After cease-fire, Hamas continues to fire rockets into Israel

[NewsGuy]

Within 48 hours of Israel's cease-fire, Hamas began attacking departing IDF soldiers, and has so far fired 8 rockets at Israel.

The latest barrage of rockets fired by Hamas comes as many Israelis wonder why Israel would have stopped its operation before finishing off Hamas. In the past few days, Israel was extremely close to solving the Hamas problem (i.e., stopping Iranian operations on Israel's Southern border), when Leftist politicians Tzipi Livni, Ehud Barak, and PM Olmert decided to stop right before achieving victory.

And the result of the Leftists' decision to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, is plain to see. Once again, Israel's citizens are under terrorist attack while the Muslim terrorism supporters and Leftists have managed to portray Israel as the aggressor.

In light of the latest cease-fire violations and the resumption of Hamas firing rockets into Israel, the IDF needs to turn back and target the remaining Hamas operatives regardless of the civilian casualties that the Palestinians will unfortunately incur. Like al Qaeda and other Muslim terrorism groups, if Hamas operatives are left alive and the IDF's job remains unfinished, Hamas will simply continue to mass-murder Christians, Jews, and all others.

[Fall]

Israel was extremely close to solving the Hamas problem (i.e., stopping Iranian operations on Israel Southern border), when Leftist politicians Tzipi Livni, Ehud Barak, and PM Olmert decided to stop right before achieving victory.

That's the solution?! I doubt stopping there arms supply will solve the problems in Gaza, do you think Sterodt will be safe if that happens? As you know Hamas has fused itself into the Gaza community, and Fatah are not welcome with their questionable/corrupt motives. It just amazes me that the dreaded PLO are now welcome as Fatah as bringers of peace to the world community. If Fatah takes over somehow, you think other smaller cells won't be sending over there occasional walking bomb into Israel? As well do you think Fatah will have any power over the overzealous settlers who wander into Gaza?

Sorry for the Fragments, stopping by in between classes

[bararallu]

That's the solution?! I doubt stopping there arms supply will solve the problems in Gaza, do you think Sterodt will be safe if that happens? As you know Hamas has fused itself into the Gaza community, and Fatah are not welcome with their questionable/corrupt motives. It just amazes me that the dreaded PLO are now welcome as Fatah as bringers of peace to the world community. If Fatah takes over somehow, you think other smaller cells won't be sending over there occasional walking bomb into Israel? As well do you think Fatah will have any power over the overzealous settlers who wander into Gaza?

Sorry for the Fragments, stopping by in between classes

Fall,

What would you expect your govt to do if a foreign country was lobbing random mortars and missiles into your neighborhood?

If this was happening to the US, there would be a hole in the ground with a massive diameter, where once lived people, militants or civilians, Muslims, Christians, Jews or name it. Thats historically the case... having a double standard for Israel is well a double standard. From our perspective it is questionable. It's also not only the US. Every country that criticises Israel is doing so hypocritically... the Russians for example had leveled Grozny. They killed on a scale of genocide. How many SC resolutions? The Chinese daily prosecute and have killed probably hundreds of thousands of Tibetans, and Turkic nationals. The Alawi Syrians have killed 20,000 Sunnis is a day, Jordan the same in a week, Egypt many times that in Yemen. There is currently a masscre by an insane Christian derived cult in the Congo massacring Animists and other Christian Congolease, have you heard how many people died there? Was it even reported on the news? Where was the bad press in the Arab world condemning the Sudanese for mass murdering Fur (black) Muslims? Where was the bad press when the Algerian govt started slaughtering Islamists left and right. When did the world, much less the Arab world, condemn the ethnic cleansing of 400,000 Palestinians from Kuwait?

Contextually, I think we have a very strong case. Human suffering is bad everywhere, w/o doubt, whether Arab or Jew, but somehow it is the self determined Jews (and their Druze, Bedouin Muslim alies etc) that get disproportionally condemned and targeted (and demonified).

[NewsGuy]

That's the solution?! I doubt stopping there arms supply will solve the problems in Gaza, do you think Sterodt will be safe if that happens?

I don't think so.

To stop the threat from Gaza, we need to remove Hamas. Abbas needs to be in power there (hopefully under the supervision of foreign troops).

As you know Hamas has fused itself into the Gaza community, and Fatah are not welcome with their questionable/corrupt motives. It just amazes me that the dreaded PLO are now welcome as Fatah as bringers of peace to the world community. If Fatah takes over somehow, you think other smaller cells won't be sending over there occasional walking bomb into Israel? As well do you think Fatah will have any power over the overzealous settlers who wander into Gaza?

Many Gazans hate Hamas, as they've been abused, robbed, beaten, etc., by Hamas thugs.

