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    Steven
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    Telling the Truth is Islam Bashing?

    Telling the Truth is Islam Bashing?
    Thursday, 17 July 2008
    I am bombarded by hate and threats by the Allah-fearing fanatics, simply because I speak the truth about Islam. If telling the truth about Islam is Islam bashing, then mea culpa.

    Question: Does Islam get a pass because it is a religion? Who says Islam is a religion? Millions do? What is the evidence? The words of masses of brainwashed carriers of the Islamic virus, transmitted to them by their parents, are worthless as evidence. What counts is the irrefutable fact that this creed, claimed to be the one and only religion of Allah, has been and continues to be a source of great suffering for non-Muslims as well as the ignorant masses of Muslims themselves.

    I will share with you just a few of thousands of horrific things that Muslims do to people of other religions or those without any religion at all. In model Islamic states such as Saudi Arabia and Iran, for instance, women don’t dare complain about their Allah-decreed chattel status. If they protest in the least, they are beaten by their husbands. And if they dare to demonstrate in public for equal family rights with men, they get severe beatings by the police and hauled to jails for additional indignities and violence.

    One may wonder then why is it that millions of Muslim women meekly submit to their subservient rank and worship and thank Allah for it. These women are virtually imprinted by their parents and the clergy from birth to adopt the gender inequality as well as the entire pathological Islamic ethos.

    “Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the others and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you take no further action against them. Allah is high, supreme.” Quran 4.34

    Even Egypt, the crown jewel of Arab-Islamic world is practicing a form of slow genocide against its own Baha’i citizens by depriving them of just about all rights of citizenship. Baha’is are still denied the indispensable identity card, simply because the powerful clergy want to eliminate the peaceful minority. Among other things, Egypt denies education to Baha’i children, taking a page from the “Mein Kampf” of the fascist Islamic Republic of Iran.

    The record of atrocities performed by the proponents of the “religion of peace” clearly condemns it as an unmitigated cult of the worst kind. The savage Muslims forced their creed of hate and violence at the point of the sword on my people. They did and continue to do everything they could to wipe out any vestige of our magnificent Iranian culture and heritage. Now, they are ruling my native land with an iron fist, demeaning everything that we have treasured in our egalitarian-humanistic exemplary culture. They are forcing our women into prostitution by depriving them of means of livelihood, compelling hundreds of thousands of Iran’s best and brightest to leave for other lands, spearheading a vicious campaign of terrorism far and near, and muffling any voice that does not sing their praises.

    The Bible says “By their fruit shall ye know them.” I said this before and I’ll say it for as long as this vicious cult keeps up with its abominable deeds: Islam is violence. Islam is intolerant of non-Muslims. Islam is a vestige of a barbaric past. Islam must be confronted, shown for what it is and stopped from overtaking the world. Here are just a few examples of what these people of Allah had done recently.

    A guy stops a car in the city of Shiraz in Iran and asks the driver to give him some gasoline, pretending that his car has run out of fuel. The total stranger siphons gas from his own car and gives it to him. Suddenly some other guys show up from their hiding places, tie the man to a tree, douse him with the gasoline he had generously given to a total stranger, set him on fire and speed away in the sham “out-of- gasoline” car. Why? The target of the torching was a non-Muslim, a Baha’i. The “sin” of not being a Muslim made him a deserving party for being burned alive. These thugs of Allah, the savage torchers, call themselves the Unknown Soldiers of the Lord of the Age, (Imam Zaman), the Shiite’s much revered and expected savior.

    To make matters worse, all manner of “good Muslims” walked by and didn’t do a lick to help the man. Miraculously the man was able to put the fire out and call the police on his cell phone. It took the police over 30 minutes to respond and take the man to the station for questioning. Now that’s the Islam that is on the march. It has penetrated deeply and spread widely in Europe. It is changing Europe to its ways and holds every promise of doing the same to the United States.

    Many Europeans are fleeing their ancestral homeland ahead of the Islamic fire which is engulfing their countries. These are the affluent and the ones with foresight. Others are either oblivious to the threat, aim to accommodate it as the holy grail of multiculturalism, or will end up one day seeing themselves in the fight of their life. For Islam does not believe in multiculturalism. Islam is a mono-culturist: the barbarian culture of Islam. As Islam gains more power, it will inevitably impose itself and its ways on all others. And there will be those who will eventually wake up from their stupor, they will either completely capitulate or fight the Muslims back in bloody bock-by-block, street-by-street battles.

