Hate crimes should be prosecuted as such. The hate crimes laws that were enacted in the USA have worked very well to stanch the wellspring of such talk and behavior, IMO. It is felonious behavior.
Home | Hate crimes should be prosecuted as such. The hate crimes laws that were enacted in the USA have worked very well to stanch the wellspring of such talk and behavior, IMO. It is felonious behavior.
Originally Posted by kozzol
Where's the racist remark/s in my posting? Of course sorry I dont agree with mohammedien immigration into the UK, I dont agree to any further building of mosques in the UK, I dont agree that school children should be subjected to the language and food of another culture without permission of the parents in the UK, I dont believe terrorist acts should be carried out on the UK shores, I dont believe religous fanatics should be allowed to preach hate, bigotry, racism and death in places of worship and on the streets of the UK and I could go on and on.
More like a concerned British subject who is sick and tired of the political correctness which exsist within their own country but definitely not a racist!!!!With a play of words and their meanings you are correct. But first I would like to point out that mohammediens are not a race of people but people from different countries world wide who follow Islam and its prophet mohammed.takeo response
Where's the racist remark/s in my posting? Of course sorry I dont agree with Jewish immigration into the UK, I dont agree to any further building of synagogues in the UK, I dont agree that school children should be subjected to the language and food of another culture without permission of the parents in the UK.
More like a concerned British subject who is sick and tired of the political correctness which exsist within their own country but definitely not a racist!!!!
just by replacing some words, your post could become anti-semitic, it means it's over the limits. I'm also not politically correct, I think people can say openly that radical mosques need to be watched, and that islamism is a threat, that migrants should do more efforts to integrate in society, etc. But you can not single out one group of people. On the contrary I don't have a problem with migration, with mosques, churches or synagogues, Standards should be the same for everyone. Jews in American and GB are all sons or daughters of migrants, and they helped to make these countries great and more diverse. If you are against migration you are against your own roots. (and against progression)
For me, and this is my own personal opinion, being a Jew means to me that I have through thousands of generations originated from the Hebrew/Israelite race of people who's religion is Judaism.
So when I state that I do not wish for any further immigrants who practise Islam into the Uk, I am not refering to a race of people, I am speaking about their religion, but the reason why I am only suggesting mohammediens is because this is who the topic on this forum is about.
I am not against total immigration, as I believe there are genuine cases who need a sanctuary from their own country, but I do believe that we now have enough immigrants in the UK which makes it a very diverse country, but we also need to take control and sort out the internal problems which exsist for the people presently living here, before taking any others who do not genuinely need sanctuary.
I am totally for progression and intergration, your words, and just wish that someone could tell the millions of immigrants in the UK who do not want this that it is not the way forward.
Jews don't use synagogues to allow people to plot heinious acts against the population of a country that was kind enough to allow them to emigrate to........let's not forget that one little difference.
Would you have the same opinion if it consists of an anti-semitic movie?Originally Posted by Mediocrates
Just change the channel and forget it? But in many European countries Jewish people file complaints against movies, television programs, comics, etc. which they perceive to have made or contain anti-semitic statements.
Most mulims don't do that either, only a very tiny minority.
so you support the prosecution of Wilders?Hate crimes should be prosecuted as such. The hate crimes laws that were enacted in the USA have worked very well to stanch the wellspring of such talk and behavior, IMO. It is felonious behavior.
kozzol
Sometimes if you make statements against others you have to think about how you would feel if these would be directed against YOU?With a play of words and their meanings you are correct.
Most people consider Judaism to be a religion, and Jews are thus not a race.But first I would like to point out that mohammediens are not a race of people but people from different countries world wide who follow Islam and its prophet mohammed.
For me, and this is my own personal opinion, being a Jew means to me that I have through thousands of generations originated from the Hebrew/Israelite race of people who's religion is Judaism.
But by singling out muslims you are discriminating.So when I state that I do not wish for any further immigrants who practise Islam into the Uk, I am not refering to a race of people, I am speaking about their religion, but the reason why I am only suggesting mohammediens is because this is who the topic on this forum is about.
The UK, as all countries, benefitted from immigration. GB has been an immigration country for centuries. That's one of the most important reasons why it belongs to the top, even many years after the dissolution of the empire. I agree that immigration should be controlled, but it won't stop, the economy will always need new forces and new blood.I am not against total immigration, as I believe there are genuine cases who need a sanctuary from their own country, but I do believe that we now have enough immigrants in the UK which makes it a very diverse country, but we also need to take control and sort out the internal problems which exsist for the people presently living here, before taking any others who do not genuinely need sanctuary.
I think it'll take time, as in France. Also the government should prevent ghetto's and stimulate socio-economic empowerment of the minorities. Perhaps a bit more forcefull policy as in France wouldn't hurt either.I am totally for progression and intergration, your words, and just wish that someone could tell the millions of immigrants in the UK who do not want this that it is not the way forward.
Then they are ignorant. Being Jewish is more than just being a member of the Jewish religion. I wouldn't use the word "race", but we are a nationality as well.
"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"
"Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).
I view myself belonging to a race of people because I see myself belonging to a group of people united together on the basis of common history, nationality, geographic distribution and religion.
Judaism is the original religion of my race, but then there are many jewish people who follow different religions, in my eyes this does not affect their history and make them non jews.
My point was in relation with the thread. The fact is that crosses and kippas were never part of the equation. Nor was the hijab before 9/11. This Law was passed overwhelmingly out of fears in the face of radical Islam and in response to the Sharia which was perceived as an infringment of Women s Rights, a danger to their lives but moreover a threat to republican values. Big Fuss... Big Talk...But luckily the muslim community got the message, ackowledged the favour and the little rooster saved all its feathers.
But if you read the law, you'll notice it applies to all religious symbols, not only muslim ones.My point was in relation with the thread. The fact is that crosses and kippas were never part of the equation. Nor was the hijab before 9/11. This Law was passed overwhelmingly out of fears in the face of radical Islam and in response to the Sharia which was perceived as an infringment of Women s Rights, a danger to their lives but moreover a threat to republican values. Big Fuss... Big Talk...But luckily the muslim community got the message, ackowledged the favour and the little rooster saved all its feathers.
Of course not; that wasn't a hate crime.....he was telling the G-d's honest truth!!
Hate crimes and prosecution are for such when you say things that have no basis in reality in order to drum up hatred for a group OR to perpetrate crimes of hate against a group (ie., nazi grafitti, Death to Juice, cross burnings) ...Wilders had plenty of honest goings on to teach and warn people about...
Quite enough Mosques are used just for the exact purpose of planning crimes, hiding caches of weapons and terrorists themselves, and not only does it incriminate the innocent Mosque goers, it makes Mosques targets for anti-terrorism activities, both in peace and in times of war.
I dont know if I am missing some thing but have just sat and watched several interviews of Geert Wilder and cannot see why he should be prosecuted.
Correction, most non-Jewish people consider Judaism to be a religion. We consider ourselves a nation and do not care how others define us.
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