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    Time to Expel Arafat?

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    Time to Expel Arafat?

    In laying out his campaign platform, Defense Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made a landmark declaration this week. If elected, promised the former Prime Minister, he would banish Yasser Arafat from the Palestinian territories immediately. While the announcement is music to the ears of many terrorism-affected Israelis, the removal of Arafat could ignite a tinderbox leading to an all out war between Israel and the Palestinians. Such a move could also provoke rage-driven insurgencies in several neighboring Arab countries, potentially destabilizing the entire Middle East. And at the same time, booting Arafat is almost certain to bring Israel in direct conflict with the Bush Administration, which has insisted on Israel leaving the Palestinian leader intact. So, is the removal of Arafat still worth all these risks?

    Throughout the decades, Yasser Arafat has been directly responsible for a considerable portion of the world's deadliest terror attacks. His troops have been implicated in the murder of American civilians and government officials, as well as in countless massacres of thousands of other men, women and children of all faiths. In the past 25 years, Arafat has led long and grueling battles to ethnically cleanse Jordan of its non-Palestinian minority, Lebanon of its Christian community, and Israel of its Jewish inhabitants. Wherever Arafat lands, he is sure to bring with him widespread death and misery to all within a thousand-mile radius and beyond.

    Caught Red Handed

    But the events of the past two years have proven to Israel and the United States that Arafat is the main hindrance to making progress in achieving regional peace. After launching a second Jihad-Intifada, Arafat was caught red-handed ordering a shipment of illegal heavy weapons from Iran ferried by the ill-fated Karine-A ship. This would signal a turning point in U.S.-Palestinian relations.

    Shortly thereafter, the Palestinian Ra'is was proven to be directly financing an extensive terrorist infrastructure responsible for a myriad of suicide bombings and other massacres of Israelis and Americans. When Arafat's hand-written signature was found on purchase orders for suicide bomber supplies, the United States finally followed Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's cue in declaring Arafat to be "irrelevant." Of course, in State Department lingo, "irrelevant" means "proven to be responsible for mass murder, but too well-protected by the Europeans to allow Israel to eliminate him."

    However, as the Palestinian murder spree continues unabated, most Israelis and Americans are becoming increasingly convinced that there can be no end to the Middle East conflict while Arafat remains at the helm of the Palestinian terrorism command center. In recent months, after particularly large-scale massacres of Jewish civilians, Israel has come – literally -- within inches of eliminating Arafat. The recent demolition of Arafat's Ramallah compound was one in which bulldozers were scratching at the walls of the room in which Arafat was holed up. It was only with supreme pressure from Colin Powell and former Israeli DM Ben-Eliezer that Arafat was spared. But with the upcoming general elections in Israel, there now arises the possibility of a changing of the guard.

    Already, a special unit of the IDF was reported to have rehearsed an operation to quickly grab Arafat, and transport him into exile in a remote part of a desert located in an undisclosed Arab country. These preparations indicate a general agreement shared not only by Netanyahu, but by Sharon, too, in consultation with IDF military analysts. However, the IDF believes that the timing is not yet ripe for the removal of Arafat, due to the impending U.S. war on Iraq.

    Out of the Equation

    With his newest campaign pledge to expel Arafat, Bibi is going out on a limb. He is betting that the international community has grown tired of the ongoing Israeli-Arab conflict and of the barrage of Arab and Islamic terrorism that plagues the world. Netanyahu knows that to make progress, Arafat must be taken to of the equation, so that a new more moderate Palestinian leadership will be able to ascend to power in the vacuum created by Arafat's absence.

    On the other hand, if Islamic or other terror-supporting Palestinians seize power in the Palestinian territories, Netanyahu hopes either for an internal Palestinian struggle that will leave them as a divided and weakened threat to Israel. And at the same time, he hopes that the world will give Israel a free pass to operate more decisively against the Palestinian Jihadists. Either way, Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu views the expulsion of Yasser Arafat as a chance to score a victory against Palestinian terrorism. But Netanyahu is also faced with certain realities:

    The world has not grown tired of terrorism against Israel, and certainly has no interest in Israel making the Middle East even more unstable by expelling Arafat. The international community is perfectly content to let more Jews be slaughtered in a bid to ensure smooth Arab oil delivery.

    The End-Game of Expulsion

    But perhaps Netanyahu has already taken this into account. It is possible that he has correctly concluded that Israel must pursue the war against Arab terrorism in ways that make the most sense for Israel's own interests. The lesson of the past few years is that no nation, including the U.S., will lift a finger to stop Israel from being destroyed methodically by Palestinian massacres.

    Only Israel alone can ensure its survival, and this is a fact well understood by Netanyahu. This is why he is less diplomatic than Sharon in his rejection of American demands to create a guaranteed Palestinian State despite the ongoing terrorism. This is also the reason why Netanyahu promises to boot Arafat without further delay, regardless of the strange U.S. prohibition against touching the Palestinian arch-terrorist.

    Bibi knows that the world will be angered, and is certain to pass even more anti-Israel resolutions at the UN if Israel acts without American support. Ultimately, though, Netanyahu and leaders all across the globe understand that Israel is regional superpower that will not be bullied into abandoning its citizens to the mercy of the Hamas, Tanzim and Islamic Jihad.

    Yasser Arafat must exit to make room for a new generation of more moderate – or, at least more pragmatic – Palestinian leaders who have the capacity to make peace. Hopefully, the current Palestinian dictator will leave willingly, but otherwise, Netanyahu is wise to show Arafat the door.

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    What do you think? Is it time yet to expel Arafat? What would be the result?

