From 29% to 12% is quite an improvement.
source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...797533,00.htmlAnti-Defamation League survey show 12% of American people hold anti-Semitic views, as opposed to 29% back in 1964
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From 29% to 12% is quite an improvement.
source: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...797533,00.htmlAnti-Defamation League survey show 12% of American people hold anti-Semitic views, as opposed to 29% back in 1964
"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"
"Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).
Yay, only 36 million people in this country hold anti-Semitic views now. Let's go out and celebrate.Originally Posted by dayag
"It is cheap to attack Israel. I am certainly not going to make a cheap attack on Israel by howling in the woods with the rest of the wolves." - Geert Wilders
Always looking on the bright side, Yala! 51 million fewer anti-Semites than there would have been had the percentage remained the same is, of course, bad news.
"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"
"Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).
the 12% are a lot more open about it.
Especially in southern California:
source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...4S20.DTL&tsp=1
Congregants at a Southern California synagogue were met by a group of neo-Nazis waving swastika flags on the last night of Hanukkah.
Rabbi Suzanne Singer says Friday's demonstration at Temple Beth El in Riverside was the third at the temple in recent months.
There were fewer than a dozen protesters at the site. Police were called but there were no incidents or arrests and the services went on as planned...
"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"
"Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).
How to lie with statistics. 12% vs 29% means what?
The 1964 population of the US was 191,889,000
Twenty nine percent of that gives us roughly 55.6 million individuals who have antisemitic views.
305,529,237: U.S. population estimate for Jan. 1, 2009
Twelve percent of that gives us roughly 36.7 million individuals who have antisemitic views.
Yes, the percentage went down, but percentages don't attack synagogues.
That number should make the Jewish community watchful. With information about Israel being as slanted as it is, and with the wildfire possibility of the spread of information over the internet, it's not a time to be complacent.
I think there was a clearer definition of what antisemitism meant in 1964.
As in, we could type anti-semitism, without having a debate about it's meaning. There were no books chastising Jews for overplaying the antisemitism card, or institutions devoted to promoting the concept that opposing human rights for Jews is fair, intellectual criticism. Some of the most antisemitic vitriol now comes from people who hold certain Jews in very high regard, and claim to love Jews, or even Jews and their loved ones, themselves. How do you poll that?
I am not sure if Jews want to be loved by this residual 12 per cent of right wing extremists, Neo nazi thugs, jihadists, pedophiles, serial killers, etc
Dialogue isn't very open on this thread so far, is it. Is there any place where dialogue can be open?
what does she mean? it just happens to be we're all pretty much in agreement so far. seems we're all able to express that in this thread. dialogue is "open".
Yeah, I don't get this either. Dorothy, how is the dialogue closed on this thread? Is anyone being prevented from expressing their views?
And by a "place where dialogue can be open" are you referring to other internet forums?
"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (Ps. 137: 5-7)"
"Any generation in which the Temple is not built, it is as if it had been destroyed in their times" (Yerushalmi, Yoma 1a).
Are we to expect one of these 12% to appear here to deliver counterpoint?
Solidarity is a good community builder, so I can see why thinking alike is encouraged. It also leads to many dangerous situations. Does any group of people want to open itself to honest dialogue? Summed up one hears from every encircled group, "We are kind, open generous, moral, knowledgeable, intellectually open, our history is one of generosity, etc. Those who disagree with this are demons, unfit to exist, immoral, out to destroy us, all of them with no exception."
Without dialogue between husband and wife, parents and schools, lawyers and the court system, and any other contending individuals or groups, problems between them can't get solved. Extremists in every group emotionally manipulate too easily.
A public discussion board such as this is not a good place to discuss issues between the groups I would agree. Every criticism is seen as an attack on the entire Jewish community from the beginning of time by some whose skins are quite thin. Maybe some place exists where individuals with differing views can be honest with one another, but I've never heard about it.
Dorothy,
Your point? Who exactly do we need to have a heart to heart with? Pat Buchanan or Luis Farakhan? Or the Pope or the King of Arabia mayhaps?
bararallu, As long as you think that every person who has an antisemitic thought is a Nazi or Louis Farrakhan, you will understand nothing, no matter how academic you see yourself. That thinking so parallels those who see all Jews in the most negative extreme way. Everyone is capable of misunderstanding another, even you. The Jew or the antisemite who is seen as an enemy is not just part of some kind of larger historical community who can be dismissed by referring to a page in a book.
The opposition that appears in the form of Andak is more like a ping pong match between all of you.
As I still believe, the necessary discussion will not appears on threads like these. Backs are very stiff.
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