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    Muslim Film: Christian Messiah is the Anti-Christ

    Muslim film: Christian messiah is the Antichrist

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108483

    A small Muslim production company has made a big splash with its 52-part documentary called "The Arrivals."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of8ud...eature=related

    Since being posted on YouTube in June, the documentary has gone viral with over a quarter million views to date. According to sources in the U.K., the documentary has become extremely popular among Britain's Muslim youth population. According to the documentary's self-description, its purpose is to: "explore the revelations in world religions regarding the arrivals of the Antichrist Dajjal, Imam Al-Mahdi, and the Second Coming of The Christ."


    The documentary is a whirlwind tour of Muslim apocalyptic narratives intermixed liberally with anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist themes. Although clearly home-spun, "The Arrivals" is a magnetic kitchen mix of every conspiracy imaginable, with a solid thread of Islamic apocalyptic sermonizing throughout. Images are rhythmically flashed before the viewer of Illuminati and Freemasonry symbols along with the inevitable "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" anti-Semitic conspiracy themes. And of course, it is all thoroughly topped off with graphic images of Muslim children suffering set to an "Omen"-like or "Godfather"-esque sountrack. Short clips of movies are also liberally pirated throughout. From "The Lord of the Rings" to "American Treasure," the viewer is immediately swept up into an ancient cosmic struggle with the heroic Muslim community fighting for truth against the plotting and scheming Zionists, Christians, Bilderbergers, Illuminati and the Club of Rome. The camera pans over the back of the American dollar bill with its prominent all-seeing eye too many times to count.


    Muslim apocalyptic tradition holds that the Antichrist, whom they call "the Dajjal," will be blind in one eye. Numerous Muslim authors and teachers have used this one-eyed motif to point the finger at a secret conspiracy of Freemasonry / Illuminati as the source of evil behind all world ills.


    According to the documentary, Jesus Christ as He has been worshipped by Christians throughout history is merely a Christianized version of Ra, the Egyptian Sun god. Accordingly, the video makes the following claim about Jesus (aka Ra):

    The "one-eyed" sun god was referred to as "the son of god," "the light of the world" and "the ruler of all." Has the church deceived its followers into worshipping a one-eyed sun god? Has there been a worldwide conspiracy that is preparing the world to accept the one-eyed Dajjal as the true messiah?

    The screen is then flooded with images of James Caviezel playing the part of Jesus in "The Passion." After having been severely beaten, one of his eyes is swollen shut. And then the question is answered. Has the church deceived its followers into worshipping Ra?:

    The film then moves on to the Quranic story of Jesus' birth from the Iranian film "Jesus, the Spirit of God."

    As the documentary continues:

    Our Christian brothers should know as a fact that while both Muslims and Christians believe Jesus to be Messiah and Savior, the Zionist Jews of the world deny him and are still awaiting their savior. A great question you should ask yourself is this … In the modern-day Bible, who murdered Jesus? The corrupt Jews and Romans. Who later spread the religion of Jesus? The corrupt Jews and Romans. How can you trust the murderers of Jesus? And who has been ruling the world ever since? The Jews and the Holy Roman Empire. Do you want to know what their plans are? Do you want to know who is ushering in the satanic one-eyed sun god?
    We are then treated to rhythmic images of the Star of David and the all-seeing eye.


    And finally we arrive at the conclusion. An appeal to all Muslims: "Defeat yourselves and unite with each other. By any means necessary. Because Imam al-Mahdi is coming soon. And only the ready will be strong enough to join his mission." Footage of Gandalf the White is seen on his white horse, galloping forth steadfastly across a field with his staff shining forth with light.

    By the time he arrives, the Fitna (division) will be widespread, as it is today. … The extremist Christians will state that Imam al Mahdi is the "Antichrist-dajjal." The extremist Jews will state that Imam Al-Mahdi is the "Antichrist-dajjal." By the end of this series, you should be left with no doubts as to who the Antichrist dajjal will be. He will be made king. … You have overlooked the most basic element of who the dajjal (Antichrist) will be. Why do you think he is called "Al-Masih Ad Dajjal," i.e. "The Deceiving Messiah"? Why do you think he is called "The Antichrist"? Imam al-Mahdi will never claim to be the Messiah or the Christ. … you will recognize the dajjal when he comes.
    And then we are taken to a stained glass image of Jesus with the words in bold: "This is NOT Jesus! The church has deceived you! This is pagan sun-worship!"

    And so to review, the "extremist Christians" and the "extremists Jews" will say that the Islamic Messiah figure is the Antichrist. And then we are told that the historical, biblical Jesus is actually the sun-god Antichrist who will come back to deceive the world.
    Is this a fringe group? Not according to the Hadiths.

    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...m/041.smt.html

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    Re: Muslim Film: Christian Messiah is the Anti-Christ

    Surley the usage of commercial film clips without permission of the companies involved is illegal on UTube and therefore enough to get such garbage pulled from the site??

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    It's been up since 2008 on youtube, and can be downloaded from bittorrents too. The company calls itself "Hashem's" Films. Wilder's Fitna has been banned on youtube.

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    It looks as if the fringe Muslims, the fringe right and the fringe left have a lot in common. The problem is that they really work at reaching those who want to learn more but just want others telling them what is going on.

    On the opposite side are those who see themselves as intellectual who just sit back and say "We can ignore them. They're crazy."

    Strange world. One would think the persons thinking themselves intelligent would be the ones to learn and counter what is being done by the passionate manipulators but that's not how the world works. The manipulators reach out to the average person while the intellectual ones talk among themselves.

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    Well, with BHO crawling up every Muslim's rear, its only a matter of time until movies like that will be aired in a theater near you.

