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    Quote Originally Posted by ShyCharla View Post
    Does anyone really know how long Gods days are?
    Behold, he who keeps Yisra'el shall neither slumber nor sleep. (Ps 121:4)

    This suggests at least that God's days can be very long.
    You gotta keep yourself small. Innocuous. Be the little guy...just look at me; underestimated from day one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShyCharla View Post
    Did He really have to give an exact account of Himself to us? Maybe He just told us what we needed to know. Does anyone really know how long Gods days are?
    Why do you think god knows about Humans ? Universe is really big & there might be many more interesting things outside out galaxy (or maybe within)....And i am pretty sure if he see us....he/she will kill us.

    If I had created the Universe & saw earth ...... i would see humans as a Virus, who destroy the surroundings where ever they go..... I would kill most of the humans....:cool
    Mountain look very spectacular from distance. Prostitutes look very beautiful when they make-up. War stories are very interesting. All these three things are interesting from distance.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    I love this dialogue from Matrix...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHiX0FZcjkA

    From news article:

    Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

    Mountain look very spectacular from distance. Prostitutes look very beautiful when they make-up. War stories are very interesting. All these three things are interesting from distance.

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    It would be really unfortunate if this thread finds a resting place in the Looney Bin. I mean title and all...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanket
    If I had created the Universe & saw earth ...... i would see humans as a Virus, who destroy the surroundings where ever they go..... I would kill most of the humans....:cool
    Easy, it's called world wars but they need to reshape not just destroy. So have a little patience please.
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    ^ When ever God gets Bored, he starts World Wars & watches us ?

    Added Later -- it makes sense
    Mountain look very spectacular from distance. Prostitutes look very beautiful when they make-up. War stories are very interesting. All these three things are interesting from distance.

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    World wars don't have a start date, they evolve into it, mostly done by treaties.
    There are always wars going on where outside spiritual forces are heavily involved in. Even according to the non-spiritual Maccabi accounts.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aliyah1995 View Post
    Orthodox Judaism and evolution are NOT necessarily incompatible. I recommend reading "Genesis and the Big Bang" by Gerald Schroeder to see why:

    http://genesisbigbang.com/

    No matter what your faith (or if you have no faith), whether you are religious or not, and whether you ultimately agree with Dr. Schroeder or not, this is DEFINITELY food for thought for those wrestling with your question/s....
    Yes indeed.
    Not wanting to get into specifics, but God created the world (the heavens and earth ) in 7days, but we are also told that for Him a day is like thousand...
    The story of creation is so amazing, we can't wrap our small minds around. All we can do is believe, have faith.
    Yes, evolution and creation don't cancel each other out, if we look at evolution as an adaptation, which is actually what is taking place.
    God made is so.
    So yes, without a doubt, I believe in God.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanket View Post
    ^ When ever God gets Bored, he starts World Wars & watches us ?

    Added Later -- it makes sense
    Nope, he doesn't start wars. He gave us free will.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    Most of us eat meat. This involves killing something so that we may survive. Although in our more enlightened times, the majority of us are remote from the slaughter process we are dependants on the corpses from the shambles. Most humans also have a very strong survival instinct which could mean killing another human if our life was threatened.
    All in all this does seem to be a rather harsh existence if God created us to be a peacefull species. Even so, I feel that we are Gods creation and there is a purpose that the strong should survive and the weak should fall away. With this in mind we should remind ourselves not to let the wishy washy weak drag us down and threaten our very existence by their ultra liberal, blind pacifistic and suicidal tendencies. They are more of a threat to us than our declared enemies as they attempt to undermine our right for self defence.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    Oddly enough every morning I'm a little surprised that subway cars are not medieval style battlegrounds. Our species is incredibly capable of peace or, at least, tolerance for things that are rather intolerable. Once the match is lit, though, it quite possibly is a runaway fire. We will see that in Cairo, and we may see that elsewhere too.

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    Sankets, link to the Matrix is not really that far from the truth. The thing is we have created this matrix and employ politicians to try and keep it cobbled together and functioning. Laws are made to protect us it is said, yet in reality they are their to restrain us from our most basic and primitive urges. When the laws are unfair and predudiced against a certain sector then we see the reversion to that basic survival instinct and people rebel.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    farmboy, you don't need laws and politicians to keep it cobbled all together. The same sort of effect does work en small- in your family (as in most), I presume there is a hierarchy, there are rules and there is a process too? That does to a great degree get extrapolated to a larger context. Which only begs the question as to why... there is a circular argument, and it is usually theological. For the biologists among us, there is no "why" only "how"- we are no better than the naked mole rat cooped up in a burrow, well... maybe we don't eat our own crap and we do mostly without behavior enforcing pheromones... . The symmetry in life, does to some extent (for me) obviate the need to look for answers to unanswerable questions.

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    The family analogy doesn't really work since the adults in the family are constrained by the laws of society and their job is to mould their kids to function within these same laws. In a state of anarchy then the upbringing of the kids would be different, although the "You do as I say, not as I do" rule would still be valid.
    The point I was trying to make was that our society has become so complex that we have become institutionalised within it and could never survive without all its trappings. Someone very close to me fears its demise and is actually stashing food and items out in the Australian bush. I think he's a bit of a nutter but perhaps he's just scared of heights.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    Thats a fair point. Still a bit of chicken and egg... determining what came first the family or the overarching babying super family.

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    Re: who here believes in god?

    No one laughing at God in a hospital
    No one's laughing at God in a war
    No one's laughing at God
    When they're starving or freezing or so very poor

    No one's laughing at God
    No one's laughing at God
    No one's laughing at God
    We're all laughing with God


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