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  1. #1321
    Madeline
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Today I begin with the most recent column of Caroline Glick.

    In part she reviews material covered the other day by Anne Bayefsky of Eye on the UN (whom I cited last week).

    Ostensibly, the US delegation sent by Obama to participate in the preparatory committee -- along with the likes of Libya, Cuba, Iran and Pakistan -- is only there to try to make things better. The US says it still holds out the option of refusing to attend the actual sessions in Geneva in April if improvements aren't made in the document that will set the agenda of the conference.

    But, says Bayefsky, this is exceedingly disingenuous for several reasons:

    -- The decision to participate at all represents a major shift in US policy, as the US government, since 2001, has boycotted all Durban proceedings.

    -- The stated purpose of Durban 2 is "to foster the implementation of the Durban Declaration and Program of Action. This is non-negotiable and cannot be changed by U.S. participation, period."

    "...all U.N. states attending these preparatory sessions have already agreed to 'reaffirm the Durban Declaration.'...joining negotiations now means agreeing to its provisions for the first time."

    As Glick puts it, as the original Durban Declaration "include[s] the anti-Israel assertion that Israel is a racist state, it is clear that the Durban II conference is inherently, and necessarily, anti-Israel."

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    But Glick now carries this further:

    "The second reason that both the State Department and the White House must realize that they are powerless to affect the conference's agenda is because that agenda was already set in previous planning sessions... and that agenda includes multiple assertions of the basic illegitimacy of the Jewish people's right to self-determination.

    "Beyond all that, assuming that the Obama administration truly wishes to change the agenda, the fact is that the US is powerless to do so. As was the case in 2001, so too, today, the Islamic bloc, supported by the Third World bloc, has an automatic voting majority."

    Writes Glick:

    "SINCE IT came into office a month ago, every single Middle East policy the Obama administration has announced has been antithetical to Israel's national security interests. From President Barack Obama's intense desire to appease Iran's mullahs in open discussions; to his stated commitment to establish a Palestinian state as quickly as possible...; to his expressed support for the so-called Saudi peace plan...; to his decision to end US sanctions against Syria and return the US ambassador to Damascus; to his plan to withdraw US forces from Iraq and so give Iran an arc of uninterrupted control extending from Iran to Lebanon, every single concrete policy Obama has enunciated harms Israel.

    "At the same time, none of the policies that Obama has adopted can be construed as directed against Israel. In and of themselves, none can be viewed as expressing specific hostility toward Israel. Rather, they are expressions of naiveté, or ignorance, or - at worst - deliberate denial of the nature of the problems of the Arab and Islamic world on the part of Obama and his advisers.

    "The same cannot be said of the administration's decision to send its delegation to the Durban II planning session this past week in Geneva. Unlike every other Obama policy, this is a hostile act against Israel. This is true first of all because the decision was announced in the face of repeated Israeli requests that the US join Israel and Canada in boycotting the Durban II conference. (emphasis added)

    "...what lies behind Israel's requests for a US boycott is not a partisan agenda, but a clearheaded acknowledgement that the Durban II conference is inherently devoted to the delegitimization and destruction of the Jewish state. And by joining in the planning sessions, the US has become a full participant in legitimizing and so advancing this overtly anti-Jewish agenda. (emphasis added)

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    Glick goes on to describe what happened at a committee session last Thursday, when the Palestinian delegation proposed that a paragraph be added to the conference's agenda, which "calls for implementation of... the advisory opinion of the ICJ [International Court of Justice] on the wall, [i.e., Israel's security fence], and the international protection of Palestinian people throughout the occupied Palestinian territory."

    "The American delegation raised no objection to the Palestinian draft. (emphasis added)

    "Issued in 2004, the ICJ's advisory opinion on the security fence claimed that Israel has no right to self-defense against Palestinian terrorism. At the time, both the US and Israel rejected the ICJ's authority to issue an opinion on the subject.

    "On Thursday, by not objecting to this Palestinian draft, not only did the US effectively accept the ICJ's authority, for practical purposes it granted the anti-Israel claim that Jews may be murdered with impunity."

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    Glick's conclusion: "...through its behavior at the Geneva planning sessions this week, the US has demonstrated that State Department protestations aside, the administration has no interest in changing the agenda in any serious way. The US delegation's decision not to object to the Palestinian draft, as well its silence in the face of Iran's rejection of a clause in the conference declaration that mentioned the Holocaust, show the US did not join the planning session to change the tenor of the conference. The US is participating in the planning sessions because it wishes to participate in the conference. (emphasis added)

    "The Durban II conference, like its predecessor, is part and parcel of a campaign to coordinate the diplomatic and legal war against the Jewish state...

    "By participating in the conference, the US today is effectively giving American support to the war against the Jewish state.