    Truth is not always welcome and can often be greatly disturbing. But truth is the best weapon against evil and falsehood. When I point out the horrific teachings of the Quran, I don’t make them up. I cite surahs from their holy book, surahs that exhort the Muslims to carry out all kinds of evil deeds against non-Muslims. This book of Allah is a license to kill. When I point out that Muhammad set terrible examples for his followers by his own deeds, I cite from their own sources to document my assertion.

    Is there anyone in this messed-up world who doesn’t read, see, or hear about the daily Islamic atrocities performed by these savages, with every act justified on the basis of Allah’s holy book?

    Qur’an 8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."

    Qur’an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."

    Why is it that these self-righteous Islamist villains don’t bother to prove me wrong? Why don’t they document what I say as being false? Instead, I am showered by all kinds of unspeakable profanity. Some of the more civil of the Muslims don’t stoop as low as their foul co-religionists. These latter types let out a hue and cry that they and their religion are smeared and victimized by people like me. They consider my criticisms of Islam as Islam bashing. They accuse me as a divisive- racist who enjoys Islam bashing. For good measure, they also label me Zionist, in the pay of Israel and Israeli lobbies. Who is bashing whom? Please prove any one of my charges to be false or fabricated and I’ll happily repent. If, on the other hand, you fail to do so, you owe it to humanity to abandon your allegiance to the scourge of Islam.

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    andak01
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    Telling the truth is not religion bashing. Cherry picking every act of violence done by one fifth of the world and pretending that murder, rape, intolerance, torture, etc. are the sole purview of Muslims is a load of poop. The fact that Christian based media and right wing militant bigots have taken it up doesn't make it more true. It's a political expedient and intelligent people should see it as such. The same people that rail about Muslim violence defend extralegal assassinations, torture, banning of mosques, inhibiting free speech of Muslims and generally reconstructing the framework of American law in a way that is specifically unfair to Muslims.

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    Steven
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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    Telling the truth is not religion bashing. Cherry picking every act of violence done by one fifth of the world and pretending that murder, rape, intolerance, torture, etc. are the sole purview of Muslims is a load of poop. The fact that Christian based media and right wing militant bigots have taken it up doesn't make it more true. It's a political expedient and intelligent people should see it as such. The same people that rail about Muslim violence defend extralegal assassinations, torture, banning of mosques, inhibiting free speech of Muslims and generally reconstructing the framework of American law in a way that is specifically unfair to Muslims.
    The continued actions of Muslims make it all true, itelligent people and there are OBVIOUSLY many on this board, know that there needs to be special rules when it comes to Islam.

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    andak01
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    Steve, it's time for you to take the quiz.

    The words of masses of brainwashed carriers of the Islamic virus, transmitted to them by their parents, are worthless as evidence.
    "I am obeying the highest law by doing my duty. Man must defend himself against bedbugs and rats -- against vermin."
    http://www.drmenlo.com/lgfquiz/

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    Steven
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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    Steve, it's time for you to take the quiz.



    "I am obeying the highest law by doing my duty. Man must defend himself against bedbugs and rats -- against vermin."
    http://www.drmenlo.com/lgfquiz/
    1.The thread is not about me.
    2. I do not care at all, what you think about me or my opinion.

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    andak01
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    And here I was thinking every thread is about you and islaminaction.

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    CanDo
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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    ... Cherry picking every act of violence done by one fifth of the world and pretending that murder, rape, intolerance, torture, etc. are the sole purview of Muslims is a load of poop.
    Perhaps the image of the Muslim world, as backward, mostly uneducated, unskilled and violent cultures is a little unjustified. But, that is the common perception by the more advanced, more civilized, more peaceful JudeoChristian world.

    Do you feel that the Muslim world could improve it's image by not burying women up to their necks and stoning them to death on minor, unproven charges? Honor killings, where a husband is allowed to murder his children or wife, are barbaric, but a frequent, accepted Muslim behavior. The Muslim world could also improve it's image by showing the ability to improve the standard of living and educational standards for it's people, so that they can be, at least, somewhat competitive against the rest of the world.

    Until things change throughout the Muslim world, the civilized world will still read, in their "non-government controlled" news about Muslim acts of horror, and think that these many Muslim inhuman acts is just a normal part of the way Islam is taught throughout the Muslim world.

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    savvy
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    Do you feel that the Muslim world could improve it's image by not burying women up to their necks and stoning them to death on minor, unproven charges? Honor killings, where a husband is allowed to murder his children or wife, are barbaric, but a frequent, accepted Muslim behavior. The Muslim world could also improve it's image by showing the ability to improve the standard of living and educational standards for it's people, so that they can be, at least, somewhat competitive against the rest of the world.
    Well said, and it would help if Muslims did not import these practices into the rest of the world. Honour killings are happening even in Western nations, polygamy is practiced and even taught in Muslim schools.

