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    What does it mean:

    "You cant have your cake and eat it too"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bararallu View Post
    What does it mean:

    "You cant have your cake and eat it too"
    You can't eat your cake and then still have it. Once you've eaten your cake, it is gone.
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

    "Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayag View Post
    You can't eat your cake and then still have it. Once you've eaten your cake, it is gone.
    You still have your cake in either case though.

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    If your mother calls you a bastard, she should know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    If your mother calls you a bastard, she should know.
    You know my mother never has. That said, my grandmother had uttered the words "mamzerook" on a number of occasions with me in the direct vicinity and no other child . I hope she was just daydreaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bararallu View Post
    What does it mean:

    "You cant have your cake and eat it too"
    It means that the "Palestinians" can't have their own Judenrein state, while at the same time demanding the "Law of Return" to a "state of all her citizens" (i.e. Israel)....
    "Study astronomy and physics if you desire to comprehend the relation between the world and G-d's management of it." - RaMBaM (Maimonides), Guide For The Perplexed

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    Quote Originally Posted by bararallu View Post
    You still have your cake in either case though.
    You still have your cake as it passes through your digestive system, but eventually it will be gone.
    "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"

    "Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).

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    Why does "Chock Full of Nuts" coffee have any nuts at all? Coffee's from beans not nuts.

    Why is it you blow air in your dog's face it winces but they stick their heads out the car window?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    Why does "Chock Full of Nuts" coffee have any nuts at all? Coffee's from beans not nuts.

    Why is it you blow air in your dog's face it winces but they stick their heads out the car window?
    Hazelnut is a coffee nut here in NYC.

    Now the dog hypothetical is just that. It doesn't really get into an existential issue that I would like to talk about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayag View Post
    You still have your cake as it passes through your digestive system, but eventually it will be gone.
    Then there is the truism: "you are what you eat"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliyah1995 View Post
    It means that the "Palestinians" can't have their own Judenrein state, while at the same time demanding the "Law of Return" to a "state of all her citizens" (i.e. Israel)....
    Ah a metaphorical response. If the Palestinians are game for a Judenrein state, are they also game for a "Palestinian" state. Since the cake is, hypothetically, "Palestine" and the eating of it is all the constitiuent clans being happy... no?

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    I don't know if you are satisfied with the answers, but it usually means there are two highly desirable options for you, but you can't have them both at the same time. For instance, a guy has lots of gorgeous girlfriends -- a different one every night! However, one of those beautiful women wants to get married and start a family. He is in love with that one girlfriend and wants to get married. However, if he does, he can no longer have the girlfriends. In other words, he can't have everything he wants. Thus, he can't have his cake and eat it, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayag View Post
    You can't eat your cake and then still have it. Once you've eaten your cake, it is gone.
    To elaborate a bit, let's say you have a beautifully decorated cake. A professional baker has decorated it into a piece of art. It's beautiful! And you love looking at it. However, you are also hungry for cake and want to cut the cake to eat it. But if you cut the cake all up, it will no longer be beautiful. Thus, you literally cannot have your beautiful cake and eat it, too!

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    Adara, the phrase is plainly semantically challenged

    To Have, is to Eat, To eat is to have. To consume is to posses something utterly; enough to stuff down ones gullet and then have seconds. I actually started this thread as a joke, but I stick by my assessment... it is a nonsensical phrase either way this cake gets divvied up.

    As far as the guy with the multiple girlfriends goes.. obviously yours is not a description of the typical Jewish neurotic guy, who's lucky to have a girlfriend at all. OR one of our well peacocked arsim: & no marriage will stop the latter from pursuing yet more girlfriends, or cakes... er yeah cakes.

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