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    Gilgamesh
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    Bob Dylan - Man of peace ("infidels" , 1983)

    Look out your window, baby, there's a scene you'd like to catch,
    The band is playing "Dixie," a man got his hand outstretched.
    Could be the Fuhrer
    Could be the local priest.
    You know sometimes
    Satan comes as a man of peace.

    He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue,
    He knows every song of love that ever has been sung.
    Good intentions can be evil,
    Both hands can be full of grease.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, first he's in the background, then he's in the front,
    Both eyes are looking like they're on a rabbit hunt.
    Nobody can see through him,
    No, not even the Chief of Police.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, he catch you when you're hoping for a glimpse of the sun,
    Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton.
    He could be standing next to you,
    The person that you'd notice least.
    I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull,
    He can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull.
    I can smell something cooking,
    I can tell there's going to be a feast.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    He's a great humanitarian, he's a great philanthropist,
    He knows just where to touch you, honey, and how you like to be kissed.
    He'll put both his arms around you,
    You can feel the tender touch of the beast.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl,
    Trees that've stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall.
    Wanna get married? Do it now,
    Tomorrow all activity will cease.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Somewhere Mama's weeping for her blue-eyed boy,
    She's holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
    And he's following a star,
    The same one them three men followed from the East.
    I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.



    Copyright © 1983 Special Rider Music

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    victot
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    pardon my ignorance, but i don't get the meaning of this one...
    could you explain it?

    neighborhood bully was a great song though, i hope to post its lyrics around my university to maybe help combat evil leftist propoganda...

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    elke
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    Originally posted by victot
    pardon my ignorance, but i don't get the meaning of this one...
    could you explain it?

    neighborhood bully was a great song though, i hope to post its lyrics around my university to maybe help combat evil leftist propoganda...
    IMO, this song may actually be even better at combatting propaganda, left and right... even though it is more general than the other one.

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    Gilgamesh
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    Originally posted by victot
    pardon my ignorance, but i don't get the meaning of this one...
    could you explain it?

    neighborhood bully was a great song though, i hope to post its lyrics around my university to maybe help combat evil leftist propoganda...
    In a nut shell: "sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace"

    Not every other guy, who SAYS he's a man of peace, is realy truely a man of peace... he could be Satan worshiper. See the pope (the pope as the establishment, like the Vatican of cristianity), see Hitler (like the munich pact, 1938), see Arafat (white house, 1993)
    see USSR (and the global peace leage), see the EU peace- keepers in Rowanda (the Belguem), Bosnia (Netherland) and elsewhere... The saudi "peace" intiative... (the list is long...)

    Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl,
    Trees that've stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall.
    Wanna get married? Do it now,
    Tomorrow all activity will cease.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.


    Omens of approaching doom. People surrendered to Satan, a false man of peace, becuase they where fooled, surrendered to their own illusions and well wishings. ignored reality.

    Somewhere Mama's weeping for her blue-eyed boy,

    death (of a soldier ? of a blinded foolish follower ?), grieveness of bereaved mother.

    She's holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
    image of grieve, broken future, end of self illusions.

    And he's following a star,
    The same one them three men followed from the East.


    Full frontal attack against Christianity in particular and fighting religions in general (fighting religions: religions that support holy wars and religious discrimination, religions that hope for world domination).

    I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

    Jesus = Satan (!?)

    Seems to me, ol'Dylan loves a good provocation, many of his songs hold the increaption key in the punchline, the last block (what's the exact English term? ) explains it all.

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    Groucho
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    Re: Bob Dylan - Man of peace ("infidels" , 1983)

    Originally posted by Gilgamesh
    Look out your window, baby, there's a scene you'd like to catch,
    The band is playing "Dixie," a man got his hand outstretched.
    Could be the Fuhrer
    Could be the local priest.
    You know sometimes
    Satan comes as a man of peace.

    He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue,
    He knows every song of love that ever has been sung.
    Good intentions can be evil,
    Both hands can be full of grease.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, first he's in the background, then he's in the front,
    Both eyes are looking like they're on a rabbit hunt.
    Nobody can see through him,
    No, not even the Chief of Police.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, he catch you when you're hoping for a glimpse of the sun,
    Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton.
    He could be standing next to you,
    The person that you'd notice least.
    I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull,
    He can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull.
    I can smell something cooking,
    I can tell there's going to be a feast.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    He's a great humanitarian, he's a great philanthropist,
    He knows just where to touch you, honey, and how you like to be kissed.
    He'll put both his arms around you,
    You can feel the tender touch of the beast.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl,
    Trees that've stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall.
    Wanna get married? Do it now,
    Tomorrow all activity will cease.
    You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

    Somewhere Mama's weeping for her blue-eyed boy,
    She's holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
    And he's following a star,
    The same one them three men followed from the East.
    I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.