    On the other hand, I wonder how civilized we are anymore. The Greek philospher Socrates said it was possible to know virtue, truth, and morality. He was tried and sentenced to death. Suprisingly the Socrates method has all but vanished from our secular education system. Sophistry and Moral relativism are breeding grounds for Islamic nonsense to flourish.

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    CanDo
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    Quote Originally Posted by savvy View Post
    ... Honour killings are happening even in Western nations, polygamy is practiced and even taught in Muslim schools.
    Islam has been used by power-hungry corrupt despots to enslave, as Muslims, countless millions of families throughout this world. We should not allow the mind-numbing Islamic doctrine to continue to enslave the Muslim masses within the US, but we do. We look the other way. We allow their dreadful mind-numbing schools to operate, almost as a foreign entity in the US. It's not only a disgrace, but it is harmful.

    On the other hand, I wonder how civilized we are anymore.
    If anything, we are civilized to the point we are senile. We provide and pay for free legal help to repeat felons. We are not allowed coercive interrogation of terrorist prisoners, even to save the lives of our families and communities. When we have a chance to take out the world's worst nutcases, like Chavez, or the rulers of Iran, or the rulers of North Korea, we don't do it. We allow the enslavement and indoctrination of masses of Muslims, by radical Islam, right here in the US.

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    andak01
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    Thank goodness I come from a Christian family. They came over from England. Some of them settled in New England on land formerly owned by Native Americans that they committed genocide against, and another portion settled in the South where they committed genocide against the natives and cultivated the land with tens of thousands of slaves. Then, after one of the bloodiest wars that mankind has ever known, they imposed Jim Crow laws on those former slaves and decorated the trees with their corpses.

    THIS IS THE REAL RELIGION OF PEACE. Of course what they did to the Indians wasn't any worse than what they had done to the Jews in the lands they left behind. But, for political reasons, we'll be erasing all that from history and pretend that Christians are incapable of doing what Christians did during the Holocaust and what Christians did in Rwanda and what Christians did in Bosnia.

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    Steven
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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    Thank goodness I come from a Christian family. They came over from England. Some of them settled in New England on land formerly owned by Native Americans that they committed genocide against, and another portion settled in the South where they committed genocide against the natives and cultivated the land with tens of thousands of slaves. Then, after one of the bloodiest wars that mankind has ever known, they imposed Jim Crow laws on those former slaves and decorated the trees with their corpses.

    THIS IS THE REAL RELIGION OF PEACE. Of course what they did to the Indians wasn't any worse than what they had done to the Jews in the lands they left behind. But, for political reasons, we'll be erasing all that from history and pretend that Christians are incapable of doing what Christians did during the Holocaust and what Christians did in Rwanda and what Christians did in Bosnia.

    Anything to take the focus off of what Muslims are doing today. Muslims are the only group on a worldwide jihad.

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    andak01
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    Anything to take the focus off of what Muslims are doing today. Muslims are the only group on a worldwide jihad.
    And what do you call what you and your hate mongering propaganda sites do? God forbid we should take focus off hating Muslims long enough to evaluate what Muslims actually do 99% of the time. Forget that there are 1,300,000,000 Muslims in the world and only (including every level of act) 10,000 acts of terrorism per year. So there isn't any possible way that 10,000 acts can be committed by anywhere near 1,300,000,000 people.

    Let's not take the focus off what any Muslim with a gun does long enough to thing about why he has a gun in the first place. So a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times as much press as the Muslim policeman he kills. And a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times the press of the translator he kills. And a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times the press of the informant he kills. And a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times the press of the Muslim American soldier he kills. And a Muslim extremist in Darfur gets fifty times the press of the moderate Muslim he sends into a refugee camp. And a Muslim who blows up a building in Casablanca gets a hundred times the press of the tens of thousands that march in protest against him. And a Muslim imam preaching hatred gets a hundred times the press of a Muslim imam preaching tolerance. And a Muslim judge sentencing someone to be stoned gets a hundred times the press of a Muslim judge sentencing a terrorist to be executed.

    No, no. You can't lose that focus. Because if you lose it for a second we'll start to look like human beings instead of your Ueberungetum (super monster) image of us.

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    Steven
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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    And what do you call what you and your hate mongering propaganda sites do? God forbid we should take focus off hating Muslims long enough to evaluate what Muslims actually do 99% of the time. Forget that there are 1,300,000,000 Muslims in the world and only (including every level of act) 10,000 acts of terrorism per year. So there isn't any possible way that 10,000 acts can be committed by anywhere near 1,300,000,000 people.

