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    Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews
    By JONAH MANDEL
    10/18/2010 05:13

    According to Rabbi, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.

    The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.

    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.

    According to Yosef, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.

    “In Israel, death has no dominion over them... With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

    This is his servant... That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.

    “Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.

    That is why gentiles were created,” he added.

    Yosef’s Saturday night sermons have seen many controversial statements from the 90-year-old rabbi. In August, Yosef caused a diplomatic uproar when he wished a plague upon the Palestinian people and their leaders, a curse he retracted a few weeks later, when he blessed them along with all of Israel’s other peace-seeking neighbors.
    http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/Jew...aspx?id=191782

    To think this nutjob actually runs Shas

    I really, really hope Shinui is revived. Israel needs it.

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Yes, we have our nut jobs too. Now, exactly how many Israelis follow the teachings of this man? Most Israelis are secular and even most religious Jews ard NOT followers of his.

    Now, let's contrast this to the influence of Hamas on the Palestinian Arabs ... In 2006 they thoroughly defeated the secular Palestinian leadership. Go figure ...
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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by Reffo View Post
    Yes, we have our nut jobs too. Now, exactly how many Israelis follow the teachings of this man? Most Israelis are secular and even most religious Jews ard NOT followers of his.

    Now, let's contrast this to the influence of Hamas on the Palestinian Arabs ... In 2006 they thoroughly defeated the secular Palestinian leadership. Go figure ...
    Ovadia Yosef is a very prominent Rabbi - not only among Haredim but also among many Sephardic families. Dont doubt his influence for a second.

    Unfortunately he's also quite plainly a senile racist...

    +1 for Shinui

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by curlyg
    Ovadia Yosef is a very prominent Rabbi - not only among Haredim but also among many Sephardic families. Dont doubt his influence for a second.

    Unfortunately he's also quite plainly a senile racist...
    Ok let me put it another way. In your opinion, what percentage of Israel's Jewish population follow him?
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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Ovadia Yosef doesn't run Shas. The Shas runs Ovadia Yosef.

    Yosef is respected for past fame as one of the most important Halachic authorities of the last century. But today, he is a senile old man who is being used as a figurehead by a group of manipulative and corrupt politicians. He speaks a lot of nonsense these days.


    Yosef is a national embarrassment. But so was Shinui. There was a reason why it fizzled out so fast.
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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    With all due respect Reffo, let's not compare Israel with the Palestinians.

    I mean, it's like when you can see idiots saying stuff like Jews were treated quite well in the Islamic world, I mean the Muslims treated them way better than the Nazis so why do they complain about their treatment by Muslims?

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by Reffo View Post
    Ok let me put it another way. In your opinion, what percentage of Israel's Jewish population follow him?
    Not very large.

    But I don't see why every time a problem is pointed out there is a need to draw comparison with the Palestinians or the Arab world. We know and we get it, they have radical religious nutters everywhere. Doesn't make this kind of comment any more acceptable.

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by curlyg
    But I don't see why every time a problem is pointed out there is a need to draw comparison with the Palestinians or the Arab world. We know and we get it, they have radical religious nutters everywhere. Doesn't make this kind of comment any more acceptable.
    Yes like I said we have our racists and nutters too who happen to be very much a minority. I don't see the harm of pointing that out to those who don't know and who may be fooled by the Desmond Tutus and the Jimmy Carter's of this world who choose to ignore the racism amongst Arabs and try to fool the world into believing that Israel is made up of racists.
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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by watOn
    With all due respect Reffo, let's not compare Israel with the Palestinians
    Why not? Because It might make Israel look better? It is precisely because too many good people like you don't bother to make the comparison on a daily basis, because of that, Israel is on the defensive on the political front.

    What we ought to be doing is to be rub the noses of the UN and other professional Israel bashers in it ... Perhaps then THEY might be too busy defending their 'clients' (the Arabs) and not have as much time making up lies, polemics and propaganda about Israel.
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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Then here are some comparisons:

    Israel has a fantastic education system. It's true that there are some issues with high rates of violence and declining performance in international standardized tests, not to mention low salaries for teachers and lack of appropriate training - but by comparison to schools in Egypt Israeli education is practically perfect.

    Israel is in excellent shape in terms of corruption of public officials. True, MKs seem to regularly be prosecuted for various inappropriate dealings and criminal conduct, but let's face it, they're not funnelling billions in state revenues into palaces and nice cars as in Saudi Arabia.

    Israel does not have a poverty problem. So 20% of the population live below the poverty line - big deal! In Egypt practically everyone lives in poverty!

    Etc.

    The point being, the fact that an Arab state is bad does not somehow make problems in Israel better...

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by Reffo View Post
    Yes like I said we have our racists and nutters too who happen to be very much a minority. I don't see the harm of pointing that out to those who don't know and who may be fooled by the Desmond Tutus and the Jimmy Carter's of this world who choose to ignore the racism amongst Arabs and try to fool the world into believing that Israel is made up of racists.
    Fair enough.

    Though to add to that, I think Israel's extremist populations in general are growing very fast - among Haredim, National Religious, Arabs, and even in certain secular circles. Though I'm especially concerned about the Haredim.

    In any case, though the sky is not falling, I'm reluctant to dismiss the issue. This problem is on the rise, and in the next half-century it's probably going to be the single most important issue Israel has to deal with - more important than the Israeli-Palestinian/Arab conflict even.

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Quote Originally Posted by curlyg
    The point being, the fact that an Arab state is bad does not somehow make problems in Israel better...
    Nobody is asking you to dismiss the issue. I don't like racists either, not even our racists because racists have murdered and tortured too many of OUR people in our history. And what I don't like done to me and mine, I don't like us doing to others. BUT ...

    The point being is that there is a propaganda campaign being waged against Israel in which THEY are trying to convince everyone that ALL Zionists are racists. And in that propaganda war, I want THEM to be on the defensive, NOT us ...
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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    I don't think any of us disagree with you on that point

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    Poor old bugger. I do hope that someone is looking after him and making sure he keeps clean and eats regularly. I think it's a really nasty thing to quote a senile old man who has obviously lost his senses. some people would stoop to any depths in the attempt for even half a story to publish. No morals.

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    Re: Rabbi Ovadia Yosef: Gentiles exist only to serve Jews

    He's a very important public figure. Though he probably isn't all there any more, he's still the spiritual leader of one of the most powerful political parties in the country. You can't ignore him.

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