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    Actually this sounds like a WorldNetDaily for fringe Muslims. Jesus (SAW) is a good guy in Islamic eschatology, not a deceiver.

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    Jesus (SAW) is a good guy in Islamic eschatology, not a deceiver.
    Andak, Offcourse the Muslim Jesus is supposed to be a good guy, because he gets rid of Jews and Christians.

    Narrated AbuHurayrah:
    http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c....html#037.4310

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: There is no prophet between me and him, that is, Jesus (peace_be_upon_him). He will descent (to the earth). When you see him, recognise him: a man of medium height, reddish fair, wearing two light yellow garments, looking as if drops were falling down from his head though it will not be wet. He will fight the people for the cause of Islam. He will break the cross, kill swine, and abolish jizyah. Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. The Muslims will pray over him.


    Volume 4, Book 55, Number 657:
    Narrated Abu Huraira:


    Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it." Abu Huraira added "If you wish, you can recite (this verse of the Holy Book): -- 'And there is none Of the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (i.e Jesus as an Apostle of Allah and a human being) Before his death. And on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness Against them." (4.159) (See Fateh Al Bari, Page 302 Vol 7)

    Exactly at the time when the Imam of the Muslims will have stepped forward to lead them in the Morning Prayer, Jesus son of Mary shall descend upon them. The Imam will step back so that Jesus may step forward (to lead the Prayer), but Jesus, placing his hand between his two shoulders, will say, "No, you should lead, for the congregation has assembled to follow you. So, the Imam will lead the Prayer. After the salutation, Jesus will say, "Open the gate;" so the gate will be opened. Outside there will be the Dajjal along with 70,000 of the armed Jews. As soon as he will look at Jesus (upon whom be peace) he will start melting like the salt in water, and will flee. Jesus will say, "I shall strike you a blow which will not let you live." And he will overtake him at the eastern gate of Lod, and Allah will cause the Jews to be defeated.... And the earth will be so filled with the Muslims as a vessel is filled with water. The entire world shall recite and follow one and the same Kalimah (word) and none shall be worshipped except Allah." (Ibn Majah).

    http://www.islamicweb.com/index.asp?...story&file=ww3



    Now, let's look at Islam's description of the Dajjal(anti-Christ), whose apprently a Jew.

    http://www.shariahprogram.ca/article...-messiah.shtml

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    Dorothy, you fall into the manipulator category, way out in the fringe.

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    Redcake, Dorothy is making a statement that Propaganda works. The far-right, the far-left, and radical Islam, share exactly the same views that the New Age movement does, about Jews and Christians. The difference is the former are trying to convince people that we're involved in some kind of conspiracy to stage a Zionist Messiah, the latter tries to convince people that the New Age messiah Maitreya would bring an end to Judeo-Christianity. So the question is are we being set up?

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    Of course agitprop works. Look at Indymedia, or to quote HP's blogger, Brett:

    From news article:

    Indymedia started out as a very interesting project whereby ‘alternative’ groups could publish news and press releases that would most likely be ignored by the mainstream media. By alternative groups, of course, I mean a variety of human rights groups, environmentalists, community organisations and that sort of thing. The idea was that it was “unmediated” by corporate interests and commercial concerns, and it was open-access.

    Well, if there is any evidence that utopia is perpetually beyond our grasp, this is it. First came the the lunatic animal rights brigade (as distinct from the perfectly reasonable animal rights brigade). Then came the far-left cultural relativists and apologists for oppressive, misogynist and homophobic supposedly anti-imperialist regimes. Then came the conspiracy theorist, ‘troofers’ and tinfoil hatters, and now, as night follows day, the Jew-haters. Indymedia has descended into a quagmire of antisemitism. Irredeemably so.


    http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/09/01/indyganda/

    Or Facebook:

    http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/S...i-Semitism_2.0

    Or Facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=151256367500

    Or Swedish AftenBloodLibel:

    http://www.honestreporting.com/artic..._Aftermath.asp

    Or the "Great Holocaust Lie"

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1111110.html


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    But I'm torn on the subject. Just as I regret that Saudi Arabia is a theocratic oppressive Bronze Age shithole that discards half of their population (women), I'm also happy to see their own stupidity and ignorance hamstring them and condemn them to failure in the long run.

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    It's called the WW2 experiment. You try and convince people that certain groups are plotting against them, so they see them as the enemy. And if you can get academia, the media, government, and religious institutions on your side, all the better. Jonah Goldberg addressed this in his book "Liberal Facism".

    http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    But I'm torn on the subject. Just as I regret that Saudi Arabia is a theocratic oppressive Bronze Age shithole that discards half of their population (women), I'm also happy to see their own stupidity and ignorance hamstring them and condemn them to failure in the long run.
    100% agree! Unfortunately, however, their failure will cost us plenty--both in blood and money!

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    What wrong with you ....savvy


    There's nothing new In the Hadith, go ask the Pope..what is the fate of the Jews and Muslims?, go ask the Sheikh ..what is the fate of Jews and Christians?, go ask the Rabbi ..what is the fate of Muslims and Christians?.


    if u ask him face to face .....hell | otherwise Burn in hell.

    so i don't know why you are upset ......because we have another story about the Messiah.

    anyway , keep reading, ppl like u will end up as a Muslim, believe me

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    Saudi, go ask the Imam, what is the fate of Muslims who do not practice Taqqia (the art of lies) to advance the cause of Islam, and also one who hangs around on Al- Naqba - Israel Forum. My post was a response to Andak's lies about Islamic escathology. I have no interest in reading the ravings of a mad Prophet, with no ethics, unless offcourse I can send a script about Muhammad's delusions to SNL.

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