5 Muslim Soldiers Arrested at Fort Jackson, allegedly tried to poison food supply

[Yala]

Via Drudge:

CBN News has learned exclusively that five Muslim soldiers at Fort Jackson in South Carolina were arrested just before Christmas. It is unclear whether the men are still in custody. The five were part of the Arabic Translation program at the base.

The men are suspected of trying to poison the food supply at Fort Jackson.

A source with intimate knowledge of the investigation, which is ongoing, told CBN News investigators suspect the "Fort Jackson Five" may have been in contact with the group of five Washington, DC area Muslims that traveled to Pakistan to wage jihad against U.S. troops in December. That group was arrested by Pakistani authorities, also just before Christmas.

http://blogs.cbn.com/stakelbeckonter...ackson-in.aspx

[andak01]

The headline says "questioned", not arrested. Were they arrested or questioned? And why wasn't this story run elsewhere? Does the Christian Broadcasting Network have some special insider scoop?

[Yala]

The headline says "questioned", not arrested. Were they arrested or questioned?

Maybe they changed it? The article also says arrested.

And why wasn't this story run elsewhere? Does the Christian Broadcasting Network have some special insider scoop?

Google is your friend.

NY Post: Five Muslim soldiers arrested over Fort Jackson poison probe: report

Fox News: Army Investigates Alleged Attempt by Soldiers to Poison Food at Fort Jackson

It's odd that other MSM organizations is not reporting on this story at all. It is either a bull story or a cover-up, I'm not sure which.

[andak01]

So essentially a one source article which soft pedals...

"there is no credible information to support the allegations".

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz0g75yVrJb

The U.S. Army is investigating allegations that soldiers were attempting to poison the food supply at Fort Jackson in South Carolina.

It is an extremely serious allegation, but it remains an investigation, not a proven event. If it turns out indeed that "there is not credible information to support the allegations", then Fox New, CBN, the New York Post and Israelforum will have had their day anyway. In in the comments of the post article, they got the hoped for response. Because right, killing a billion is the appropriate response to a rumor about a poisoning plot.

nyc stinks
02/20/2010 6:44 AM
I will say it again because libs think all are equal. Kill all muslims around the world and in AMERICA. Collatoral damage killings are the only way to be sure we get all terrorists.

[dayag]

So essentially a one source article which soft pedals...

"there is no credible information to support the allegations".

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...#ixzz0g75yVrJb

The U.S. Army is investigating allegations that soldiers were attempting to poison the food supply at Fort Jackson in South Carolina.

It is an extremely serious allegation, but it remains an investigation, not a proven event. If it turns out indeed that "there is not credible information to support the allegations", then Fox New, CBN, the New York Post and Israelforum will have had their day anyway. In in the comments of the post article, they got the hoped for response. Because right, killing a billion is the appropriate response to a rumor about a poisoning plot.

nyc stinks
02/20/2010 6:44 AM
I will say it again because libs think all are equal. Kill all muslims around the world and in AMERICA. Collatoral damage killings are the only way to be sure we get all terrorists.

"In in the comments of the post article, they got the hoped for response"?! You think that Fox News, CBN, the New York Post and Israelforum want to provoke genocidal feelings towards Muslims because of this one insane comment?

Can you prove that accusation? You are upset about these five Muslim soldiers being judged as guilty until proven innocent in the media. Are you not treating Fox News, CBN, the New York Post and Israelforum the same?

[andak01]

"In in the comments of the post article, they got the hoped for response"?! You think that Fox News, CBN, the New York Post and Israelforum want to provoke genocidal feelings towards Muslims because of this one insane comment?

I think that the same kind of sloppy journalism and bias is exactly what the posters here find appalling when they are the target of it. Hence the existence of groups like CAMERA and Campus Watch. I've seen posters mention comments pulled from Huffington Post and others as proof that they are some kind of Nazis. They complain that x post wasn't deleted, etc.

To genocidal feelings? Pat Robertson from what I've read is on a Crusade, which; should it end in genocide, wouldn't bother him a bit.

Can you prove that accusation? You are upset about these five Muslim soldiers being judged as guilty until proven innocent in the media. Are you not treating Fox News, CBN, the New York Post and Israelforum the same?

