is israelforum becoming ummah.com like?

[ygalg1]

I posted a thread where I posted a news report from Jerusalem post.
an interview of Ali Sina.
Muslim Mindset: 'The hatred is in Muhammad himself'

the thread closed in pretext

This forum does not endorse or tolerate the opinion of the likes of Ali Sina and will not serve as platform for spreading this kind of propoganda.

delivered by sharonbn.

in result I posted a thread to express my unsatisfactory from sharonbn of his unethical behavior.

here what I posted in the lounge:

sharonbn calls Ali sina's years of work a 'propaganda'.
Ali Sina provides information supported by evidences. but sharonbn have not made the comment out of research. resorts to ad hominem without refuting Ali's comments in the article. decides to close the thread.

I will post his comments in FFI for everyone to see.
and if he has a bit of integrity, he will come to elaborate at FFI why Ali Sina is been silenced.

adding the link FFI

I find his moderation inappropriate and bias. and NewsGuy should note.

ygalg

FFI
this thread deleted.

I wonder why no intervention made from kettlewhistle nor from Mediocrates?
or I'm to assume sharonbn behavior acceptable by all here???

NewsGuy, you have a moderator who misuse his privileges. or he merely represented your position?

[Justcurious]

I found the address of the IsraelForum in the Ummah.com site, so here at least the two sites serve each other.

[NewsGuy]

I found the address of the IsraelForum in the Ummah.com site, so here at least the two sites serve each other.

Good. I hope that the terrorist supporting ummah.com members will view IsraelForum as their antithesis.

[andak01]

Good. I hope that the terrorist supporting ummah.com members will view IsraelForum as their antithesis.

I think it's more like the worst aspects of ummah.com have come home to roost here. When an admiring thread is started about a man whose sole goal in life is to erradicate Islam, I don't see that is any more tolerant than someone whose sole goal in life is to erradicate Judaism. This should be an unacceptable part of IF discourse. In fact such discourse serves the purposes of Islamic radicals by feeding their propaganda that the West is at war with Islam, not terrorism.

What I found nauseating about the thread was that one poster called for total genocide of all Muslims and then was "moderated" by someone else saying that total apostacy would do.

Imagine a poster coming in here and stating that all Jews should be killed and another saying that the destruction of all synogogues and outlawing of Judaism would "do"!!! Would you find that nauseating?

[NewsGuy]

I think it's more like the worst aspects of ummah.com have come home to roost here.

Interesting.

Have you gotten the chance to complain to ummah.com lately about their hate speech and support for terrorism?

[andak01]

Interesting.

Have you gotten the chance to complain to ummah.com lately about their hate speech and support for terrorism?

Not recently, although I did some while back. I haven't visited in probably over a year.

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showpost....69&postcount=1

[ygalg1]

When an admiring thread is started about a man whose sole goal in life is to erradicate Islam, I don't see that is any more tolerant than someone whose sole goal in life is to erradicate Judaism. This should be an unacceptable part of IF discourse. In fact such discourse serves the purposes of Islamic radicals by feeding their propaganda that the West is at war with Islam, not terrorism.

that cause Islam, by evidences it's not a religion but an ideology that perpetuate hate and division of humans. and you too in love to see that.

now, if someone can prove that Judaism is a Nazi like I would be in support to eradicate it.

Islam is what breeds terrorists.

What I found nauseating about the thread was that one poster called for total genocide of all Muslims and then was "moderated" by someone else saying that total apostacy would do.

such a poster is not representative of FFI. this is not the purpose of FFI.

Imagine a poster coming in here and stating that all Jews should be killed and another saying that the destruction of all synogogues and outlawing of Judaism would "do"!!! Would you find that nauseating?

such a poster who endorse killing would be banned. and they are get banned when reported.

[NewsGuy]

I haven't heard of Ali Sina until now, but from a quick wiki search, I found the entry for FFI:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_F..._International

I have often said that IMO, at the very least Wahabbi Islam should not be treated as a tax-exempt religion, but as an ideology that should not be sponsored by the American taxpayer.

It seems to be a legitimate philosophy or at least a point of discussion, and I'm not sure why sharonbn censored it, although he does have the authority to do so.

