Corruption in Israel

[danholo]

Some Israelis are telling me that corruption in Israel is bad.
They say that some ministers in the government get $10,000 a month and some stay in five star hotels costing at $1000 a day!

Found this from Jerusalem Post:

From news article:

Of the 99 countries TI surveyed last year, Cameroon ranked 99 as the most corrupt, while Denmark was given the highest mark as the most honest nation. Israel came in at 20, dropping from 19 the previous year. In fact, since TI began monitoring Israel in 1996 - when it was ranked 14 - Israel has consistently slipped in the TI corruption rating.

So, what is being or should be done Israel to stop this decline?

[MiniMizer]

Originally posted by danholo

So, what is being or should be done Israel to stop this decline?

A revolution?

[danholo]

Originally posted by MiniMizer



A revolution?

Well, no. I just didn't know corruption in Israel was "wide spread". Just wanted to know how it has effected the State itself and what is being done about it? Is law enforcement doing anything or are they corrupt too?

[Miriam]

Originally posted by MiniMizer

A revolution?

Funny, I've been thinking the same for some time now

[Miriam]

Originally posted by danholo

Well, no. I just didn't know corruption in Israel was "wide spread". Just wanted to know how it has effected the State itself and what is being done about it? Is law enforcement doing anything or are they corrupt too?

There is no such thing as private-sector-only corruption, I'm afraid

[NewsGuy]

Originally posted by danholo

From news article:

Of the 99 countries TI surveyed last year, Cameroon ranked 99 as the most corrupt, while Denmark was given the highest mark as the most honest nation. Israel came in at 20...

Well, if Israel is 20th from 99, it means that Israel is in the 80% percentile for being above board. That's really not bad. Not as good as it should be, but not exactly a crisis.

Taking into account the corporate corruption and bribery that goes on right here in the U.S. and throughout the world, I would say that there are bad apples in every society.

At the same time, there are people dedicated to exposing corruption and Israel's legal system is well set up to uncover and prosecute these crimes, which it does all the time.

[Matzoh Ball]

OK as a matter of reference, where does the USA rank on that scale? The USA, I'm sure everyone knows, has numerous and all-pervasive racial perks and set-asides, conferring HUGE advantages or disadvantages on one, depending on one's skin color, in college financial assistance, business contracting "points", housing financing, etc. Many of us are not from the USA, but a LOT of us are, let's get some perspective here. I'm willing to bet the situation, if it exists, in Israel is MINOR compared to the USA.

[Rob]

Originally posted by Matzoh Ball
OK as a matter of reference, where does the USA rank on that scale? The USA, I'm sure everyone knows, has numerous and all-pervasive racial perks and set-asides, conferring HUGE advantages or disadvantages on one, depending on one's skin color, in college financial assistance, business contracting "points", housing financing, etc. Many of us are not from the USA, but a LOT of us are, let's get some perspective here. I'm willing to bet the situation, if it exists, in Israel is MINOR compared to the USA.

The USA is ranked 16th while Israel is tied at 18 with Germany

http://www.transparency.org/pressrel...release.en.pdf

[Mediocrates]

I couldn't find a single arab or predominately muslim country on th list. Talk about front loading the data!

[jmjaffe]

The roots of the problems of corruption in Israel are inextricably linked to the roots of political empowerment. Israel has a "proportional" system of elections for legislators and no effective separation between the legislative and executive branches of government - hence no effective protection agains abuses of power. The proportional system has instilled an operating principle that democracy is the means to accumulate political power and distribute public resources via a system of patronage.

There is a way to remedy this. If you want to learn about the solution, check out the following website:

http://www.directrepisrael.org/EN

[Toga]

Some Israelis are telling me that corruption in Israel is bad.
They say that some ministers in the government get $10,000 a month and some stay in five star hotels costing at $1000 a day!

Found this from Jerusalem Post:

From news article:

Of the 99 countries TI surveyed last year, Cameroon ranked 99 as the most corrupt, while Denmark was given the highest mark as the most honest nation. Israel came in at 20, dropping from 19 the previous year. In fact, since TI began monitoring Israel in 1996 - when it was ranked 14 - Israel has consistently slipped in the TI corruption rating.

So, what is being or should be done Israel to stop this decline?

Israel is no more corrupt than Europe. The difference however is that for the Jews to criticize the Israel and their government is as important as eating or breathing.

..............and you thought you understood the Jews....

[Cato]

Israel is no more corrupt than Europe. The difference however is that for the Jews to criticize the Israel and their government is as important as eating or breathing.

..............and you thought you understood the Jews....

What part of Europe are you talking about?

Scandinavia leads every other part of the world in terms of not being currupt, the rest of Europe is either about equal, or not as good as Israel.

Russia is pretty high in terms of dishonesty on the curruption list I think.

[Mediocrates]

I submit the evaluations themselves are culturally biased. Go to Mexico for example and you see that regulation is considered corruption because it usually results in extra taxes but essentially is a kind of graft. Europe sees regulation in and of itself good even when it's silly or counterproductive.

[Justcurious]

The USA is ranked 16th while Israel is tied at 18 with Germany

http://www.transparency.org/pressrel...release.en.pdf

Your list refers to old lists, this is the 2005 one: http://www.transparency.org/cpi/2005...ia_pack_en.pdf

Israel is 28th, even further down.

[Justcurious]

Rpt.