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    It might have been multiple agencies involved, including Fatah and may be even other Arab countries. Israel just took the fall for it all and provided much "expertise."
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    Jordan and Egypt did it! Another rumor for the rumor mill from Hamas...

    Hamas suspects the security forces of an Arab state were behind the assassination of a senior group operative in Dubai earlier this year, the Al-Quds Al-Araby daily reported on Tuesday.

    Mahmoud Nasser, a member of Hamas' political bureau, told the newspaper that slain commander Mahmoud al-Mabhouh was likely being tracked by agents from Jordan and Egypt prior to the January 19 killing...
    source: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1153316.html
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    Re: Israel-Britain Relations "in deep freeze"

    Even the Irish are getting in a few jabs:

    http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news...t-israel-envoy

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    Some excerpts from an op-ed piece by Alan Dershowitz in the Huffington Post:

    ...Every good intelligence agency uses stolen and forged passports. The British have been especially adept at this means of spycraft. No country that uses fake passports in their intelligence operations has the moral authority to complain about the alleged misuse of passports in this case. The only ones that have a legitimate grievance are those individuals whose passports may have been misused without their knowledge.

    I guess it's the job of foreign ministries to complain publicly when other nations do what they themselves do secretly. Hypocrisy is, after all, the homage that vice pays to virtue. I'm reminded of the famous scene in Casablanca, when officer Renault declares, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!" A croupier then approaches Renault, and hands him a roll of currency: "Your winnings, sir."

    The hypocrisy in this case seems even more blatant than usual. Is it because Israel is the alleged offender, and the world has gotten accustomed to singling out Israel for double standard condemnation?

    Shortly after the terrorist attacks in Bali, which killed a large number of Australian tourists, I had the opportunity to meet with the Australian Prime Minister. I was writing a book at the time on preemption, and I asked him whether he would have authorized a preemptive attack on the terrorist who killed Australian citizens, if such an attack would have saved their lives. His response was that Australia would have done anything it could, to prevent these terrorist attacks. Anything, I guess, except misusing passports! Is there anybody who believes that Australia would not have used forged or stolen passports to prevent the Bali massacres? If Great Britain could have stopped the London subway attack by misusing passports, would MI6 have allowed the terrorism to go forward in the name of preserving passport integrity? Of course not. The same is true of Spain with regard to the Madrid bombing and to every other country in the world that seeks to prevent terrorism. Well, if the Mossad did in fact kill al-Mabhouh, they too did it to prevent the killing of their innocent civilians.

    The Israelis are always accused by their enemies, and sometimes even by their friends, of taking "disproportionate" action to stop terrorists. But what could be more proportionate than a carefully planned and specifically targeted attack on an admitted terrorist who boasted of being an active combatant?...
    source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-d..._b_482586.html

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    For the record, I would be greatly disappointed if it was NOT the Mossad that got rid of that Hamas piece of garbage. My ONLY ? would be what took so long and why only one at a time?
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    Re: Israel-Britain Relations "in deep freeze"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mediocrates View Post
    Even the Irish are getting in a few jabs:

    http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news...t-israel-envoy
    The image of a glass-house and stones comes to mind when members of that particular political party speaks of standards and morality.
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