Sharon, I'm curious, why censor Ali Sina's opinion?

[ygalg1]

sharonbn should take the invitation made by Ali Sina himself for a debate there or here

or

should admit he made a mistake and reopen the thread.

[KettleWhistle]

When an admiring thread is started about a man whose sole goal in life is to erradicate Islam, I don't see that is any more tolerant than someone whose sole goal in life is to erradicate Judaism.

Imagine a poster coming in here and stating that all Jews should be killed and another saying that the destruction of all synogogues and outlawing of Judaism would "do"!!! Would you find that nauseating?

Many Jews had a goal of eradicating Judaism. There is a difference between saying "destroy all the synagogues" and "kill all Jews".

[andak01]

Many Jews had a goal of eradicating Judaism. There is a difference between saying "destroy all the synagogues" and "kill all Jews".

That splitting of hairs wouldn't make the difference between a poster being banned here for saying it. And BTW, if I still had the authority, I'd be the first to vote them off the island for saying it. I don't find that kind of speech aimed at Jews any more acceptable than when it is aimed at Muslims.

[NewsGuy]

I wonder why no intervention made from kettlewhistle nor from Mediocrates?
or I'm to assume sharonbn behavior acceptable by all here???

NewsGuy, you have a moderator who misuse his privileges. or he merely represented your position?

ygalg,

The moderators here have the mandate to make their own judgments, based on our RoR.

I'm not familiar offhand with Ali Sina's article, nor am I very familiar with ummah.com (although I've visited there a few years ago briefly and found it to be a haven for anti-Semitism and Islamic terror supporters).

I'm sure that you can find plenty of threads criticizing Muhammad, which is a legitimate religion topic, and I'm sure that you can comfortably start your own discussion on that topic.

I would suggest that you use quotes from your source sparingly, as a basis for developing your own post, and offer specific points for discussion. I doubt that such a post would be censored.

[ygalg1]

ygalg,

The moderators here have the mandate to make their own judgments, based on our RoR.

I'm not familiar offhand with Ali Sina's article, nor am I very familiar with ummah.com (although I've visited there a few years ago briefly and found it to be a haven for anti-Semitism and Islamic terror supporters).

I'm sure that you can find plenty of threads criticizing Muhammad, which is a legitimate religion topic, and I'm sure that you can comfortably start your own discussion on that topic.

I would suggest that you use quotes from your source sparingly, as a basis for developing your own post, and offer specific points for discussion. I doubt that such a post would be censored.

thank you for your reply dear NewsGuy. that is reassuring that israelforum is israelforum and not ummah.com which is the counterpart to stormfront.

I witness sharonbn in his last modeartion to be unetichal.

he violeted the RoR.

1.We have no desire to censor valuable content.

2.We have no desire to impose our views on others.

3.Everyone has the right to express his/her opinion, regardless of how vehemently some may disagree with their views. However, common courtesy is required.

of course it is your decision to occupy him as one of moderators but IMHO he deserves not.

here a reply from Ali Sina himself to sharonbn's conduct.

Hmm! That is amazing! I would have never thought a Jew would ban my views in this way. Considering the fact that I am a paid agent of the Jews

Now on a more serious note. I would like to know why this gentleman has such negative views about me. Would he be just as intolerant towards a person who opposes Nazism? Would he call such person a propagandist? What if Islam is a lot more evil, dangerous and anti Semite than Nazism?

The more I see other forums, the more I like FFI forum. We never ban any discussion unless it is plain stupid and insults. Opposing ideas never frighten us. There are only two possibilities. Those who have different views from us are either wrong or they are right. If they are wrong, we can easily show their errors and who knows, we may even win them to our side. If they are right, then we would be fools to ban them and deprive ourselves from their views. I would be grateful to anyone who spends his time freely to correct my errors.

If this gentleman is not willing to come to this forum to show my errors, I am ready to go to his forum, provided he does not ban me. )

this was sharonbn post before locking the thread.

This forum does not endorse or tolerate the opinion of the likes of Ali Sina and will not serve as platform for spreading this kind of propoganda.