    Copyright © 1983 Special Rider Music


    Im a Dylan fan - but I really like Paul Simon

    "Disagreements..work em out (from 'Old' (2000)" and "Silent Eyes', well worth a listen. Also Don McLean's "Jerusalem"
    Good stuff!

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    Gilgamesh
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    Re: Re: Bob Dylan - Man of peace ("infidels" , 1983)

    Originally posted by Groucho

    "Disagreements..work em out (from 'Old' (2000)" and "Silent Eyes', well worth a listen. Also Don McLean's "Jerusalem"
    Good stuff!
    can you reffer me to their lyrics, please? ( I mean, do you have a link at hand? )

    I like Paul Simon too!!! I can't tell which poem i like best...

    What do you think of Sting? "I'm lost without you"

    I find him funny... There's that line there... "A city in the desert lies... " where he refers it to jerusalem. How stupid of him!!!

    Jerusalem is on top a several mountains (700-800 meters above see level) and surrounded by ever green forests. Its even snows every other winter!!! what desert is he talking about? Maybe if the song went about Be'er-Sheva... or Dimona... or Eilat... or Jericho... or Yeruham... or Mitzpe Ramon... or Ein Gedi... or Offakim... or Sederot...

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    victot
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    thanks gilgamesh for the explanation.

    i don't like this song so much as an anti-propoganda song for the israel situation...

    in this song does he renounce his christianity? i guess i like that though.

    peace.

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    Gilgamesh
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    Originally posted by victot
    thanks gilgamesh for the explanation.

    i don't like this song so much as an anti-propoganda song for the israel situation...

    in this song does he renounce his christianity? i guess i like that though.

    peace.
    Bob Dylan is a Jew, very leftic, very complex and quite wierd, but a Jew. His real name is Bob Zimermann. I've no idea, yet, what's his Jewish name is. Rumer has it, that in the 90's, he came closer, in a way, to Judasim, as he went to several secret interviews with th late Rabbi Mendel Shneorson (blesed memory of a rightuas man).

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    victot
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    ...but he is no longer a believing christian, right? he renounced that, i was told... i thought he went back to judaism.

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    Gilgamesh
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    Originally posted by victot
    ...but he is no longer a believing christian, right? he renounced that, i was told... i thought he went back to judaism.
    AFIK, Bob Dylan never was a christian, maybe an atheist but never a christian. And then again, maybe I'm wrong...

    At any rate, Dylan was born and raised as a Jew. This I know for certain.

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    martinw718
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    Originally posted by victot
    ...but he is no longer a believing christian, right? he renounced that, i was told... i thought he went back to judaism.
    He was somewhat into messianic themes. I don't know if he made any formal commitment. He never announced that he'd "converted" or "renounced" -- either one.

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    Re: Bob Dylan - Man of peace ("infidels" , 1983)

    THANK YOU, Gilgamesh ! I have searched the internet for YEARS for what is obvious in this song, but denied by Dylan fans and never discussed in any interviews with Dylan. Indeed it is a "
    Full frontal attack against Christianity" and specifically directly a full frontal attack on Jesus! The "star in the east" leads to Jesus, not any particular church within Christianity, therefore Dylan is renouncing his three years of faith in Jesus publically in this song. (Infidels followed Dylan's three "Gospel" albums.) Many Dylan songs leave much much room for interpretation and other Dylan songs are crystal clear(Man of Peace being crystal! ) Still the question remains-what does Dylan believe? In 1984, he secrectly married his Christian back-up vocalist, Carolyn Dennis and during their marriage, from 1984-1991, continued performing from his Gospel albums. Then after their divorce in 1992, Dylan went back to Chabad and did a telethon for them. Since then, in 2009, he did a Christmas album with half the songs on the album being religious ones. In an interview with Bill Flanagan about the Christmas album , Flanagan says "you sang like a real believer"--Dylan replys " I am a real believer". -- Dylan also stated in 1984 Rolling Stone Magazine interview that he was "never born again". These days/Years now, he has eye of Horus logo backdrop at all his shows and even on most of the mechandise sold at his web site, bobdylan.com. He has praised Masons on his radio show, never performs from his Gospel songs anymore (if he were a Christian he would). He has distanced himself from Chabad and many people after watching the 60 Minutes interview with Ed Bradley in 2004 see it as a confession of involvement with dark forces within the music industry. (one does not bargain with God for riches and fame"where I got now" and in return give God a never ending tour"I'm keeping my end of the bargain" in ANY religion. God does not care if Dylan performs--that would be what the music industry would want!! Clearly he is very serious and sober in that interview, on the verge of outright despondant throughout it! (other than one nervous giggle). Being objective, there is NO evidence that Dylan is a practicing Jew or Christian--except in the hopes and wishes of die-hard fans !

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    Re: Bob Dylan - Man of peace ("infidels" , 1983)

    Wow, a reply to a 10 year old post. Are no topics archived or locked after a certain period of inactivity?
    I think Gilgamesh may be the original judging by the date

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