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    When will we realize that giving reporters clear access to the west bank is putting our soldiers lives at risk and hurting us politically? Only Israeli reporters stories who pass through IDF censorship should be allowed to operate and report past the green line.

    Bibi has a full mandate and removing visas from journalist will create no tension in the coalition.

    We should close down all foreign media branches as well as they only seem to undermind our authority and lead to hatred and damages to us worldwide.

    The less the world sees of these Palestinians the better. If there was no reporters there would be no protests. Time to end this absurd comedy.

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    Let's kick them out and start the atrocities. Putin, Saddam and Bashir would be proud of you.

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    It really doesn't matter. In Gaza 'reporters' who weren't even IN Gaza claimed first hand knowledge of these so called atrocities. And months later when it's uncovered that they lied no one notices.

    BTW Take your friends in Sudan butchering the people in Darfur have never 'repressed' press access. The press is happy to report whatever it likes and still your friends butcher and rape and kill with no consequences. Durka Durka.

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    All news passing out of the west bank should have the same degree of censorship any country puts on wartime coverage. First of all if we close down foreign news people branch offices and that'll cut down on the number of stories. If they do report without military censorship, they can be stopped at the border when they try and leave and given a 30 day jail sentence.

    That 30 day sentence applies to all who report without military approval. Future sentences can take on more 30 day terms. By keping it like this what can world pressure do to release someone who will get out soon enough anyways.

    Of course when the reporter gets home to his foreign country he'll find his home demolished...hee...hee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    It really doesn't matter. In Gaza 'reporters' who weren't even IN Gaza claimed first hand knowledge of these so called atrocities. And months later when it's uncovered that they lied no one notices.

    BTW Take your friends in Sudan butchering the people in Darfur have never 'repressed' press access. The press is happy to report whatever it likes and still your friends butcher and rape and kill with no consequences. Durka Durka.
    Yes indeed a real journalist reporting the facts is hard to find these days. Its all about sensationalism, and some people...like takeo...just suck it up as gospel. After all, if it fits their agenda, it doesn't matter if it is the truth or not.

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    In the meantime Evil Zionist Attack Snakes!!!!!!

    Because you know, otherwise there aren't any snakes in the Middle East........?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GratefulFred View Post
    All news passing out of the west bank should have the same degree of censorship any country puts on wartime coverage. First of all if we close down foreign news people branch offices and that'll cut down on the number of stories. If they do report without military censorship, they can be stopped at the border when they try and leave and given a 30 day jail sentence.

    That 30 day sentence applies to all who report without military approval. Future sentences can take on more 30 day terms. By keping it like this what can world pressure do to release someone who will get out soon enough anyways.

    Of course when the reporter gets home to his foreign country he'll find his home demolished...hee...hee
    In that case Palestinian journalists will be the only source, and all over the world such measures would be regarded as if Israel has something to hide. I don't think it would benefit Israel's image, at all. Besides that there are still enough good Israeli journalists and human rights workers to report honestly about what's going on in the occupied territories, or do you want to silence them too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GratefulFred View Post
    When will we realize that giving reporters clear access to the west bank is putting our soldiers lives at risk and hurting us politically?
    First thing is Media is not a powerful tool (Cambodia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Congo, Dufar ....)

    Nothing stops the army and if they think the reporter is digging too deep they will kick his ass.

    Even if the reporters get some unwanted information you can always say lets have an inquiry and then forget about it.....
    Mountain look very spectacular from distance. Prostitutes look very beautiful when they make-up. War stories are very interesting. All these three things are interesting from distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shravan View Post
    First thing is Media is not a powerful tool (Cambodia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Congo, Dufar ....)

    Nothing stops the army and if they think the reporter is digging too deep they will kick his ass.

    Even if the reporters get some unwanted information you can always say lets have an inquiry and then forget about it.....
    If foreign news cameras weren't in the west bank we wouldn't have protests.

    The protestors actually wait for the news people to set up.

    Banning foreign reporters will simply put less lives at risk from both sides I should add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GratefulFred View Post
    If foreign news cameras weren't in the west bank we wouldn't have protests.

    The protestors actually wait for the news people to set up.

    Banning foreign reporters will simply put less lives at risk from both sides I should add.
    Because of foreign reporters (not everyone will be Anti-Israeli) there are two sides of the story or else they will flood the internet with fake news.

    If you want a complete ban then make sure that there are no extremists left alive. Just like the Sri-Lankan government did recently.

    WARNING! Gruesome pictures below.
    Definitely not for the lily-livered!


    http://www.athirvu.com/target_news.p...from=&ucat=17&

    Now this images are flooding the internet but there is no LTTE left....
    Mountain look very spectacular from distance. Prostitutes look very beautiful when they make-up. War stories are very interesting. All these three things are interesting from distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GratefulFred View Post
    When will we realize that giving reporters clear access to the west bank is putting our soldiers lives at risk and hurting us politically?

    Only Israeli reporters stories who pass through IDF censorship should be allowed to operate and report past the green line.

    Bibi has a full mandate and removing visas from journalist will create no tension in the coalition.

    We should close down all foreign media branches as well as they only seem to undermind our authority and lead to hatred and damages to us worldwide.

    The less the world sees of these Palestinians the better. If there was no reporters there would be no protests. Time to end this absurd comedy.

    If we are a democratic country we embrace the principles which liberal democracy entails. Democracy is not simply holding elections every 4 years (or, in Israel's case, every Monday and Thursday). Freedom of the press and freedom of expression have always been fundamental precepts of Israeli law, and rightly so. As early in 1953, in the famous Kol Haam decision, the Israeli Supreme Court realised that the competing demands of a free press and our national security need to be weighed against each other - but that ultimately there must be an "almost certain" danger to national security before freedom of the press may be curtailed.

    We certainly do not casually dispose of these fundamental principles simply because the reports which come out of the West Bank are "hurting us politically", nor even because they are in some vague way "putting our soldiers lives at risk" (how exactly are their lives at risk due to the presence of foreign media?). Nor is this an issue of petty coalition politics. This is about the character of our state.

    And finally, regardless of the above, I think the work that the media in general does in reporting from the West Bank is important. I do not believe that reports of IDF abuse of Palestinians are elaborate hoaxes, or some conspiracy designed to undermine Israel. There are real abuses. This should not even be a controversial issue. The old leftist slogan "the occupation corrupts" is, in my opinion, true. The problems arising from our presence in the West Bank should not be swept under the rug -- again, in a democratic society, the ideal way to address an issue is to openly discuss it so that good ideas prevail and bad ideas are discredited.

    It is true that when I discuss the direction which I believe Israeli policy should take I do so without any consideration of the Palestinians. This is because I believe that Israeli policy should be, first and foremost, determined by our national interests; the Palestinians have no place in the picture. But nevertheless as a human being I can and do identify with human suffering. Despite the conflict between us I take no joy in seeing the Palestinians suffer. I do not think we should be indifferent to their situation, and I certainly don't think we should be actively trying to conceal it.

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    Lest we forget there is an incumbent duty to at least try to tell the truth. Or simply call it what it is; lying propaganda and hate speech. If you want to protect those things then it's important to label them beforehand as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    Lest we forget there is an incumbent duty to at least try to tell the truth. Or simply call it what it is; lying propaganda and hate speech. If you want to protect those things then it's important to label them beforehand as such.
    You're going to need to give a specific example of a report which was a blatant lie. I don't think we can just categorically label all foreign reporting from the West Bank lying propaganda and hate speech.

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