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    CanDo
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    Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in EU?

    Obama to Close Guantanamo and Foreign Prisons, Limit CIA Methods


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...-year/100days/

    From the article:
    "The executive orders, aimed at rolling back much of former President Bush's architecture for the war on terror, involve "altering CIA detention and interrogation rules, limiting interrogation standards in all U.S. facilities worldwide to those outlined in the Army Field Manual, and prohibiting the agency from secretly holding terrorist detainees in third-country prisons,"


    The US will be limited in it's ability to intercept terrorists plans, especially overseas. So...... will that lead to more successful terrorist attacks, now that the terrorists have to worry less, about having their murderous plans exposed ahead of time? The US is probably safer than Europe, being further from the action.

    Are the Islamic terrorists more likely to target Europe, seeing that it's closer, and that they already have terrorist cells in place? Which European countries are most likely to be first? England? France? Germany? Italy? I hope not, but probably one of those. I just hope that the EU's anti-terrorist intelligence is up to the challenge of increased possibilities of attack.
    Last edited by NewsGuy; 01-27-2009 at 12:38 PM.

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    varian
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Murtha Says He'd Take Guantanamo Prisoners in His District
    Rep. Jack Murtha volunteers to house prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in his Pennsylvania district, as President Obama prepares to order the shut-down of the facility.

    Wednesday, January 21, 2009

    Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., says he'd be willing to house prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in his congressional district if President Obama makes good on a plan to close the U.S. prison there. ...

    ... "Sure, I'd take 'em," said Murtha, an outspoken critic of the Iraq war. "They're no more dangerous in my district than in Guantanamo."

    Murtha added that there was "no reason not to put 'em in prisons in the United States and handle them the way they would handle any other prisoners." ...

    ... Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is introducing a bill that outlaws the release of a known terrorist into the U.S. Smith, the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said it would be appalling to close Guantanamo.

    "If terrorists suddenly get the same rights as citizens, then we've turned the world upside down," Smith said. "We don't think there should be a limit to their detention as long as they are a clear and present danger." ...

    ... On Sept. 11, 2001, Murtha represented Shanksville, Pa., where one of the four hijacked planes crashed.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ners-district/

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    Y. Shulamith
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Hey, the USA has plenty of federal pens to keep these animals in. We don't need to support and spend extra tax dollars on a separate facility for these pigs. Honestly, shutting down Gitmo is the best idea yet. Let them in with the regular prison population in the Federal Pens in the USA; let's see how they get along with the folks in there.

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    CanDo
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Quote Originally Posted by Y. Shulamith View Post
    Hey, the USA has plenty of federal pens to keep these animals in.
    I don't care about the rooms in the pens, I care about bringing those animals into our broken judicial system, where things can go wrong. Plus, we lose all capabilities of breaking them down and getting vital information out of them, which can help us to prevent terrorist attacks, especially via newly captured beasts.

    We don't need to support and spend extra tax dollars on a separate facility for these pigs.
    I think that it is well worth the extra money. I'm not even sure if it isn't much more expensive to house them in a federal pen which is about $50,000 per inmate, plus the expense of costly free legal help.

    Honestly, shutting down Gitmo is the best idea yet.
    I don't agree.

    Let them in with the regular prison population in the Federal Pens in the USA; let's see how they get along with the folks in there.
    They'll probably be able to recruit many new members for their terrorist cells within our borders.

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    CanDo
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Quote Originally Posted by varian View Post
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    Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., says he'd be willing to house prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in his congressional district if President Obama makes good on a plan to close the U.S. prison there. ...

    ... "Sure, I'd take 'em," said Murtha, an outspoken critic of the Iraq war. "They're no more dangerous in my district than in Guantanamo."
    Our prisons are not only significant recruitment arenas for narco-gangs, and street gangs, but also for Islamic terrorist cells. You place ONE Islamic beast in our prisons, and TEN more will be hatched. Some of our prisons are virtually run by the different gangs.

