Bin Laden calls for jihad over Israel offensive

[codedvirus]

Bin Laden calls for jihad over Israel offensive
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...005961,00.html

AL-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden called for jihad over the Israeli offensive in Gaza in a new audio tape that appeared on Islamist web sites today.

The tape was dated in the current Islamic month.

The White House said bin Laden's call for jihad demonstrated the al-Qaeda leader's isolation and was likely an effort to raise money.

"It appears this tape demonstrates his isolation and continued attempts to remain relevant at a time when al Qaeda's ideology, mission, and agenda are being questioned and challenged throughout the world," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.

"This also looks to be an effort to raise money as part of their ongoing propaganda campaign," he said.

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Bin Laden, on Tape, Urges Holy War Over Gaza
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/wo...t.html?_r=1&hp

In his first public statement over the 19-day Gaza conflict, the leader of Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, on Wednesday publicly exhorted Muslims to wage holy war against Israel and criticized Israel’s Arab allies in an audiotape posted on Islamist Web sites.

The Qaeda statement came a day after Israel conceded that despite its relentless bombardment of Gaza, it had yet to cripple the military wing of Hamas or destroy the group’s ability to launch rockets. The concession suggested that despite heavy air and ground assaults Israel’s main goals in the conflict remain unfulfilled after more than two weeks of war.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/wo...t.html?_r=1&hp

[bararallu]

Hmm I guess it's now makes 10 "human rights organizations" that are united in their stand against Israel. Isn't Jihad a human right?

[Cellis]

oh! audio tape again! (:
something weird here

[ItsMyJewty]

Boringly predictable. I wondered when the smelly looking genocidal muppet was going to make a reappearance.

[andak01]

Hmm I guess it's now makes 10 "human rights organizations" that are united in their stand against Israel. Isn't Jihad a human right?

Read the book of Numbers and you'll find it is a devine right. You'll also find there that non-Jew threatening Jewish soverenty over the promised land gets killed down to the cattle. Reading the posts on this forum I can see how pervasive this teaching is.

[ItsMyJewty]

if you don't like it here, don't come here

[Mil]

Read the book of Numbers and you'll find it is a devine right. You'll also find there that non-Jew threatening Jewish soverenty over the promised land gets killed down to the cattle. Reading the posts on this forum I can see how pervasive this teaching is.

Exactly - stormfront is definitely are your friends. Did you mosque make the contact yet?

[andak01]

Read the book of Numbers and you'll find it is a devine right. You'll also find there that non-Jew threatening Jewish soverenty over the promised land gets killed down to the cattle. Reading the posts on this forum I can see how pervasive this teaching is.

Exactly - stormfront is definitely are your friends. Did you mosque make the contact yet?

Nah! I've got no use for anti-semitism. But I will give back what I receive. Anyone that can read the Book of Numbers and read about the hero David and then turn around and say how violent the Quran is has a hole in his head.

I just reviewed the teaching material for my kid's Sunday class. Miraculously it is absent all of the anti-semitic stuff that I'm told (by those on this forum) was supposed to be there. Not very surprising really.

[CanDo]

... You'll also find there that non-Jew threatening Jewish soverenty over the promised land gets killed down to the cattle. ...

Nonsense! Jews would never waste useful cattle!

[CanDo]

... and then turn around and say how violent the Quran is has a hole in his head.

Hole in head? Like the millions of victims of Muslim perpetrated genocide and terrorism, Muslims, foaming at the mouth and screaming "Allahu Akbar", while they slaughter women and children.

The Quran is drenched with the blood of innocents.

[andak01]

Hole in head? Like the millions of victims of Muslim perpetrated genocide and terrorism, Muslims, foaming at the mouth and screaming "Allahu Akbar", while they slaughter women and children.

The Quran is drenched with the blood of innocents.

Well let's go back over the past couple of weeks. Civilian victims of Hamas 3. Civilians killed in Gaza ~300. Or go back to 2001, civilian victims of Qassam missiles from 2001 to today ~30. Hamas is evil for killing 30, but Israel is preposterously inept at preventing collateral damage.

[bararallu]

Read the book of Numbers and you'll find it is a devine right. You'll also find there that non-Jew threatening Jewish soverenty over the promised land gets killed down to the cattle. Reading the posts on this forum I can see how pervasive this teaching is.

