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[Mehmet III]

And Native Palestinians displaced native Jews before then.

what r u talking about?

But, actually, you are factually wrong on your history anyways.

how so?

[MGB8]

There was a Jewish State before there were any Arabs intermingling with the local population. Arabs came around 650 A.D. - Hence, the Arabs displaced the former Jewish residents of the area.

Also, your historical account post from the late 19th century on was wrong, but that was dealt with on another thread.

[Mehmet III]

There was a Jewish State before there were any Arabs intermingling with the local population. Arabs came around 650 A.D. - Hence, the Arabs displaced the former Jewish residents of the area.

The fact that there was a Jewish State is true. But the fact that Arabs came later does not necessarily give that Arabs displaced Jews. That they did so is a false conclusion.

[Mediocrates]

Originally posted by Mehmet III

That was bcuz of differences within the ppl and was happening anyway regardless.
But ok.. u want an example wher millions dont die as a result?
Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Iran, ....

Iraq - How may Kurds?

Egypt - tens of thousands of dissidents, both religious and secular are killed or disappeared each year.

Libya & Morocco - ok you've had some places where the response to anything is not spontaneous slaughter.

Iran - that's a tough case, no? Where do you start and stop counting? The runup to the Shah? The end of the Shah? The war with Iraq?

[Mehmet III]

Originally posted by Mediocrates



Iraq - How may Kurds?

Egypt - tens of thousands of dissidents, both religious and secular are killed or disappeared each year.

Libya & Morocco - ok you've had some places where the response to anything is not spontaneous slaughter.

Iran - that's a tough case, no? Where do you start and stop counting? The runup to the Shah? The end of the Shah? The war with Iraq?

Good examples, but none have to do with the states deciding their own borders. These are complex issues amongst the peoples.

[MGB8]

Why doesn't it have to do with Kurdistan establishing its own borders? Or the peoples in the Former yugoslavia? Or the Basque people establishing their own state from the areas of Spain and France they control. Not to mention that Catalans in the north.

In fact, why don't the Arab people INSIDE THE ARAB NATIONS get to decide their own fate, instead of being oppressed by corrupt monarchies or dictatorships?

[Mehmet III]

Originally posted by MGB8
In fact, why don't the Arab people INSIDE THE ARAB NATIONS get to decide their own fate, instead of being oppressed by corrupt monarchies or dictatorships? [/B]

This is a very complicated question, especially if one duznt understand arab social sciences. The short answer: Arabs dont yet themselves know wat they want.