    We've got a broken penal system, and we've got representatives with broken brains, like Murtha.

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    Steven
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    We have not been had a major attack since 911 and this leftist idiot wants to change what is working.

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    CanDo
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    We have not been had a major attack since 911 and this leftist idiot wants to change what is working.
    Just as a precaution, now that Obama is weakening America's ability to prevent terrorist attacks, I intend to stock some shelves with long term supplies. Not panicking, but it is best to be better prepared for the eventuality.

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    Y. Shulamith
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    I don't think that thugs like this are being paroled any time soon, and neither are their cellmates. Lifers are lifers.......I think you're giving these Islamopigs more credit than they are worth giving. Gitmo is probably more like a vacation; wait til they go to a regular prison.

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    Steven
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Quote Originally Posted by Y. Shulamith View Post
    I don't think that thugs like this are being paroled any time soon, and neither are their cellmates. Lifers are lifers.......I think you're giving these Islamopigs more credit than they are worth giving. Gitmo is probably more like a vacation; wait til they go to a regular prison.
    The problem is that they will brain wash people in American prisons. People who then will be released here. Just like allowing Saudi Mosque heres, we are bringing the hate home.

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    Y. Shulamith
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    American prisoners are of a different ilk; they will devastate the Muslims, IMO.

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    Steven
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Quote Originally Posted by Y. Shulamith View Post
    American prisoners are of a different ilk; they will devastate the Muslims, IMO.
    We have a huge problem with Islam in our prisons.

    http://www.cpt-mi.org/pdf/Torrancev2.pdf

    http://www.zimbio.com/United+States+...des+protection

    http://www.westernresistance.com/blo...es/002992.html


    http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2808

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    Y. Shulamith
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    Hummm......... Fear the worst, hope for the best.......maybe the Islamobastards need to be segregated and amongst themselves, eh???

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    Steven
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Quote Originally Posted by Y. Shulamith View Post
    Hummm......... Fear the worst, hope for the best.......maybe the Islamobastards need to be segregated and amongst themselves, eh???
    That is what I think.

    Look at this guy that Bloomberg let off the hook.

    Radical Ex-Con NY Imam Placed On Suspension For Comments Made At Muslim Conference


    March 14, 2006 - Washington, DC - PipeLinenews.org - Imam Umar Abdul Jalil a supervisor of prison chaplains has been suspended, with pay by New York City mayor Bloomberg for remarks he made at the Muslim Students Association [MSA] Westzone Conference on April 15 and 16 last year in Arizona.

    Jalil is an ex-con [Attica] and the Imam of Masjid Sabur mosque in Harlem.

    His vitriolic speeches before the MSA were recorded by Steven Emerson's "Investigative Project."

    Jalil was quoted as saying:

    "They [some Muslim inmates] are not charged with anything, they are not entitled to any rights, they are interrogated. Some of them are literally tortured and we found this in the Metropolitan Correctional Facility in Manhattan. But they literally are torturing people...We have terrorists defining who a terrorist is, but because they have the weight of legitimacy, they get away with it...We know that the greatest terrorists in the world occupy the White House, without a doubt."

    http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1746

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    Mosche
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    Gotta agree with Steven on this one. From the ex-cons that I've met--or that I've seen in the media--they all want to blame someone else for their misdeeds. IMO, Islam allows convicts to focus their blame on the "vast worldwide conspiracy of Jews to take over the world." You see we, the Jews, forced them to rape, murder, steal, lie, etc....

    If I lived in Murtha's district, I would be throwing a fit right now.

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    Y. Shulamith
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    Re: Obama closes Guantanamo, Foreign Prisons, Limits CIA. Result: Terror Attacks in E

    I bet lots of the Muztards feel the same way about what was said regarding "terrorists" in the White House...however, I'd like to see just about every Arab national living here now, who was born outside of the USA deported back to Muzland, truth to tell....

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