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  1. #106
    Steven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    A very valid comment from the Spectator blog:

    "..As for your claim that "to pretend that they [Moslem extremists] pose a comparable danger to that we faced from Nazism or, for that matter, communism is absurd": let's compare London of, say, 1941 (at the height of the threat of Nazi invasion), or of the height of the Cold War, with today. Armed police, CCTV's everywhere, wide powers of stop-and-search, anti-terrorist devices - these were never needed in the past, not during two World Wars, not for forty years of the Cold War, not even to counter the threats of the IRA in the late 1960s and the early 1970s, when "the troubles" were at their all-time high.."

    That's true enough. It shows the extent to which this particular brand of terrorism has affected life in the UK. And we're restricted/brainwashed by political correctness if we speak this truth or attempt to address the root cause. Crazy.


    The threat is just as bad as Nazism, they are just fighting us with a different approach. But if these nuts every get equal military might.............LOOK OUT!!

  2. #107
    Sharona
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Citizenship?

    Well, if you're either a criminal, have the ability to sneak in (not hard, I believe), make undue threats or insist the Bible should be banned, I'd say you'll be welcome with open arms.

    If, however, you are squeaky clean, intelligent enough to scorn the political correctness or happen to be an elected EU politician with a view different to King Ahmed, I'd say your chances are slim.

  3. #108
    Steven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    Citizenship?

    Well, if you're either a criminal, have the ability to sneak in (not hard, I believe), make undue threats or insist the Bible should be banned, I'd say you'll be welcome with open arms.

    If, however, you are squeaky clean, intelligent enough to scorn the political correctness or happen to be an elected EU politician with a view different to King Ahmed, I'd say your chances are slim.
    Damn!! Sorry I just don't hate you Brits.

    How about cloning Margaret Thatcher? She would show them who is boss.

  4. #109
    Sharona
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    Guarding London in 1941 seems almost simple compared to today.

    Men coming home from work would have a meal, grab a tin helmet and an armband and go out on fire watch or Home Guard duties.

    Women would pull the black-out curtains, keep an ear out for the siren and hope for the best.

    That the war was little else is overly-simplistic, but my family lived in London during the war and this is how they spoke of those days. Along with planes flying overhead and bombs dropping, of course. But it is, nevertheless, the everyday perception of everyday people.

    The perception today - along with the security methods used - is different because the threat is not only from without but from within.

    And of course, I don't recall my family feeling that they couldn't criticise the Nazis - or anyone else, for that matter.

  5. #110
    Sharona
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    Damn!! Sorry I just don't hate you Brits.

    How about cloning Margaret Thatcher? She would show them who is boss.
    Even that woman's hair didn't dare slip itself out of place.

    Maggie and her handbag might well be all that is required.

    Still, there are plenty of criticisms that could be levied against Mrs. T. However, I can't imagine her surrendering to nonsense. She wasn't a woman to suffer fools gladly.

  6. #111
    Steven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    Guarding London in 1941 seems almost simple compared to today.

    Men coming home from work would have a meal, grab a tin helmet and an armband and go out on fire watch or Home Guard duties.

    Women would pull the black-out curtains, keep an ear out for the siren and hope for the best.

    That the war was little else is overly-simplistic, but my family lived in London during the war and this is how they spoke of those days. Along with planes flying overhead and bombs dropping, of course. But it is, nevertheless, the everyday perception of everyday people.

    The perception today - along with the security methods used - is different because the threat is not only from without but from within.

    And of course, I don't recall my family feeling that they couldn't criticise the Nazis - or anyone else, for that matter.

    Times did seem so much simpler back then. I always think that when I see those old black and white movies.

    They are destroying us from within. Truthfully Islam should of never been allowed into non-Islamic countries in the first place. It is just opposite our way of life. The two sets of laws cannot coexist within the same country.

    They know we cannot beat an enemy if we cannot even name him.

    HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!!!

  7. #112
    Steven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    Even that woman's hair didn't dare slip itself out of place.

    Maggie and her handbag might well be all that is required.

    Still, there are plenty of criticisms that could be levied against Mrs. T. However, I can't imagine her surrendering to nonsense. She wasn't a woman to suffer fools gladly.
    Someone with her type of personality is what is needed. Remember they can always be voted out in the future.

    Can you imagine how the sharia loving Muslims there would feel after being put in their place by a woman?

  8. #113
    Sharona
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    There isn't a strong personality at the moment. And I wouldn't look at the BNP. They remind me way too much of the old National Front - and they really were just thugs.

    I saw their activists in action - their tactics were to hang around outside department stores handing out Nazi-style propaganda, complete with cartoon caricatures of Jews and rats running around in the background. One of their strategies was to harrass vulnerable people on public transport. 'Vulnerable' being anything obviously ethnic or foreign. They were Hitler lovers and made no secret of it.

