earth now has a muslim maire-
Jews are no a race (gentils can convert to it), nor are Muslims. Awaiting your back paddling replies...you have absolutely nothing to back up your statement that Wilders is prosecuted for racism...and are too small a boy because of your hatred to recognize that!
I'm getting tired of all this googling, why can't you people check your facts before stating stupidities?
Recent polls confirm that the French are not anti-Semitic: 80% of young people say they would have no problem living with a Jewish partner. 87% consider anti-Semitic acts disgraceful and believe there should be severe penalties (UEJF poll, 2000). As of April 2003, 85% of the French said they are sympathetic to the Jews, compared with 72% in February 1990 (CSA, Le Figaro, 2003).
The first figures available for 2003 show a marked decrease in the number of anti-Semitic acts (72 anti-Semitic acts from January to August 2003; 172, for the corresponding period in 2002- see attached report). The French authorities are strongly determined to pursue their policy of zero tolerance.
French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy was awarded the 2003 Tolerance Prize of the Simon Wiesenthal Center for his work in combating anti-Semitism in France. "Confronted with anti-Semitism and racism, I know only two words," said Sarkozy: "Zero tolerance." "You don't explain anti-Semitism and racism," he said: "You fight it." President Chirac fully supports zero tolerance.
2 - Steps Taken to Combat anti-Semitism
2.1 A Tougher Law
Parliament beefed up legislation against anti-Semitism, passing a law on February 5, 2002 mandating tougher penalties for racist, anti-Semitic or xenophobic offences. The law, now in force, was adopted unanimously--proof that the people's representatives are united and determined in the face of a phenomenon that will not be tolerated. Whereas prior legislation penalized racist behavior when it was manifestly that, it is now possible to penalize individuals more severely for attacks or insults when the investigation shows that anti-Semitism is the hidden reason for the offence.
2.2 Robust Measures Adopted
- On Monday, November 17, after the arson of a Jewish school set to open in January in Gagny, the President of the Republic presided over a special Cabinet meeting to determine the measures to be taken in order to strengthen the fight against anti-SemitismHe decided to set up an interministerial committee, which will meet monthly under the authority of the Prime Minister, to monitor closely the situation.
- A prevention/protection squad has been set up consisting of 13 units of mobile forces (1,200 CRS-riot police and mobile gendarmes); these units have been deployed specifically to protect synagogues, local associations and schools in consultation with representatives of the Jewish community;
- law-enforcement response to anti-Semitic offences is very strict: public prosecutors have been instructed to ensure that there are no delays in prosecuting offenders. Whenever the perpetrators of anti-Semitic offences have been identified and convicted, the sentences have been harsh (immediate imprisonment, not suspended sentences, including for damage to property).
These firm measures, which reflect the government's determination, have largely contributed to the drop in the number of anti-Semitic offences.
2.3 Lastly, the government has taken the fight against anti-Semitism to schools.
On February 27, 2003, Education Minister Luc Ferry presented a ten-point program of action to deal with the problem of anti-Semitism and racism in schools. It includes special teams in schools to identify and track incidents with the aid of mediators, tougher penalties, and handbooks for teachers. The minister explained, "It's important to intervene at the slightest incident, even if it's verbal, and to let nothing pass without punishment and explanation."
- Help for teaching staff: teams have been set up in schools to monitor for incidents;
- Tougher penalties have been introduced for anti-Semitic or racist comments. Immediately an offence is known, it is reported to the judicial services and youth protection services. School chancellors have been instructed to be absolutely firm in such matters.
