Russia's war on Georgia

[Mil]

I know more then he does.... In Russia it's really easy to pick up good looking chikitas. The standard for Russian women is lot lower then in the States and there are a lot more of them to begin with.

Jewish men are very much in-demand with Russian women. Jewish men don't drink (relatively speaking), are considered good devoted family patriarchs and are not known to f** around. Takeo should definetly settle in Russia - Moscow is a very good place to get laid easily.

[takeo]

I know more then he does.... In Russia it's really easy to pick up good looking chikitas. The standard for Russian women is lot lower then in the States and there are a lot more of them to begin with.

Jewish men are very much in-demand with Russian women. Jewish men don't drink (relatively speaking), are considered good devoted family patriarchs and are not known to f** around. Takeo should definetly settle in Russia - Moscow is a very good place to get laid easily.

It depends, Moscow chicks are definately beautiful but not as easy. If you want easy go to some provincial Russian city or Kyrgyzstan or something like that, just invite anyone you see, it'll be easy.
Also in the former SU the man has to pay for everything, restaurant, most expensive dancings, etc. In some provincial city that's still ok, in Moscow it'll break your wallit. Anyway I don't do this kind of stuff anymore, I've found the real and only one
It's true Jewish and foreign men are in high demand. Russians are generally more lasy and more alcoholic. But don't try any of those internet dating sites. It's all a big scam.
There are some beautiful US chicks but not too many, and I've heard they can be real bi**hes. What about Israel? didn't try my chance but they sure look great.
Don't go to Georgia or Armenia, they're ugly and not easy at all. The most beautiful girls in my experience are the Tatar girls in Kazan. Everyone says I look Tatar rather than Jewish.

[Mil]

What is the Jewish look?

[takeo]

What is the Jewish look?

there isn't any I think. But there is definately an Israeli look, which seems to be more influenced by Jews who immigrated from the Middle East.

[Mediocrates]

You mean pogrommed from the middle east.

[Mil]

My brother-n-law is small, dark skinned, and Jewish. His entire family is from Moscow.

[Reffo]

Chechnya is a recognised part of Russia. Chechnyans have their own autonomous republic, Russians never abolished this republic nor did they abolish the Chechen language as official language in Chechnya. That's exactly what the Georgians did in Abkhazia and South-Ossetia in 1991.

You keep on keeping on losing the thread of our debate. But then again, are you really here to debate? Or are you just here to agitate against Israel and spread your propaganda?

This is how we got to this point:

1. I said that both Jews and Arabs had the right to immigrate to Palestine between the late 1800s and 1948 because at that time Palestine was not owned by either the Jews or the Arabs. It was owned first by Turkey and then by the Brits.
2. You then claimed that Palestine was Arab land because most people spoke Arabic [Of course you neglected to mention that Jews lived there even longer and that even then, Jews were in the majority in places like Jerusalem]
3. I then said that by that standard Chechnya should be Chechen land and asked you what the Russians are doing in Chechnya.

And your answer is that Chechnya is a recognized part of Russia. Well then, I tell you that Palestine then was a recognised part of: First Turkey and later of England and that therefore people could immigrate there, whether Arab or Jewish, as long as the masters of the land allowed them to immigrate. OK Takeo?

[bararallu]

Obviously the politburo has not cleared any unorthodox answers...

[Mil]

mama-mia!!!!!

[Reffo]

he didn't say unconditionally.

Arafat said that he wanted Israel to agree to an unlimited right of return, full stop.

Because Nasser's ideology was not about whiping out the Jews, it was about Arab nationalism and the liberation of Palestine. Nasser never attacked Israel, only Sadat did.

Driving the Jews into the sea would not have wiped them out?

The mufti of Jerusalem played no role whatsoever during WWII,

Once again Takeo: He got together with Hitler, encouraged him to invade Palestine and he volunteered himself and his Palestinians to carry out the "final solution" on Palestine's Jews. And you said that we should just forget about it...

now, I don't like people abusing the Shoah for their own private reasons.

You are a hypocrite.

Your analogy is wrong Takeo. Why? Because both Jews and Arabs immigrated into Palestine between the late 1800s and 1948.

That's nonsense, the large majority of Arabs lived there long before the 1800's. There is statistical proof of that.

The point is that both Jews and Arabs lived there continuously for hundreds of years and that both Jews and Arabs immigrated there. The respective numbers of immigration are irrelevant because the immigration was LEGAL!

Indeed The UN voted to partition the land into two states, one Jewish one Arab. The Jews agreed to this but the Arabs started a war...

yes, but since the Israeli pull the strings yet there's still no Arab state, and many Israeli politicians don't want an Arab state in Palestine.

That's not Israel's fault.

1. The Arabs could have established their own state too between 1948 and 1967 but they didn't.
2. Even after 1967 Israel offered to get out of the West Bank and Gaza in exchange for the recognition of Israel and peace, but the arabs didn't agree.
3. In 2000/2001 Barak's offer would have created an independent Palestine but Arafat insisted on an unlimited right of return of refugees to Israel proper. Israel will NEVER accept such a condition becuse it would mean the destruction of Israel.

I don't say the Jews bear the responsability. I said the war was a logical consequence of the situation: two people on the same land. You think too much in terms like "responsability", "guilt", I think in terms of solutions. Yes the Arabs made a mistake to launch war against Israel in 1948, Israel made a mistake to take more than was accorded to them and subsequently cleanse most Palestinians from this territory. They also made a big mistake to keep and colonise the territories occupied in 1967. But now that's not really important, what's important is a solution, acceptable for both people, the division of the historical Palestine in two parts, the division of its capital in two parts, and a solution for the people who have been ethnically cleansed in 1948. The UN-resolutions should be the guideline in this, as both Israeli and palestinians are represented in the UN.

Yes, the Arabs made a mistake and the Jews too made mistakes so the solution should be a compromise not a dictate that the Jews should accept every Arab demand.

The problem of the refugees is very very easy to resolve (always has been) the Arabs were promised billions of dollars, most of them could return to live in the new Palestinian state and the remaining ones could settle where they live now amongst their brother Arabs. The Arabs have no shortage of land, they could easily absorb some refugees as many other countries have done in Europe with their refugees.

You see Takeo, we do agree on at least something. A solution is the important thing, not the past.

[takeo]

My brother-n-law is small, dark skinned, and Jewish. His entire family is from Moscow.

some Russians or Slavs are equally small, dark skinned and middle-Eastern looking.

http://www.nndb.com/people/334/00002...20415k-med.jpg

Most Russian Jews, or European Jews, can not be distinguished from non-Jews.

[Mediocrates]

Using energy threats as a substitute for a modern economy can only take them so far. Once they take over most of the old Soviet empire they'll have the same failures the Soviets did.

[dayag]

...Once again Takeo: He got together with Hitler, encouraged him to invade Palestine and he volunteered himself and his Palestinians to carry out the "final solution" on Palestine's Jews. And you said that we should just forget about it...

"In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../muftihit.html

[Reffo]

"In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary."

Thank you dayag. It seems that I understated what the Mufti did. And it is my understanding that the reason why he didn't end up paying for his crimes was because he escaped to Syria and the Syrians gave him sanctuary for the rest of his life.
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[ShimonG]

"In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../muftihit.html

Exactly. That is what i said in an earlier post. These croats and moslems, in addition to killing jews, genocides the serbs as well.

We as americans would have a lot more credibility in Ossetia and Abhkazia had we not supported the croats and moslems in Kosovo. That was wrong, and we are paying the price when we want to do right by opposing Ossetian and Abhkhazian "independence."