    "The open hostility toward Israel expressed by the Obama administration's decision to participate in the Durban process should be a red flag for both the Israeli government and for Israel's supporters in the US. Both Israel and its Jewish and non-Jewish supporters must openly condemn the administration's move and demand that it reverse its decision immediately. (emphasis added)
    http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304831938&pagename=JPArticle%2FS howFull

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    Now, as the alarm gets louder, I add information from one more very recent article by Anne Bayefsky. This is what she says:

    "The Feb. 20 State Department press release says the U.S. delegation in Geneva 'outline[d] our concerns with the current outcome document' and in particular 'our strong reservations about the direction of the conference, as the draft document singles out Israel for criticism.' One member of the delegation told The Washington Post: 'The administration is pushing back against efforts to brand Israel as racist in this conference.' In fact, tucked away in a Geneva hall with few observers, the U.S. had done just the opposite. The U.S. delegates had made no objection to a new proposal to nail Israel in an anti-racism manifesto that makes no other country-specific claims. (emphasis added)

    It's an Obama administration "cover-up," says Bayefsky. Which means we cannot depend on what is reported on this issue by government sources or journalists tending to support the administration.

    The silence of the U.S. delegation is all the more disturbing because Bayefsky reports that it had no trouble raising objections on other issues at the meeting.

    http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/22/oba...d_nations.html

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    Contact the White House, the State Department, and your elected Senators and Congresspersons on this issue. Be strong and clear in your demand that the US pull out of Durban planning sessions. Use the information provided above to make your case succinctly: The US cannot change the anti-Israel direction of the proceedings and is instead legitimizing the process of undermining Israel.

    Phone calls and faxes are most effective. Use e-mail if that is what is possible for you.

    An important hint when contacting Senators and Congresspersons: Call their respective offices and ask for the staffer who is responsible for foreign affairs or Middle East affairs. Either speak to that individual directly, fax in care of that individual, or secure an e-mail address for him or her for sending a direct message. Members of Congress do not have the time or energy to read all messages, or consider all facts. They depend upon key staffers to advise them. You reach the members of Congress most effectively by reaching the appropriate high level staffer.

    President Barack Obama:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ (for email contact form)

    Fax: 202-456-2461

    White House Comment line: 202-456-1111



    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton:

    Public Communication Division

    Phone: 202-647-6575

    Fax: 202-647-2283

    e-mail: secretary@state.gov

    To locate your representatives in Congress, see:

    http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml

    To locate your senator:

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm

    You can often secure best contact info. by logging on to the website of the representative or senator.

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  2. #1322
    CanDo
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Israel had the chance to destroy Hamas and allow both Palestinians and Jews to live in peace, without Hamas's blood-thirsty Islamist chokehold over the area. But, unfortunately, Israel's weak "leaders" snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, and left Gaza before the job was done, mostly due to pressure from Egypt.

    What mind-numbing stupidity and ignorance!

    Israel has been bombed daily since the pullout from Gaza. Nice going Olmert, Livni and Barak! With these three cowardly, air-heads Israel has no chance for a true lasting peace. The next step is for this incompetent, weak triumvirate to give-up pieces of Israel to Israel's Jew-hating, Christian-hating, violent, backward enemies, in the hopes that the appeasement of Israel's barbaric neighbors and enemies will bring peace!?

    Idiots like Olmert, Livni and Barak are leading Israel straight into the jaws of Israel's antiSemitic enemies. More amazing than that is that almost half of Israel's population agree with them!

  3. #1323
    Madeline
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Idiots like Olmert, Livni and Barak are leading Israel straight into the jaws of Israel's antiSemitic enemies. More amazing than that is that almost half of Israel's population agree with them!

    Brown nosing world views instead of showing a spine. Israel isn't the only one. You just wait.

  4. #1324
    CanDo
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Olmert, Barak and Livni, Israel's weak, spineless leadership, has led Israel down another disastrous path. It is a damn shame that the brave, courageous men and women of the IDF sacrificed their lives and bodies, just to have Israel's incompetent leaders throw away any gains from the expedition into Gaza. What a damn waste of the time, talent and courage of the IDF!!!

    Excerpts From Debka:

    Hamas missile upsurge erodes Israeli deterrence, dashes ceasefire hopes

    http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5937

    Ten Palestinian missiles struck Israel from the Gaza Strip Saturday, Feb. 28, including two heavyweight Grads aimed at Ashkelon. The number since Israel halted Operation Cast Lead Jan. 18 has risen to seventy.

    DEBKAfile's military sources directly correlate the upsurge of Palestinian rockets attacks on Israel and the setbacks in securing the release of the captive Israeli soldier Gilead Shalit with defense minister Ehud Barak's dogged insistence on the imminence of an Egyptian-brokered long-term ceasefire.