The State of Israel is not Judea or Israel of 2 or 3 thousand years back. Our state policies are 100% external to the Torah, even if some ethical aspects of treating citizens are parallel. I generally fail to see the comparison of Imams and Clerics funded by the neighboring state (not to mention actual policy stated and driven by said State elites) all over the ME making calls for whats is actually Genocide and annihilation of our country as a sovereign state and what goes on in Israel by Israeli Jews driving policy and making statements as elected representatives of the people.

Point that out to us where Biblical policy has been put into place at any point of the modern state.

[andak01]

Nonsense! Jews would never waste useful cattle!

1 Samuel 22:18-19 The king then ordered Doeg, "You turn and strike down the priests." So Doeg the Edomite turned and struck them down. That day he killed eighty-five men who wore the linen ephod. 19 He also put to the sword Nob, the town of the priests, with its men and women, its children and infants, and its cattle, donkeys and sheep.

Joshua 11:6 Yahweh said to Joshua, "Don't be afraid because of them; for tomorrow at this time, I will deliver them up all slain before Israel. You shall hamstring their horses and burn their chariots with fire."

2 Samuel 8:4 And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

[varian]

This is the main trouble with Muslim scholars, Muhammad and the Qur'an. The Torah/Tanach shows both the strengths and the flaws of the Jewish culture and individuals within that culture. Anyone can see this and develop a tirade against their culture and their people. All religious writings offer praise and honor to their god or gods, therfore any honor or praises in the Qur'an are basically an expected formality. What the Qur'an does focus on due to Muhammad's lack of understanding is a continual consistant tirade against all other religions, and the main religion that sticks in Muhammad's craw is Judaism.

The Qur'an has stimulated the racism and hatred of the Jews for centuries. Muhammad claims that Gabriel was his messenger, and that the Qur'an was " a single revelation which descended upon Muhammad, either instantly or over a brief period, ..." Now after starting to read the Qur'an, it doesn't take one long to discover the fallacy of that fable. Whoever that Gabriel was, it is blatantly obvious that he/she was not sent by HaShem. So now you are going to throw the book of Numbers up to the Jews on this forum, while constantly denying the faults of Muhammad. How typical!!! What the Israelis may have done thousands of years ago somehow in the perverted Muslim mind, justifies Islamic hate and murder against Israel/Jews today. The Qur'an allows for this interpretation by numerous Muslims in the world today, and since you throw the history presented in the Torah up to the Jews on this forum, you show that you are definitely studying under scholars that don't really hold a very different opinion from the most radical schools of Islamic thought in the world. It's really only a matter of degrees. You show the same errors of thought and presentation that your prophet did, and he shows a gross ignorance of the spiritual messages presented in the Torah/Tanach. Peaceful or radical, your arguments show the same trappings of Muhammad's faulty reasoning. I don't really see that big a difference.

[andak01]

The Torah/Tanach shows both the strengths and the flaws of the Jewish culture and individuals within that culture.

So I've heard. Is that why you put the symbol of a man who paid his dowry by desecrating 200 Philistine bodies on the flag of Israel? Or name a hotel after him, or wear his symbol around your neck?

Take it from me, I know about cultures based on violence. I was born into one, that one for which I am never asked to make ammends around here. My ancestors enslaved one continent and genocided another under the banner of the cross. I never once heard someone here say: "You've got blood on your hands." for that. Nor was I ever told that about the dimmi-like Jim Crow laws that were in place in my youth. Nor does the more recent and more deadly (than Mumbai) attack of the Lord's Resistance Army register. Nor their other attack where they chopped almost 50 parishioners to pieces in front of a church. And the reason that none of that, nor the mass murders of women and police on the border of Mexico, nor any other type of violence is of interest is, it isn't aimed at Jews. So the six Jews killed at Nariman house are far more important than the 46 Christians chopped to pieces by the LRA or the 400 women tortured and set on fire in Mexico. And it becomes clear that this isn't a crusade against violence at all. In the end, Jews are as self interested and hypocritical as the next person, not more, not less. Certainly Arabs and Muslims have their share of this hypocrisy.