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I say no. Hamas are more prepared to fight in head to head battle. Pounding them from the sky will save Israeli lives.
Sending ground troops into Lebanon did not do any good either.
Unless they know where Shalit is, I say definitely no to a ground operation.
I also say to definitely leave Hamas in power. This will ensure that Gaza and WB remain 2 separate entities and no foreign power will be able to force Israel to cut itself in half.
Looks like IDF armored divisions are advancing to the South toward Gaza.
I agree with you that it would be a mistake to have a ground offensive when basically all goals can be achieved from the air without loss of life on the part of the IDF.
I guess that Israel believes that it can't stop rocket fire into Israel without having troops on the ground. And, it also believes that it's just a matter of time before Palestinian civilian casualties mount and Israel loses international support for the operation. I suppose that's the answer.
But it's been more than a year with daily rockets fired form Gaza, so as long as Hamas is effectively shut down as a ruling power (which can definitely be achieved by the IAF), let the Palestinians continue to fire the rockets until Hamas crumbles. It's just a matter of time. If Israel can brush off international criticism long enough, the battle can be won just from the air.
Yup. Looks like they are going to hand over Gaza to the PA terrorists. A mistake in my eyes.
I say send in locust and the frogs. Go Biblical on their arse.
I'm not sure that I support sending in ground troops at this point. If, however, Israel does decide to send our soldiers into harms way, I hope that the political leaders don't give them a bunch of crap orders that, in effect, renders them powerless (i.e. by emulating U.S. ground rules of engagement).
I think that I'm becoming a loose canon in my old age, but I hope that we obliterate every Hamas sympathizer in Palestine before we consider another unilateral cease-fire.
You are not a loose canon, the situation has gone on long enough.Originally Posted by Mosche
No way. Unless it's strategic special ops like the hospital raid in Lebanon, and as Yala says, they know for sure where their Shalit is.
Crazy as this sounds, and obviously just a fantasy, but - ground maneuvering should be a joint operation with Egypt. It would be a manipulation on both sides, and by working together, the US would be powerless to step in. Egypt will need to start tap dancing for their aid money soon, and they also have similar border fears. The benefit to Israel would be tactical, and make the operation legit without world recourse. Israel works alongside it's Arab neighbors all the time, but this would be the largest display of that.
Egypt can't and won't do it. They are currently sending in "aid" to Gaza. This may even include weapons. They have to convince the Arab street that they are pro-Pal even though the regime hates Hamas. The Mubarak regime is on shaky ground.
They'll play it both sides, per usual. .... but I doubt they'll take part in this crack down, you are right.
I was talking to these Muslims on another site and they were complaining that the Jews are starving the Palestinians in Gaza to death. I asked them how come Hamas can get rockets into there, but not food. That shut them right up.
Who is Mubarak on shaky grounds with, the Egyptians, the US?
It is just a matter of time until the pro-sharia Muslim Brotherhood takes over.
I was talking to these Muslims on another site and they were complaining that the Jews are starving the Palestinians in Gaza to death. I asked them how come Hamas can get rockets into there, but not food. That shut them right up.
Steven please stop comparing food and weapons.....
The Egyptians. I don't know if it's a matter of time or what. Most of the "secular" regimes in the ME are on shaky ground.
We can finish where we have started, Gaza, as it is full of them. Rockets have landed in Ashdod and Ashkelon, but do we see this on Sky news? No!!!..... but I hope that we obliterate every Hamas sympathizer in Palestine before we consider another unilateral cease-fire......
Sending in ground troops is a big No,No, if Ariel Sharon was still in charge, I dont think he would have even contemplated the use of ground troops. I have always believed that his idea was to do exactly what Israel is doing, hit them from the air and save Isralie casualties.
According to Debka:
http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5801
"While Israel's air attack is counted a success, its war chiefs are taking care not to be trapped by an early achievement into the sort of blunders which led to the Lebanon war's unsatisfactory conclusion in 2006. That campaign was commanded by a former airman, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, who saw no point in a ground operation after Hizballah's command center was razed by air – until it was too late.
The first objective of a ground force in the coming hours will be to destroy "Lower Gaza," the underground city designed by an Iranian general and spread under most of the enclave's area. This subterranean sanctuary kept the bulk of the Hamas army, 15,000 men, their officers and leaders, out of harm's way during the Israeli air offensive Saturday. Their resistance must be broken before Hamas can be brought to surrender. Until then they will fight on.
The second Israeli objective must be to sever the Gaza Strip from Egypt by recapturing the Philadelphi border strip.
These missions are formidable indeed and may take weeks of ups and downs, which is why prime minister Ehud Olmert's goal of restoring normal lives to the people of southern Israel is a lot less simplistic than it sounds. The air operation was indeed just the beginning."
dont look like there will be peace in the near future then.Peace will only come when Muslims become tolerant of other religions.
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