    Let's not take the focus off what any Muslim with a gun does long enough to thing about why he has a gun in the first place. So a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times as much press as the Muslim policeman he kills. And a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times the press of the translator he kills. And a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times the press of the informant he kills. And a Muslim terrorist gets fifty times the press of the Muslim American soldier he kills. And a Muslim extremist in Darfur gets fifty times the press of the moderate Muslim he sends into a refugee camp. And a Muslim who blows up a building in Casablanca gets a hundred times the press of the tens of thousands that march in protest against him. And a Muslim imam preaching hatred gets a hundred times the press of a Muslim imam preaching tolerance. And a Muslim judge sentencing someone to be stoned gets a hundred times the press of a Muslim judge sentencing a terrorist to be executed.

    No, no. You can't lose that focus. Because if you lose it for a second we'll start to look like human beings instead of your Ueberungetum (super monster) image of us.
    It is not hate, it is called awareness and the Islamic community has had more then enough time to change. Now the problem is in our backyard and we have the right to speak about it.

    We also know that violence is not the only problem that Islam brings. Political Islam is just as big of threat. Non-Muslims are sick of the Islamic community whining about what offends them. If guys do not like it here, go move to an Islamic country.

    Like I keep telling you, you are wasting your time here. Go convince hate preaching, imposing and murdering Muslims to change their ways.

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    andak01
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    It is not hate, it is called awareness and the Islamic community has had more then enough time to change.
    And what is it you find most offensive about Muslims? Oh yeah, the mere thought that we are asking YOU to change (whether or not we are). So here you are threatening us unless WE change. Kewl.

    Now the problem is in our backyard and we have the right to speak about it.
    You certainly do have the right to speak about it. And I have the right to response. So stop asking me to shut up.

    We also know that violence is not the only problem that Islam brings.
    This assumes that Islam brings violence. That's something you've had to cobble together by focusing on every violent act by any Muslim and omitting every violent act by any non-Muslim. So a Muslim murder is attributed to Islam and a Christian murder, even when God is invoked is attributed to insanity or misreading of Christian texts, etc.

    Political Islam is just as big of threat. Non-Muslims are sick of the Islamic community whining about what offends them. If guys do not like it here, go move to an Islamic country.
    Gosh, sorry, but I find crime offensive. I find Muslim crime offensive and Christian crime. To me a murder victim isn't more dead because they were killed by a Muslim. Hate speech isn't more hateful if delivered by a Muslim. A rape victim isn't more raped for having been raped by a Muslim. Muslim rape is rape and should be handled that way, including capital punishment where appropriate. Honour killing is murder and should be punished accordingly just like any other murder. Government oppression and human rights issues are wrong whether they are done in Egypt or Cuba or North Korea.

    But you can't see it that way. Stop the world! We can ignore nuclear proliferation in North Korea and religious persecution in Bhutan and child marriages in Nepal and sex slavery in Eastern Europe and rape/tortures in Mexico and gang violence and Jews being beaten up by skinheads. None of that matters because of the Muslim boogeyman!

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    Steven
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    Quote Originally Posted by andak01 View Post
    And what is it you find most offensive about Muslims? Oh yeah, the mere thought that we are asking YOU to change (whether or not we are). So here you are threatening us unless WE change. Kewl.



    You certainly do have the right to speak about it. And I have the right to response. So stop asking me to shut up.



    This assumes that Islam brings violence. That's something you've had to cobble together by focusing on every violent act by any Muslim and omitting every violent act by any non-Muslim. So a Muslim murder is attributed to Islam and a Christian murder, even when God is invoked is attributed to insanity or misreading of Christian texts, etc.



    Gosh, sorry, but I find crime offensive. I find Muslim crime offensive and Christian crime. To me a murder victim isn't more dead because they were killed by a Muslim. Hate speech isn't more hateful if delivered by a Muslim. A rape victim isn't more raped for having been raped by a Muslim. Muslim rape is rape and should be handled that way, including capital punishment where appropriate. Honour killing is murder and should be punished accordingly just like any other murder. Government oppression and human rights issues are wrong whether they are done in Egypt or Cuba or North Korea.
    This country and Europe was not founded on Islamic culture and yes Muslims are slowly changing the West to suit their needs. If they do not like the way things are here, they should not come here. The legal backlash against imposing Muslims is coming and they deserve it.

    Save the Islam does not bring violence nonsense for some head in the sand liberals. Christianity is not the problem nor are the Jews. Islam is, Muslims prove that everyday.

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