I'm not even certain there was an arrest. It looks like there were some people brought in for questioning over a rumor.

To your last question, no. Yala is not Israelforum. And this thread does not constitute Israelforum, nor for that matter Yala. It is disturbing to see that, in this case, Yala suspends disbelief in a source, which; if they were talking about Jews in the way that Pat Robertson does, would not be acceptable.

What I'm saying is that there is a pattern of CBN (Pat Robertson's network) quoting allegations like this one as though they were established fact and then not doing followup. That pattern extends to Fox News and the Post running CBN articles as though they were a credible source. In fact there have been a number of arrests of Muslims who were later released when no evidence was found for the arrest. I have personally known Muslims who were taken in for questioning, missed their flights and were released. They were released because, after questioning, there was absolutely no reason to hold them. Most of them were pretty understanding of it.

[Yala]

Andak,

There is an investigation into the possibility of soldiers poisoning food at a US Army base. 5 Muslims were arrested and it seems like they were released. Should we ignore the story because it offends you?

I didn't know what CBN was. I got the link from Drudge Report, which I credited in my initial post. Drudge usually vets stories before posting links.

I am not responsible for the comments on the NY Post site, just as I don't hold you responsible for anti-Jew comments on the Huffington Post. Furthermore, I didn't deny that those disgusting comments exist nor did I defend them as you often do.

[andak01]

Andak,

There is an investigation into the possibility of soldiers poisoning food at a US Army base. 5 Muslims were arrested and it seems like they were released. Should we ignore the story because it offends you?

If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be offended. People get arrested and released everyday. If someone found an article about Israel with the journalistic integrity of Pat Robertson's 700 Club news service and showed you that it was quoted in Huffington Post or MSNBC, you'd be all over me about sourcing it. Suppose the subject was financial fraud ala Bernie Madoff and they made sure the headline read "Jew arrested on Fraud".

Is there a connection between being Muslim and poisoning water supplies??? Pat Robertson wants you to think there is.

I didn't know what CBN was. I got the link from Drudge Report, which I credited in my initial post. Drudge usually vets stories before posting links.

I believe you didn't know what they were, though I've mentioned it in the past.

I am not responsible for the comments on the NY Post site, just as I don't hold you responsible for anti-Jew comments on the Huffington Post. Furthermore, I didn't deny that those disgusting comments exist nor did I defend them as you often do.

No, you aren't responsible. But you of all people should understand that repeatedly focusing on malignant rumors and "connecting the dots" and "waking up" and all that other cancerous agitprop is a pretext to violence. Dots are human beings and we never hear about "waking up" to love one's neighbor. If this is a non-story, then those Muslim soldiers deserve equal respect to any other American soldiers. In fact, they were performing a duty that few Americans can by translating.

[andak01]

Update. Nobody was arrested and the story was based on something that somebody believed they overheard. But the damage is done and the Muslims are linked to poisoning water supplies. Boffo!

http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?...=84222&catid=2

[redcake]

It's weird that you do not recognize "the damage" to be the actual Muslims who plotted to poison our drinking water, back when it was first revealed after the first WTC bombing.

The "damage" is the evidence that terror groups have planned to target food/water. The subsequent paranoia, misreports, false alarms, whatever, are still as a result of the original threat.

[Yala]

If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be offended. People get arrested and released everyday. If someone found an article about Israel with the journalistic integrity of Pat Robertson's 700 Club news service and showed you that it was quoted in Huffington Post or MSNBC, you'd be all over me about sourcing it. Suppose the subject was financial fraud ala Bernie Madoff and they made sure the headline read "Jew arrested on Fraud".

I see your point, understand it and even agree. But you should note that I did not change the title to make it more provocative. I just copied their original title and only after did they change it.

I do not think that CBN, if it is indeed the intellectual brainchild of Pat Robertson, is a legitimate news agency and I am surprised that Drudge sourced it.

Now on to the story. I just read your link. The story is a real story even though it seems that soldiers were investigated and not arrested. Quoting your link:

Fort Jackson, SC (WLTX, CBS) - Three of the five Fort Jackson soldiers being investigated for claims of making threats have been cleared, CBS News reports.

Which means 2 are still under investigation.

[andak01]

It's weird that you do not recognize "the damage" to be the actual Muslims who plotted to poison our drinking water, back when it was first revealed after the first WTC bombing.

