"It is cheap to attack Israel. I am certainly not going to make a cheap attack on Israel by howling in the woods with the rest of the wolves." - Geert Wilders
The Assyrians and Jews: 3,000 years of common history There is a lot of data referred in the comments section of the article as well.
Thanks DNA. I'm familiar with the post and Razib as always is pretty thorough. The studies have been coming fast given the interest in Hapmap and other initiatives. There are some doubters on this forum about the genetic underpinnings of nearly all Jewish populations and the Levant. That should be in the past tense at this point.
It seems to be more or less universally accepted now that most major Jewish populations, including very isolated and far flung communities like the Bukharim, are ancestrally more closely related to each other than to host populations. There are notable exceptions mentioned in that article, especially Yemenis, some Indians and all Ethiopians. I think I might also recall having read, a long time ago (so I may be wrong) that the mitochondrial DNA of about half of Ashkenazi Jews indicates descent from European women.
The largest single Ashkenazi MT DNA cluster is the K Haplotype which is Mediterranean/Middle Eastern.
Taimanim are also not a close match with any Arab population, and are intermediate between the Jordanians and Mizrahi population- being very different from native Yemenites. We also do not have decent testing of Indian Jewish populations, most of whom will be close to the Mizrahi cluster but some no doubt closer to the Indian population. Also it's worth noting that most Jews mentioned are closer to Samaritans and Lebanese than either are to "Palestinians" and Jordanians.
BTW, I distinctly remember you poo-pooing all this evidence in some thread Curly.
You're likely referring to our discussion of the conversion issue. There I said that defining Judaism exclusively as an ethnicity or ancestral connection was clearly unsatisfactory given the large numbers of people whom we accept as Jews who are almost certainly local converts or heavily intermarried (e.g. the populations we just noted).
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