Islam is spreading though the whole of Africa

[Teacake]

That the ME is 99.99% islamic is scary enough, look at a map and imagine what is going to go down once all of africa is islamic. No doubt kofi annan is helping this along.

FOund this site, http://www.nationaudio.com/News/East...egional23.html

I think its a tiny preview to what to expect while the world isn't looking in that direction.

http://www.banadir.com/fully.htm

[IlyaFurman]

Muslims are the Majority in Africa. Basically these people are all over, from russia to china to indonesia to africa to america to asia, to the mid east to south america to north america.

[shoshannah]

Originally posted by Teacake
That the ME is 99.99% islamic is scary enough, look at a map and imagine what is going to go down once all of africa is islamic. No doubt kofi annan is helping this along.

FOund this site, http://www.nationaudio.com/News/East...egional23.html

I think its a tiny preview to what to expect while the world isn't looking in that direction.

http://www.banadir.com/fully.htm

Umm... where is the news in that? Most of Africa has been Muslim for some time already.

Frankly, I do not see Islam as the problem any more then Judaism is.

Fundamental relegion, and in this case, fundamental Islam, is what is worrys me, together with the quite from the moderate Muslims (which I know are out there- I have met some myself).

[Teacake]

Oh Shoshana, are you saying you have traveled thoughout Africa? Just because you don't seek out the information doesn't mean it doesn't exist. According to the CIA world book (?)website there are 30 conflicts happening in Africa which have been going on over the past several years, all of which are islamic. If you search out news sites that report what is going on in other parts of the world you will see that in fact there are huge islamic conflicts raging all over Africa. And that spells danger, whether you shrug it off or not.

These blood baths just don't get reported in the mainstream press, so it doesn't exist because you say so? Just because you have decided to stay inside of a in little sweet bubble of ignorance doesn't mean the danger doesn't exist. Africa is a HUGE continent and while the world and you are ignoring it, islam is in fact out of control there.

So what you have met a few nice muslims, so have I ... one has nothing to do with the other... and one doesn't cancle out the other.

[shoshannah]

Originally posted by Teacake
Oh Shoshana, are you saying you have traveled thoughout Africa? Just because you don't seek out the information doesn't mean it doesn't exist. According to the CIA world book (?)website there are 30 conflicts happening in Africa which have been going on over the past several years, all of which are islamic. If you search out news sites that report what is going on in other parts of the world you will see that in fact there are huge islamic conflicts raging all over Africa. And that spells danger, whether you shrug it off or not.

These blood baths just don't get reported in the mainstream press, so it doesn't exist because you say so? Just because you have decided to stay inside of a in little sweet bubble of ignorance doesn't mean the danger doesn't exist. Africa is a HUGE continent and while the world and you are ignoring it, islam is in fact out of control there.

You are mixing two things here:

• The internal wars in Africa
• Islam as a religion

I'll start with the latter- Islam as a religion does not have to violent, and it is not always violent. Yes, there is violent Islamic fundamentalism, and it worries me, but that is not the whole Islam, although it is the loudest at the moment (and as I wrote above, the quiet from the moderate Muslims is also worrisome). Don’t forget that both Judaism and Christianity have had their share of violent fundamentalism.

As for the wars in Africa, I am well aware of them. And yes, many of the people there are Muslim as well. However, the sources of those wars are not necessarily from Islamic roots- the modern states and borders in Africa have nothing to do with borders between the African peoples/tribes/nations, and have all to do with the way the colonizing forces divided up the continent among themselves. The fact that there are wars there should come as no surprise to anyone.

Yes, I am well aware of the high percentage of Islamic involvement in conflicts around the world, and this does raise many hard questions. Muslim fundamentalism is no doubt bad, however, saying “Islam is evil” is just taking the easy way out. Worse- that statement is just wrong. Morally, factually (as not all Islam is violent) and is non-productive, as sweeping statements and hatred are always.

[L@mplighterM]

As far as I’m concerned an Islamic Fundamentalist could melt into the crowd undistinguishable from his fellow Muslims. This has become an issue in several countries a standard passport doesn’t seem to be adequate because many of these individuals have similar features.

I’m fully aware that it wouldn’t be fair to punish someone for a crime committed by someone else. I have formed the opinion that the New Nazis will win because it leaves nations without a target. If all Islamic Fundamentalists had ears bigger than an elephants they would be identifiable but this isn’t the case.

Many African nations are in the process of destabilizing partly due too HIV and of course other factors. Demographics are changing rapidly in Africa the population is getting younger and with it new potential radical Muslims are born every day. In time it will become a gigantic nation of Islam along with the rest of the world.

The Islamic Fundamentalists are going to carve out a monolithic empire in the name of Allah stretching to the four corners of our world. In the end it will have been our laws, fairness and kindness that allowed it to happen.

It has been suggested that one shouldn’t throw in the towel yet I suggest the towel has already been thrown in. I further suggest that our leaders are not forthright when it comes to telling us that we are in grave danger from Islamic Fundamentalism and that they are powerless to stop it.

There has only been one individual that has presented the danger from Islamic Fundamentalism factually and that was Putin. I imagine that the others see the hopelessness of the situation or they are afraid perhaps a bit of both. Afraid because they have families and they know how easy it is to be felled from an assassin’s bullet.

All I can say is expect the worst in the time ahead and hope for the best.

[Teacake]

Lamp, Martin Luther King Jr. said it this way:
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

[IlyaFurman]

Originally posted by Teacake
According to the CIA world book (?)website there are 30 conflicts happening in Africa which have been going on over the past several years, all of which are islamic.

That is 100% not correct, Can I get that link to the CIA world Book that says that, I will be shocked if 10 out of the 30 are Islamically related.

[IlyaFurman]

Originally posted by shoshannah
Frankly, I do not see Islam as the problem any more then Judaism is.

Fundamental relegion, and in this case, fundamental Islam, is what is worrys me, together with the quite from the moderate Muslims (which I know are out there- I have met some myself).

Thank you, very true, I dont blame Islam ONE BIT, I blame muslims extremists for their crimes, blaming Islam takes away the blame from the people.

How stupid many people sound when they say Islam made them do this, thats , If you dont want to kill dont, Islam doesnt make you do anything, its the extremists that are going out there and doing it.

Blaming Islam is taking away blame from the people perpertating the crime.

[L@mplighterM]

I think that anyone equates Islam with Judaism has a problem distinguishing reality from fantasy. Further, whether there’s 30 or a 100 conflicts stemming from Islam in Africa make no difference as far as I’m concerned. Africa is a hotbed for Islamic Fundamentalism.

You may blame Muslim extremists for their crimes and that is rightfully so but you’re neglecting to consider the supporters.

[IlyaFurman]

Originally posted by L@mplighterM
I think that anyone equates Islam with Judaism has a problem distinguishing reality from fantasy.

L@mp I can take events or paragraphs from any holy book and do what the muslims are doing trust me.

[L@mplighterM]

Originally posted by IlyaFurman
L@mp I can take events or paragraphs from any holy book and do what the muslims are doing trust me.

I wouldn’t trust you at my backside in any conflict!