    The figures are irrefutable, the ceasefire is receding and the message from Cairo is plain. The Egyptians say the rockets will keep on coming and the Israeli soldier stay missing until the rival Palestinian factions Hamas and Fatah reach an accord on sharing power, which is Cairo's top priority.

    Israel is not offered any say in this process; neither is Hamas required to abandon violence or its ruling ambition to destroy Israel. But the Palestinian Islamists' conditions for a deal are largely addressed to… Israel. Hence the pressure-by-missile.

    Cairo optimistically forecasts a "successful" outcome later this month; other Arab sources mention April-May. But Barack and his envoy to Cairo Amos Gilead seem to have no qualms about Cairo's linkage of Palestinian missile fire and a Palestinian unity accord, although this makes Ashkelon hostage to a Palestinian factional reconciliation. And what happens if the Palestinian deal falls through, as it has before?

    For more than a month, therefore, Israeli retaliation for the missile attacks has been muted, restricted to the harmless aerial bombardment of empty buildings and smuggling tunnels in Gaza.


    This tactic contradicts the promises Barak and foreign minister Tzipi Livni made that Israel would respond instantaneously and effectively to Palestinian aggression from Gaza, if the military operation of January failed to bring the promised "new security reality" to southern Israel.

    Sensing this weakness in Israel's stance, Hamas which has quickly recovered from its hammering at Israel's hands is moving forward on three fronts:

    1. An upsurge in missile attacks: Saturday, two newly upgraded 170mm Grad missiles were launched against Ashkelon. One went through the fortified roof of a schoolroom where no lessons were held because of the Sabbath.

    This attack on an important Israeli port-city made nonsense of the defense minister's claim that Israel's deterrence capacity was in place.


    2. Iran is smuggling larger quantities of weapons to Hamas via Sinai than during the days prior to Operation Cast Lead: 50 improved Grad rockets, different types of anti-air missiles and tons of explosives were delivered in the last two weeks.

    That takes care of another solemn promise (delivered by Amos Gilead) that, if Israel agreed to a Cairo-brokered unilateral ceasefire last month, Egypt would reciprocate with strenuous action to stem the smuggling of arms to Hamas through its territory.

    Our sources add that Tehran, which took that promise seriously, had planned alternative, more expensive and roundabout smuggling routes. Now Iran sees it can save itself the trouble and go back to shipping arms via Sinai to Gaza relatively undisturbed.

    3. Hamas is digging its heel in harder than ever before on the release of Gilead Shalit. This tramples yet another of Barak's assurances, this one endorsed by the outgoing prime minister Ehud Olmert, that the military offensive would bring his freedom closer. Hamas has made it clear that the price for his release is up and still rising.

  5. #1325
    Madeline
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Oh no.

  6. #1326
    CanDo
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Quote Originally Posted by CanDo View Post

    This tactic contradicts the promises Barak and foreign minister Tzipi Livni made that Israel would respond instantaneously and effectively to Palestinian aggression from Gaza, if the military operation of January failed to bring the promised "new security reality" to southern Israel.
    Yet..... after Barak and Livni have shown total inability to make any kind of intelligent decision, or planning, regarding Hamas and Israel's security, they both refuse to join in a unity government, urgently needed to address the serious problems facing Israel right now.

    These incompetent boobs are playing politics, while, at the same time, making insanely stupid decisions regarding Israel's security!

    Yet...... if there was another election, brain-dead, ideological, dogma-driven Israelis would still turn out in droves to keep these two ineffective boobs in office; dooming Israel to an uncertain, unstable future.
    Last edited by CanDo; 03-01-2009 at 06:29 AM.

  7. #1327
    tordon
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    I think there is a need for a greater exploration of the fundamental issues at hand in this conflict. I try to promote these sort of conversations on my blog. Check out my signature.

  8. #1328
    Elin
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    Re: The Battle for Gaza has begun!

    Quote Originally Posted by dayag View Post
    Actually Turkey is pretty evenly divided. The ruling AKP party received less than half (47%) of the vote in 2007. The country could go either way.
    Now its 38.76% dayag,that's what they get in March 29 local election.It is an important decline in votes as the former 47 percent vote has dropped to 39 percent within 20 months while Kemalist parties (CHP+DSP) and Nationalist party gained extra 4.5 million voters in the same period.According to political experts (and general view) AKP’s decline rate will increasingly continue.After 7 years of AKP government for the first time there's such an optimism in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elin View Post
    Now its 38.76% dayag,that's what they get in March 29 local election.It is an important decline in votes as the former 47 percent vote has dropped to 39 percent within 20 months while Kemalist parties (CHP+DSP) and Nationalist party gained extra 4.5 million voters in the same period.According to political experts (and general view) AKP’s decline rate will increasingly continue.After 7 years of AKP government for the first time there's such an optimism in the country.
    I am very happy to hear that, Elin. Long live the secular Turkish republic (Yaşasın laik Türkiye Cumhuriyeti!).
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