No, I distinguish between actual plots and fantasy conversations. I distinguish between ongoing investigations that may not prove conclusive and prior investigations that have brought forth evidence. In a word, I believe people are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty because they are Muslims.

The "damage" is the evidence that terror groups have planned to target food/water. The subsequent paranoia, misreports, false alarms, whatever, are still as a result of the original threat.

Without a 24/7 media campaign to increase that paranoia, we wouldn't have a fraction of this many false alarms. A few months ago, two Arabs were arrested for sitting in a coffee shop and talking about selling a used car! BTW, Arab Christians, Indians and Sikhs are all affected by this paranoia.

[redcake]

No, I distinguish between actual plots and fantasy conversations.

As well you should. Unfortunately, it stops being a fantasy once investigations, and even court testimony reveals actual evidence of planned attacks on reservoirs, and farming production.

We can roughly trace such accusations back to the Palestinian Arab collusion with Nazi Germany during Operation Atlas, and the renewed threat found in the Manilla materials left behind by Ramzi Yousef.

BTW, Arab Christians, Indians and Sikhs are all affected by this paranoia.

I think you missed a few, but good to know where your sympathies lie.

[andak01]

We can roughly trace such accusations back to the Palestinian Arab collusion with Nazi Germany during Operation Atlas, and the renewed threat found in the Manilla materials left behind by Ramzi Yousef.

Or to medieval seige tactics, take your pick. BTW, poisoning the water supply was also a canard leveled at the Jews from time to time. So yes, it's a real threat as well as a potent incitement. Below, the Japanese accused of poisoning the Honolulu water supply. And I'll bet you could find this same thing in WWI and before.

Word that the water supply of Honolulu had been poisoned spread rapidly, and Japanese landing parties were observed at various points. The wildest tales were believed. A truck that had been delivering milk for months to Hickam Field became, on the morning of the 7th, a Japanese armored vehicle, complete with troops and machine guns. Japanese cars and trucks were supposed to have deliberately created traffic jams on the roads leading to military installations. Japanese pilots wore civilian clothes, it was thought, so that they could mingle with the civil population if they were shot down. Finally, it was reliably reported that on a specified kilocycle a message--"Chopsticks, I don't want to set the world on fire. Why can't it happen again tonight"--was heard, and all preparations were made for another attack on Pearl Harbor.

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/...trategy-6.html

And here you go, WWI.

Most Americans saw Germany as a dangerous monarchy with autocratic militaristic thinking, including a hidden agenda to undermine democracy and U. S. power. There were allegations of industrial sabotage, poisoning water supplies, kidnapping individuals, and engaging in espionage within American labor unions by Germans to keep the United States busy on the home front. These rumors, along with extensive submarine warfare, added to the distrust of the Germans.

http://www.paradoxmind.com/1302/WWI/WWI_Two.html

And here are the the Americans accused of deliberately destroying the water supply. (And please redcake, don't claim that I support or believe this claim or the site that it came from. My point is that many people use destruction of a water supply or rumor of it as an incitement.)

The US-led allied forces deliberately destroyed Iraq's water supply during the Gulf War - flagrantly breaking the Geneva Convention and causing thousands of civilian deaths.

http://www.radioislam.org/historia/z..._09172000.html

And here is the real thing, slightly predating Operation Atlas.

Attempts to spread sickness and disease among enemy forces has a long history. The ancient Assyrians poisoned their enemy's water supply, and ancient Greeks poisoned the water supply of their enemy with the herb hellebore, which caused violent diarrhea. In 1340 attackers used a catapult to throw dead animals over the walls of the castle of Thun L'Evêque, causing such a stink that the air was so unendurable the defenders negotiated a truce.


http://www.history.org/Foundation/jo...04/warfare.cfm

I think you missed a few, but good to know where your sympathies lie.

Sure, because I don't want innocent people to be picked on while guilty people exploit profiling by shaving their beards and hanging out in strip clubs, I must be behind water supply poisoners. Or maybe I'm just for using the most effective means to achieve security while maintaining a free and diverse society.

[redcake]

I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but I find you list of profiling victims to be more about you tailoring your empathy towards your agenda, than reality. I've been profiled as much as any of the groups you've named.