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    I am not that familiar with domestic Israeli politics. What are Bibi's chances vs Sharons'? Who is expected to be able to deliver on his word? Which party is expected to win the most seats in the Knesset? Thanks


    The answer to the basic premise of the thread is that a swift kick to his (arafats') pants is long overdue. However, i am not sure if exile will help the Israelis fight Islamic Terrorism. The Palestinian capability for self-delusion and a complete disconnect from truth and reality has been well-established. Exile will only make him seem more of a martyr-figure.

    I would also argue, that arafat deserving exile (and worse) notwithstanding, he is really Israels' best foil when trying to convince the world of the perils of Islamic Terrorism. Most, if not all non-muslim countries (with exceptions such as France) know what a scum-bad arafat is. As long he is at the helm of Palestinian affairs, Israel will always have the advantage because arafat is thoroughly discredited.

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    Mofaz and Netanyahu are strong supporters for exile for Arafat, if the terrorism continues like it is doing rite now, Israel wont have any choice but to put him in exile, but I really dont know if that will help stop terrorism, The better solution would be to exile the leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Arafat is just a person there, hes a useless leader with no power to control anything.

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    whereamigod
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    more fake quotes from the Quran? Is this all you do all day?

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    IlyaFurman
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    Originally posted by whereamigod
    more fake quotes from the Quran? Is this all you do all day?
    Hey man, calm down, why dont you tell him "nicely" that the quran verses he posted is wrong, instead of yelling and showing quotes from other religious books? By the way this is not the topic of the thread.

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    Simon
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    Its my signature, ya dipwad.


    Surah 5:51

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    IlyaFurman
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    NewsGuy do you really think that deporting Arafat will help the Israeli cause, I just want your opinion? That wont help at all, I think that Arafat doesnt really do much, I dont think he makes terrorists go and do terrorist crimes, but yes, he doesnt stop them, or do much to stop them.

    And Simon, your signature is false, but its beautifully made out of context into hate.

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    whereamigod
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    IlyaFurman, you're right. My apologies, its just these arrogrant guys screaming anti-semitism at any given chance and then post innacurate and just plain stupid comments like that. Again, meant no offense, just want to show the other side of the coin.

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    whereamigod
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    They wil not force Arafat into exile. They've been making this threat for a long time and still no results. What bothers me about their position towards chairman Arafat is that, one minute they call him irrelevant and that he does nothing, the next minute they blame him for every possible terrorist act and bomb his compund. How is he supposed to stop terrorism when he's in a compund no bigger than a jail cell in the fetal position holding on for dear life at weeks at a time. Its hypocritical.

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    The other side of the coin, newbie, is that if you set every Palestinian up in condos in Miami they'd still want to destroy Israel. If you set them up in condos as nice as the ones on Miami in the West Bank and gave them their state, they'd still want to destroy Israel.

    The Qu'ran, like the Bible and Torah, contains many conflicting statements. You go through the Bible and the Qu'ran, you can find a passage supporting or decrying basically anything. Sure, there ARE quotes from the Qu'ran saying kill all Jews and other non-Muslims (Jews especially). But there are quotes basically saying "peace and love among all men, regardless of faith, because they are men (men includes women :/)."

    Since Muslims like to pay attention to the anti-Muslim quotes in the Qu'ran and ignore the ones that say all men are equal and that stuff, I assume that the anti-Muslim ones are more "true."

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    whereamigod
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    Newbie?? Come on kid, if you're gonna try and insult me, at least put some thought into it. Also, your message had nothing to do with the thread. Try better next time.

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    Arafat made almost as much trouble in Lebanon as he does on the West Bank. Bullet to the head is my preferred solution. I can at least see the logic for allowing Arafat to live, but what I can't understand is why the Hamas and PFLP leadership wasn't whacked a long time ago. The U.S. never hid the fact we wanted to kill Bin Laden, and he is a lot more popular among Arabs than Arafat ever was.

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    Turn that around. Assuming he is in fact mortal and not the collective figment of a million miserable souls, let's assume that he dies one day. Clearly in sole control of virtually everything in the state as he is today. Where does that leave your jihad? Sounds like the quick road to anarchy. Though I'm sure you'll whip up a ready reason why he is unable to have a succession plan. One wonders if he dreamt of a genetic monarchy but was, uh, not up for the job.

    Actually I think expulsion is a mistake. I favor a firing squad a la Ceaucescu.

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    I would also prefer a firing squad. However, I believe that exiling Arafat would still yield positive results.

    Take a step back and survey the situation since Arafat's "triumphant return." Arafat played the Oslo game all the while creating a deep-rooted terrorist infrastructure. While talking about peace to the West he made sure Palestinian schools, media, and mosques became terrorist breeding, training, and glorification centers.

    Arafat is one of the world's most successful liars and deceivers. He managed to get Israel, under pressure from the Clinton Admin. and the EU, to help Arafat arm 30,000 men. He pretended to fight terrorists, but actually used terrorists to apply pressure while denying responsibility and shifting the blame to Israel. His end game was a "peace settlement" that would result in one million Arabs settling inside Israel in a modern Trojan horse scenario.

    Arafat has to go. I'd prefer to see him dead, but exile is better than nothing. Yes, the Arabs will go nuts, but I suspect Arab leaders will quickly contain that as it threatens them more than it threatens Israel.

    I don't think, however, that Netanyahu is simply willing to risk alienating the US. I think Netanyahu has closer ties to the US -- he has testified before Congress about terrorism and received a standing ovation for it -- and believes that like the attack on Iraq's nuclear reactor there will be complaints at first but they will gradually give way to thank yous.

    I wouldn't be surprised if an exiled Arafat joined forces with bin Laden or an exiled Saddam.

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    L@mplighterM
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    Originally posted by ibrodsky

    Yes, the Arabs will go nuts, but I suspect Arab leaders will quickly contain that as it threatens them more than it threatens Israel.

    The Arabs are already nuts!

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