While all Palestinian factions are basically terrorist thugs who rob their own people and would like nothing more than to mass-murder every Christian and Jew they can get their hands on, Fatah is, for the moment, the preferable party. For example, so far, Fatah has managed to control Hamas and prevent any rockets from being fired out of the West Bank.

Believe me -- I would prefer not to have either Hamas or Fatah in control of the Palestinians. I would much rather see the Palestinians take their terrorism and Jihad with them and be promptly marched into Jordan and Egypt so they can live in peace and freedom with their Muslim brothers.

[Yala]

I don't think so.

To stop the threat from Gaza, we need to remove Hamas. Abbas needs to be in power there (hopefully under the supervision of foreign troops).

Stop your delusions. Who is Abbas? What can he do? I guess you missed the article I posted where his military wing admitted to firing 102 rockets into Israel and 35 mortars.

The solution is as follows:

1) Continue working on the anti-rocket system which they are close to finishing.
2) Build a moat on the Israel-Gaza border. Close all borders and let Egypt deal with their humanitarian care aka smuggling.

Many Gazans hate Hamas, as they've been abused, robbed, beaten, etc., by Hamas thugs.

Again, stop your delusions. Gaza = Hamas. I can guarantee on the next poll they will be more popular than ever.

While all Palestinian factions are basically terrorist thugs who rob their own people and would like nothing more than to mass-murder every Christian and Jew they can get their hands on,

Well except for the useful Christians and Jews that is.

Fatah is, for the moment, the preferable party. For example, so far, Fatah has managed to control Hamas and prevent any rockets from being fired out of the West Bank.

Only to allow Israel to fight their fight for them. They are hoping that Israel will destroy their rival Hamas and then they can step in to continue slaughtering Jews. They are and have always been a trojan horse.

[voblak2]

I agree. Israel should have continued fighting until Hamas was exterminated. They are like cancer, you don't leave it in your body (inside Israel) but rather kill it. The only people who should be allowed to live in Israel are Jews or those who love Israel. Israel cannot afford to let these people live, they must once & for all destroy all Palestinians/Arabs living within their borders if they refuse to leave.

[Mediocrates]

If this was happening to the US, there would be a hole in the ground with a massive diameter, where once lived people, militants or civilians, Muslims, Christians, Jews or name it.

I used to believe that. I no longer do. I think those days are over. I think the US is ready to accept any low level of terrorism indefinitely.

[Y. Shulamith]

I don't believe the USA will allow any terrorist nonsense within the USA.....what the future brings, who knows, but for now, the USA is giving a very short stick to any kind of terrorism that unfolds.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200..._fort_dix.html

[NewsGuy]

Stop your delusions...
Again, stop your delusions.

Uhhh.... Yessir! Right away!

[Justcurious]

Sad, if the first statement is correct. Has any neutral source counted the Israeli response?

[Yala]

Uhhh.... Yessir! Right away!

I don't think anyone on this site besides Takeo agrees with your delusional stance/opinion of Fatah. Do you have any comment on the rockets they fired from Gaza at Israel or are you going to ignore my points and just respond with smiley faces?

[Fall]

I agree. Israel should have continued fighting until Hamas was exterminated. They are like cancer, you don't leave it in your body (inside Israel) but rather kill it. The only people who should be allowed to live in Israel are Jews or those who love Israel. Israel cannot afford to let these people live, they must once & for all destroy all Palestinians/Arabs living within their borders if they refuse to leave.

Have fun believing that would work, without WWIII (aka Armageddon?) starting.

[Fall]

Fall,

What would you expect your govt to do if a foreign country was lobbing random mortars and missiles into your neighborhood?

Well first off, I believe comparing and simplifying this to a "your country" is an insult to anyone who has any historical knowledge of the Palestine/Israel struggle (that's just my opinion). My views on Cast Lead are irrelevant on this forum and we both know that.

There is no comparison to counter the non stop sirens and panic in Sderot and the slums lead by gangs that is Gaza.

[NewsGuy]

I don't think anyone on this site besides Takeo agrees with your delusional stance/opinion of Fatah. Do you have any comment on the rockets they fired from Gaza at Israel or are you going to ignore my points and just respond with smiley faces?

So long as you're being rude, yep...

[Yala]

Well what I think is rude is for Jews to try and convince other Jews to do business with with Fatah, which is a terrorist organization by all accounts. Second of all, I think we need to remind people that the people of Gaza voted for Hamas to be their elected representatives. You can say they hate them and are abused by them all you want, but all evidence states that they are with Hamas, much as the people of southern Lebanon are still for Hezballah. I think it is our duty to remind people of this whenever we can, not delude people into false scenarios.