    I don't want to see that type of propaganda and thuggery back again. It's ugly and brutish. It's all very well to say you can vote people out, but no one knows what they might implement during their term that becomes irrevocable.

    We need the issues we have managed in a civilised manner without any hint of nazism whatsoever. I don't trust the BNP to do that.

  9. #114
    Steven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    There isn't a strong personality at the moment. And I wouldn't look at the BNP. They remind me way too much of the old National Front - and they really were just thugs.

    I saw their activists in action - their tactics were to hang around outside department stores handing out Nazi-style propaganda, complete with cartoon caricatures of Jews and rats running around in the background. One of their strategies was to harrass vulnerable people on public transport. 'Vulnerable' being anything obviously ethnic or foreign. They were Hitler lovers and made no secret of it.

    I don't want to see that type of propaganda and thuggery back again. It's ugly and brutish. It's all very well to say you can vote people out, but no one knows what they might implement during their term that becomes irrevocable.

    We need the issues we have managed in a civilised manner without any hint of nazism whatsoever. I don't trust the BNP to do that.

    What happens if no one else is willing to confront the issue?

  10. #115
    Sharona
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    I think there is a chance that Wilders has made the worm glance about a bit. There is tension running underneath the sitation the people of the UK find themselves in. I honestly don't know anyone who isn't fed-up to the back teeth with political correctness, crazy health and safety laws and the apparent denigration of Christianity and all things 'British', by the powers-that-be.

    Even one or two of the Labour frontbenchers are aware that there is support for the BNP in their own constituencies. Though they are only concerned about holding onto their seats rather than anything else.

    Maybe there will be protest votes - enough to create a few BNP councillors at local level. Who knows - perhaps even an MP or two in certain areas. I can remember the shock of the French election in which Jean-Marie Le Pen got a dangerous slice of the vote due to voter apathy. Perhaps something similar will happen here and it will be enough to get through to the politicians that they have to start addressing these issues.

  11. #116
    Steven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    I think there is a chance that Wilders has made the worm glance about a bit. There is tension running underneath the sitation the people of the UK find themselves in. I honestly don't know anyone who isn't fed-up to the back teeth with political correctness, crazy health and safety laws and the apparent denigration of Christianity and all things 'British', by the powers-that-be.

    Even one or two of the Labour frontbenchers are aware that there is support for the BNP in their own constituencies. Though they are only concerned about holding onto their seats rather than anything else.

    Maybe there will be protest votes - enough to create a few BNP councillors at local level. Who knows - perhaps even an MP or two in certain areas. I can remember the shock of the French election in which Jean-Marie Le Pen got a dangerous slice of the vote due to voter apathy. Perhaps something similar will happen here and it will be enough to get through to the politicians that they have to start addressing these issues.
    I hope enough of you guys speak up. The politican who deals with the problem, might just not be known yet. He might have nothing to do with politics yet, but I am sure that someone will rise up. Maybe a football hooligan.



    Here is a good one for you. I was just reading Robert Spencer's new book Stealth Jihad. There is plenty of catering going on the Muslims here too. Recently the Ridgeland School District in Illinois banned Jello-O, all because there is pork in it.

    1.How come this was never done for Jews?
    2.No one was forcing Muslims to eat it.
    3.Not a PEEP from the so called "moderates". They do not stand up and say that their religion does not have to include non-Muslims. "Moderate" Muslims are not coming to the rescue. We need to worry about our own families future generations.

  12. #117
    Sharona
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    The football hooligan is a dying breed - thank heavens!

    I don't know what the answer is, Steven. Perhaps the European elections this June will have some effect. People voting for UKIP will send an anti-Europe message to Westminster.

  13. #118
    Sharona
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    The point you make about Jell-O (what is that?) is interesting. Is it the 'do-gooders' behind that? The adminstrations, acting out of their own liberal self-righteousness, or is it the parents?

    As mentioned, for sure those who act on behalf of others, without asking them first, need to be included in this equation.

  14. #119
    Steven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharona View Post
    The point you make about Jell-O (what is that?) is interesting. Is it the 'do-gooders' behind that? The adminstrations, acting out of their own liberal self-righteousness, or is it the parents?

    As mentioned, for sure those who act on behalf of others, without asking them first, need to be included in this equation.
    That one was done by the do gooders. It was the school administration, that panned ALL pork products in 5 schools. But Muslims are requesting a lot also. Like foot washing basins be funded by taxpayers money. Some are even being allowed off the hook on interest back taxes. As they are writing it is un-Islamic on the tax forms. It was a HUGE mistake to even allow Islam to be practiced here in the first place.

    One thing that is not happening, is that Muslims are not turning down anything. They have shown no concern for anyone else, just like in the UK.

  15. #120
    maven
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    Re: Geert Wilders banned from UK

    This clip explains the Islamist agenda that informed the banning of Geert Wilders from the UK and which has now been incorporated into British thought:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otpUIMI2Pg4

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