- Education in tolerance: a "Holocaust Memorial Day" is now observed in French schools for the remembrance of the Holocaust and the prevention of crimes against humanity. France chose January 27 for this day, the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
3 - Tackling Anti-Semitism at the International Level
3-1 To be effective, the fight against anti-Semitism has also to be addressed at the international level. France sent a delegation led by Robert Badinter, a distinguished French jurist and intellectual, to the special meeting of the OSCE on anti-Semitism in Vienna in June 2003 which it fully supported and at which it took an active part. The French parliamentary delegation to the OSCE aligned itself last February, in Vienna, with the letter of intent on anti-Semitism, signed by Congressman Smith, (Republican, New Jersey) and German Parliamentarian Gert Weisskirchen (of the SPD party), to bolster efforts against anti-Semitism in OSCE member states.
3-2 New forms of communication, especially the Internet, are wonderful for promoting human rights but at the same time they can be used for hateful expressions of racism and anti-Semitism in defiance of national or international legislation prohibiting such "speech."
Since the suit against Yahoo in 2000, France has been working actively in several international bodies for a collective debate on anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia on the Internet. The government raised the matter in the G8 bodies. As president of the G8, France proposed a discussion on ways to prevent the Internet from being used for anti-Semitic comments and incitement to racial hatred and violence, and the prosecution of offenders.
France will also host an OSCE meeting on this issue in 2004 and hopes that the United States will play an active role in it. .
France also took a key role in the negotiations in the Council of Europe on the Cybercrime Convention and additional protocol on racism and xenophobia. France made a point of being one of the first signatories of the convention and protocol.
|http://www.elysee.fr/elysee/elysee.f...ance.6884.html
In 2003, 19 people were arrested and 5 search warrants were issued against non-identified individuals, in connection with antisemitic offenses. By late August 2004, 46 people had been arrested and prosecuted. It should be noted that the French Penal Code now takes into account an antisemitic motive as an aggravating factor in violent attacks. The reinforcement of French law was praised during a meeting of the OSCE in June 2003. However, in libel suits, such as the Dieudonné case (see below), some judges tend to regard antisemitic behavior/utterances as permissible in the framework of freedom of expression.
In June 2003, a French higher court fined Jean Claude Willem, communist mayor of Seclin, $2,300 for ordering school canteens to cease buying Israeli orange juice. He had been acquitted in a lower court in March, but a Lille Jewish community leader appealed.
Also in June, an appeals court in Lyon upheld editor Jean Plantin’s 6-month prison sentence. He had published works doubting the scope of the Holocaust. He had received a 6-months suspended sentence in June 2000 and was ordered to cease his activities. However, the suspension was revoked after he continued them.
Neo-Nazi militant Jean Trouchaud (alias Florian Scheckler, a half-Jew) was sentenced to 2 years in prison for trying to blow himself up in a mosque in Paris. His contacts were militants of the FN and other neo-Nazis.
http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2003-4/france.htm
So according to you antisemitism is not racism right?
Antisemitism and anti-islamism are on the same level , and should be prosecuted at the same time, right?
Tha law applies equally to all religious symbols, not only muslim religious symbols.
So you think people shouldn't be prosecuted for anti-islam or anti-semitc statements?
Where's the racist remark/s in my posting? Of course sorry I dont agree with Jewish immigration into the UK, I dont agree to any further building of synagogues in the UK, I dont agree that school children should be subjected to the language and food of another culture without permission of the parents in the UK.
More like a concerned British subject who is sick and tired of the political correctness which exsist within their own country but definitely not a racist!!!!
just by replacing some words, your post could become anti-semitic, it means it's over the limits. I'm also not politically correct, I think people can say openly that radical mosques need to be watched, and that islamism is a threat, that migrants should do more efforts to integrate in society, etc. But you can not single out one group of people. On the contrary I don't have a problem with migration, with mosques, churches or synagogues, Standards should be the same for everyone. Jews in American and GB are all sons or daughters of migrants, and they helped to make these countries great and more diverse. If you are against migration you are against your own roots. (and against progression)
No I'm saying there's a difference between marching to a shul, throwing rocks at it and screaming for all the Jews to die, and a movie you have to pay to go to which highlights some ideas you don't like.
Like your footer, if you don't don't like the program, change the channel.
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