Human Rights Watch condemns Palestinians

[ibrodsky]

Human Rights Watch has joined Amnesty International in accusing Palestinians of Crimes Against Humanity.

from the BBC:

A leading human rights group has condemned Palestinian suicide bombings as crimes against humanity.

A strongly-worded report by the New York-based Human Rights Watch says those who plan such attacks - which have killed scores of Israeli citizens over the past two years - should face criminal investigation.

Human Rights Watch report
The group says that even during a time of conflict, all attacks against civilians are crimes against humanity and should be treated as such.

Its report - entitled Erased in a Moment - concludes that those who carry out suicide bombings are not "martyrs" but war criminals, as are people who plan such attacks

Arafat and the Palestinian Authority took no effective action to bring to justice those who incited, planned or assisted in carrying out bombings and other attacks on Israeli civilians

[Layton]

Good, its about time someone did a report on this (Though i think AI mentioned it a couple of time to). Suicide bombers are war criminals if they target civilians, nothing less.

[L@mplighterM]

So now what was common knowledge has been released in a report by the HRW.

I would however have concluded that Palestinians/Muslims act collectively and in harmony with one purpose in mind and that is to destroy Israel.

Every time a suicide bomber, shooter, etc. enters Israel they are not acting alone rather they become agents of the Palestinians/Muslims. They are spurred on by the Palestinian people and its leadership.

When the new international laws and/or court its going to be extremely difficult for Israel to handle the situation because in the case of the Palestinian/Muslims its going to be the individuals that are held responsible on the PA.


In the future when Israel enters the WB and GS the government as well as individual members of the IDF will be held responsible for their actions. Thus we can expect criminal charges if Israel undertakes an excursion to target a known terrorist.

[Miriam]

Originally posted by ibrodsky

Human Rights Watch has joined Amnesty International in accusing Palestinians of Crimes Against Humanity.

On careful reading there is IMO little reason to be pleased by the report: http://www.israelforum.com/board/sho...&threadid=1786

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by Miriam
On careful reading there is IMO little reason to be pleased by the report: http://www.israelforum.com/board/sho...&threadid=1786

Yeah, at least one person said this about the Amnesty International report.

Sorry, but it is a step in the right direction when these groups condemn Palestinian crimes. Even though those crimes should have been condemned years ago, and even though those groups have spent years condemning Israel.

Put another way, Miriam, there may be "little reason" to be pleased but "little" is better than none. We should encourage these groups at least to the extent they get anything right.

Plus, you overlook the fact that we can now cite groups that have never been shy when it comes to criticizing Israel as having declared the Palestinians guilty of Crimes Against Humanity.

I think this is clearly a positive development and it would be foolish to brush it off for not being 100% to our liking.

[Miriam]

Originally posted by ibrodsky
Yeah, at least one person said this about the Amnesty International report.

Sorry, but it is a step in the right direction when these groups condemn Palestinian crimes. Even though those crimes should have been condemned years ago, and even though those groups have spent years condemning Israel.

Put another way, Miriam, there may be "little reason" to be pleased but "little" is better than none. We should encourage these groups at least to the extent they get anything right.

Plus, you overlook the fact that we can now cite groups that have never been shy when it comes to criticizing Israel as having declared the Palestinians guilty of Crimes Against Humanity.

I think this is clearly a positive development and it would be foolish to brush it off for not being 100% to our liking.

I wish I could share your optimism. Show one single positive practical consequence of the Amnesty report.

[ibrodsky]

Originally posted by Miriam
I wish I could share your optimism. Show one single positive practical consequence of the Amnesty report.

Gee, you are really in a negative mood...

These reports don't decide who lives and who dies. But they are part of the global PR war. For a long time, these groups did nothing but single out Israel for condemnation. Now, two of the most "respected" of such groups have charged the Palestinians with serious crimes.

It doesn't resolve the conflict or ensure Israel's survival, but it forces those claiming to be human rights advocates to either admit Israelis have been brutalized by Palestinians or shed all pretense of fairness.

I think this reflects the fact that more people now recognize that Palestinian and Al Qaeda terrorism are different sides of the same coin. It also suggests that Jews have succeeded in shaming these "watchdog" groups into restoring some semblance of balance to their reports.

[Dantheman]

Originally posted by ibrodsky
These reports don't decide who lives and who dies. But they are part of the global PR war. For a long time, these groups did nothing but single out Israel for condemnation. Now, two of the most "respected" of such groups have charged the Palestinians with serious crimes.

It doesn't resolve the conflict or ensure Israel's survival, but it forces those claiming to be human rights advocates to either admit Israelis have been brutalized by Palestinians or shed all pretense of fairness.

I think this reflects the fact that more people now recognize that Palestinian and Al Qaeda terrorism are different sides of the same coin. It also suggests that Jews have succeeded in shaming these "watchdog" groups into restoring some semblance of balance to their reports.

I totally agree.

[Miriam]

Originally posted by ibrodsky

Gee, you are really in a negative mood...

Amnesty accuses IDF of war crimes in Jenin

By Joseph Algazy, Ha'aretz Correspondent, and Ha'aretz Service

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...ubContrassID=0